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Should be a wild four years.

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MetokurGroomedMe said:
no, seriously. i want you to provide more than just 'i think they're doing it'. because otherwise it's complete bullshit. if you're here legally, you can absolutely present papers immediately. in the current climate, if you're a legal immigrant you should have 16 copies of your paperwork, one for every room of your house, in your car, in your wallet.
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What the Men in Black movie scene with Will Smith he provided isn't enough evidence for you?
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
By grace of being an illegal we CAN yeet him at any time. The left takes the fundamentally invalid position that he somehow has the right to be here and thus we should give him a trial and all that nonsense before sending him back home, which they are doing because they know, and are counting on, this process giving them infinite amounts of time to perform lawfare and ultimately prevent the removal of these parasites from our nation. Biden let in what, 20 million? On top of the 10-20 that were already here? We do not have the time and resources to give them all trials.

And we don't have to, because giving them a trial concedes a fundamental error to the left: They do not have the right to be here, so they have nothing they can fight for in court. Illegals do not have any right to be in this country, period. The left wants this in court so they can invent, out of whole cloth, a sovereign right for any person in the world at any time to show up in American and be "owed" access to our country.
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This got me thinking about how nonsensical the idea of putting him on trial is, and how it doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny.

Put him on trial. Okay, for what? What is the accusation? That he is here illegally? How would the prosecution prove that? By producing proof that he doesn't have a right to be in the country? That's backwards. The burden of proof is on the one claiming to have the right to be in the country, and the venue for presenting that proof is not a court.

He was already determined to have no papers showing his legal residency in the country. This was determined outside of court by ICE. If he had evidence that he was here legally he would have presented it then. This is quite literally the due process for this situation. Scheduling a court date, getting him in front of a judge, and getting a lawyer present for him to shrug and say he still has no papers is a waste of everyone's time and resources. There is nothing new to discuss.

Any other supposed crimes or gang affiliation is a distraction. We aren't trying him for a crime domestically and locking him up in our prisons. That would require a trial. We just don't want him and don't need to keep him so we got rid of him.

If I get pulled over, I am asked to present my driver's license. The officer is not accusing me of not having a driver's license and he doesn't have to prove that I don't have one. I am the one who, by driving a car, is claiming that I have authorization to drive a car. The burden of proof is on me to present proof of my entitlement to drive. If I don't have a license, have never had a license, and there is no record of me having a license, I am immediately removed from my car and imprisoned in South America not going to be allowed to drive home at the very least.

I know traffic court and immigration court are different, but imagine that it's impossible for me to get a license now (same as how it's impossible for an illegal to get legitimate residency). Would I be scheduled for a court hearing and be allowed to continue driving until then? What would even be said at the trial that isn't already known? It's been proven that I don't have a license. Why does a court need to rule on this?
 
GaryGray said:
No idea who but all my normal coworkers are going on about some person they are certain is a citizen who was sent to El Salvador. Assuming that person is actually an illegal it is still only a matter of time, given the rapid speed of deportation processing, until an actual citizen will get the boot.
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I'm a naturalized US citizen. I have a paper that looks like this:

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in my bank safe deposit box and my home safe. If I were to get detained for being an immigrant, it would be a simple matter for my wife to bring over my citizenship papers.

If you are an American who was born abroad and do not have proof of citizenship/greencard ready at hand, you deserve what you get.
 
Sekirodiealot said:
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I like how nothing in the reply actually justifies the comparison to gassing illegals in death camps, it's just hysterical rambling about how illegals are kicked out and THAT MEANS CITIZENS ARE NEXT GUISE!

