US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Nice to see John badman has returned tell me you getting good grades how you doing in math and science, you know you really shouldnt spend all your time in the internet , you gotta big test tomorrow and you need to past that kiddo.

 

[behindyourightnow]

It is absolutely 100% this.

The featured tariffs thread is literally* both viewpoints talking past each other.

A substantial number of Europeans/Center Left/Center Right do not understand using threats as leverage in a negotiation.

They may understand threats, but they don’t understand how or why they would be used.

Yeah that's a good point. Speaking generally, the "masculine" way of doing things involves (implicit or explicit) threats of violence or active harm, while the "feminine" way involves threats of social exclusion. If you've only ever experienced the feminine way, you might not grasp that violence or active coercion can come into play.

Note: I don't think being afraid of social exclusion is as petty as it seems. For most of human history being exiled from a group was so dangerous that it makes sense that it still evokes existential fear. Particularly for people who are more vulnerable away from a group, like women. In the past if your hunter-gatherer tribe decided they didn't like your attitude and kicked you out, you wouldn't just get hurt feelings, you'd starve or get kidnapped by another tribe or eaten by a dire wolf. A real one!

But the problem is that for some people, they're so far away societally from violence and other types of direct coercion that now, exclusion has become the only perceived threat. They don't understand the need for anything but trying to be nice and getting along at all costs.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Those hacking expos used to hack voting machines every year until 2021 where they pretty much killed off the hacking scene for DEI activism (everybody knows why)

 

[Not Really Here]

Of saying that voting machines can be hacked? Like… No fucking shit?

You ever hear of the DEFCON convention?

 

[Barleys]

Have you ever considered once in your life not thinking in absolutism? Maybe read some works over relativism?

How's your portfolio looking man
Edit: Lmao that reaction hahahahaha

 

[John Badman]

You ever hear of the DEFCON convention?
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Would you care to tell me how long we’ve known this? Oh shit man, it’s been talked about at DEFCON for like… 15 years. That’s like announcing to the world the earth is actually spherical and expecting an applause. It’s not round by the way, it’s ovoid. And nobody hacked your stupid machines lol.

 

[JayseeDenton]

We’ve heard from Australia that they were approached by China to betray us

I believe they were betting very hard on this, wumaos were pushings it VERY hard on 4chan for a few weeks. One of the most autistic approaches I saw used some lesbian manga comic.

Spoiler: cringe

i can only find two of the threads but they those images were everywhere for a while

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/502002921/#502002921

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/502736003/#502736003

 

[MaduroHunter]

CNN is actually a pretty centrist or even right leaning organization

Was he european? by their logic our democrats are right wing there so it'd make sense

 

[Not Really Here]

Would you care to tell me how long we’ve known this? That’s like announcing to the world the earth is actually round and expecting an applause

That DEFCON was in 2018.

It’s not round by the way, it’s egg shaped.

Oblate spheroid.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

/pol/'s biggest negative is, was, and always will be that it has absolutely no sense of humor.

At one time they had humor, but that was about a decade ago before the shills drowned it out.

 

[One Angry Computer]

You ever hear of the DEFCON convention?
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I always knew that voting electronically was utterly retarded, for their inevitable tampering is a genuine threat to the democratic process. Perhaps all elections were rigged since their introduction, so there's only one thing I have to say about this:

RETVRN TO PEN AND PAPER

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Vietnam caved almost immediately, and afaik, it's first in/first out from what I've understood.

I’m with you

That was less about "America's our pal" and more of "We're just spreading our trade deals out for our own protection". At least that's how I interpreted Marles's statement. Certainly didn't sound like a "we got your back USA". However, if any country was likely to be so by default, it'd be the 'roo fuckers.

I tend to think five eyes nations have a deeper relationship than we see on TV, or else five eyes is bullshit and should be cancelled.. but Australia in particular has been one of the main reasons we’re so compelled to try to contain China. In ww2 they were under serious threat from Japan, and they’d be under serious threat if China invaded Taiwan.

Exactly. We really don't know shit yet. Some of these countries could be in talks with China as well. Hell, I'd think they were idiots if they weren't because you gotta shop around.

Some overtures are probably floated, but xi and trump both want to wait and see how the pressure builds.

Furthermore... we're kinda fucked in the sense that China can just hold out for 3 years until the next election. Cozy up with Russia and hunker down in societal misery.

Well, the PLA isn’t actually the most hardcore loyal force on earth. They’re actually pretty whiny, from what I’ve seen, which is some Chinese social media posts from mercenaries who went to Ukraine as Russian mercenaries, and the hilarious disaster that was the PLA UN peacekeepers in Africa that ran away from some gangs

 

[Barleys]

And nobody hacked your stupid machines lol.

And nobodies to blame for your poor investment strategies than yourself.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

And nobodies to blame for your poor investment strategies than yourself.

Except he's saying "its old news that they can be hacked!" but then at the same time "nobody hacked your stupid machines"
Who is buying this?
The mechanism to gain access to power and money in our country is hackable, but no one would?

 

[John Badman]

Except he's saying "its old news that they can be hacked!" but then at the same time "nobody hacked your stupid machines"
Who is buying this?
The mechanism to gain access to power and money in our country is hackable, but no one would?

Have you considered not thinking in absolutes? Could you even explain the vector they used? Aww geez dood the whole power grid is owned by fucking China of all people. Why don’t you give a shit about that instead? Do you enjoy bleached drinking water?

 

[One Angry Computer]

Well, the PLA isn’t actually the most hardcore loyal force on earth. They’re actually pretty whiny, from what I’ve seen, which is some Chinese social media posts from mercenaries who went to Ukraine as Russian mercenaries, and the hilarious disaster that was the PLA UN peacekeepers in Africa that ran away from some gangs

How one can forget that NK soldiers fell to gooning once they got a whiff of the true internet, too? Sinic soldiers are a joke, if they ever have to fight they'll just become addicted to anime titties... or worse.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I'm just glad you're OK @John Badman , you had me worried.

 

[Barleys]

Have you considered not thinking in absolutes? Could you even explain the vector they used? Aww geez dood the whole power grid is owned by fucking China of all people. Why don’t you give a shit about that instead? Do you enjoy bleached drinking water?

Do you even know what's the number 1 most caused reason for something getting hacked.

 

[John Badman]

Do you even know what's the number 1 most caused reason for something getting hacked.

Because someone left a port open or allowed physical access to a machine.

Florida’s water supply was hacked through Team Viewer.

Could you now please tell me how you also need physical access to the voting machines as they’re air gapped.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Imagine being so stupid that you can be proven wrong in a five second google search

? You mean me or the teacher? I just went on a deep dive on this years ago due to meeting a retard with brain damage and playing Bloodborne.