If the entire basis for them to be deported is them being non citizens, how the fuck is the "next step" deporting citizens? Where is the connection? How is deporting these people back to the country they came from because they aren't citizens the same as nazi death camps?
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
i was so interested in this i had to do the research. his grandparents were palestinian christians who moved to el salvador to escape persecution. interesting stuff, no wonder he's jumping at the chance to join up with the US, aside from being incredibly lucrative for el salvador.
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Minor bit of trivia: there was a huge migration of Levantine Arab Christians who fled to various countries in South America shortly before and during WW1. Probably a good call since they didn't wanna end up genocided like the Armenians. What I didn't expect was learning that migration wasn't exclusively limited to South America; apparently Central America got their own fair share of Levantine (in this case Palestinian) Christians too.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
I like how nothing in the reply actually justifies the comparison to gassing illegals in death camps, it's just hysterical rambling about how illegals are kicked out and THAT MEANS CITIZENS ARE NEXT GUISE!(...)
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I wouldn't mind whimpering faggots like that being deported, admittedly, so in that sense I guess their fears are justified? :thinking:
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
I like how nothing in the reply actually justifies the comparison to gassing illegals in death camps, it's just hysterical rambling about how illegals are kicked out and THAT MEANS CITIZENS ARE NEXT GUISE!

If the entire basis for them to be deported is them being non citizens, how the fuck is the "next step" deporting citizens? Where is the connection? How is deporting these people back to the country they came from because they aren't citizens the same as nazi death camps?
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there is no logic. there cannot be. this is purely emotionally driven, and you can tell because the moment you ask for evidence of anything like this happening, as seen in this thread, they turn into shrinking violets.
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
there is no logic. there cannot be. this is purely emotionally driven, and you can tell because the moment you ask for evidence of anything like this happening, as seen in this thread, they turn into shrinking violets.
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Regardless, if we halt mass deportations out of the fear of a mistake being made we might as well give up on the idea entirely. The current rate is laughable.
 
Dread First said:
Minor bit of trivia: there was a huge migration of Levantine Arab Christians who fled to various countries in South America shortly before and during WW1. Probably a good call since they didn't wanna end up genocided like the Armenians. What I didn't expect was learning that migration wasn't exclusively limited to South America; apparently Central America got their own fair share of Levantine (in this case Palestinian) Christians too.
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The Syrian community is so large in Argentina that the Israeli spy Eli Cohen was able to infiltrate Syria through connections in Argentina and work his way up to Deputy minister of War
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
in the current climate, if you're a legal immigrant you should have 16 copies of your paperwork, one for every room of your house, in your car, in your wallet.
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If you are a legal immigrant, you are required by law to carry proof of your immigration status on your person at all times.
 
Schpoots said:
The guy the dems are desperately trying to bring back from El Salvador is a trafficker that Bidens FBI released.

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This is a really fucking gay thing to post without linking the article

I mean the x account not you schpoots

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People are acting like presenting proof of citizenship is some herculean effort and "it's only a matter of time before mass deportations of citizens is next!!!1!" when the actual reason the gangbanging wife-beating human trafficking pile of garbage couldn't provide proof of citizenship wasn't because doing so is hard, it's because it didn't fucking exist to begin with.

He didn't have proof of citizenship to provide, which is why he was going to be deported SIX FUCKING YEARS AGO.
 
GaryGray said:
It is the government if they are doing anything in under 30 days it means they are not doing due diligence.
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He had months of process, and was given a Final Removal Order by a judge Five years ago.

This FRO was restricted, based on the fact a gang rival to his own MS-13, greenlit him as KOS, and was actively hunting for him. The only restriction was that he couldn't be sent to El Salvador, the government had the right to yeet his ass anywhere else, at any time. The only error, was in not getting a judge to accept that in 2025 gangs don't exist in El Salvador anymore.

It's like the safest nation in Latin America now. 5 years ago it had the per-capita highest murder rate in the world, by far.

Now you know more than 97% of Americans, and should reflect on the uselessness of news media.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
BREAKING: If Harvard does not fully comply with all reporting requirements to DHS, including providing detailed records of foreign students’ misconduct on campus, Harvard will no longer be able to enroll foreign students.
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Trump and his ilk did not are when these students were anti White or anti America

they bend over backwards to protect Jews
 
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