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Should be a wild four years.

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This isn’t good. While we don’t know exactly how many illegal aliens pay taxes for certain, the ones who were looking to legalize their status are motivated to obtain tax ID numbers and pay because the government considers evidence of tax filings when weighing their cases. This is not a rare situation; it is more or less expected of illegals who submit applications to resolve their status that they have a few years of tax returns. Going forward, illegal aliens will be disincentivized to file taxes. Depending how this information is used, it effectively punishes the illegal aliens who did the right thing and rewards those who didn’t.

This exchange of information alone will not motivate illegal aliens to leave, so people who would otherwise be paying taxes while using government services will continue to use them but will stop paying into them.
I think you fail to understand that when illegal immigrants are paying taxes, they're often committing tax fraud, using someone else's numbers to file in their name. If the person who's numbers were used illegally is still alive, that person has to deal with the IRS and their local tax authorities over the fraudulent filings, which can become a Kafkaesque nightmare in the blink of an eye.

There is no doubt in my mind that the IRS is sitting on a treasure trove of hard evidence that can be used to positively identify, round up, and deport a number of illegal immigrants.
 
Wages are not a good excuse for why manufacturing isnt brought back. It is a reason for moving manufacturing but it is not the reason. A 100% tariff would cost a company nearly 5 times as much to ship cars than to just pay American employees 20 bucks an hour. Tariffs are way more of a reason for why manufacturing is moved than wages are.
Also, if there's ever going to be lobbying pressure to roll back the EPA, OSHA, etc, then let it come from companies who are actually incentivized to build here now. It was never gonna happen when they could just go overseas and arbitrage around all our regulations. If anything they preferred us being burdened with regulations as it prevented competition for them.
 
I'm fairly confident this is exactly the climate Trump is trying to force.
I find that interesting considering Rubio was talking about a "multi-polar" global order where the US isn't the top dog anymore and has to work in concert with Russia and China. It seemed like there was room for China to sit at the table and be part of things if they were willing to be there.
Interesting choice, Chyna, ret the brood retting blegin:

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He forgot the fourth option: release another plague "accidentally".
 
100% tariffs still won't be enough to compensate for the self-imposed labor and environmental regulatory burden in the US. There's no hope of re-shoring any manufacturing back in the US without reforming environment/labor law and good luck with that noise. It's going to take a lot more than an EO to abolish the EPA, OSHA and the minimum wage.
The thing is I distinctly remember ... Obama was it? Having the EPA just elect not to enforce certain things cause it would have made King Nigger's admin look bad. So we already selectively enforce EPA standards, mostly to help white liberals enforce NIMBY and punish red states. EPA / OSHA reforming should be on the books...
 
Tbh.. Americans could probably use the lesson in piece rate focus and productivity. I say bring on the sweat shops.

 
This isn’t good. While we don’t know exactly how many illegal aliens pay taxes for certain, the ones who were looking to legalize their status are motivated to obtain tax ID numbers and pay because the government considers evidence of tax filings when weighing their cases. This is not a rare situation; it is more or less expected of illegals who submit applications to resolve their status that they have a few years of tax returns. Going forward, illegal aliens will be disincentivized to file taxes. Depending how this information is used, it effectively punishes the illegal aliens who did the right thing and rewards those who didn’t.

This exchange of information alone will not motivate illegal aliens to leave, so people who would otherwise be paying taxes while using government services will continue to use them but will stop paying into them.
If businesses hire these fucks legally, they'd have to report it to IRS and they do.

Now, they can't hire them without putting them on spotline.

AMERICANS, ONCE AGAIN, WINS.
 
Tbh.. Americans could probably use the lesson in piece rate focus and productivity. I say bring on the sweat shops.

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So we don't want to work real jobs because it looks yucky, but we also use AI for laptop work like creating this video, so we won't be hiring for that either. So basically we just don't work anymore. We're all done working. Apparently we already achieved luxury communism, I hadn't realized, someone must have been sending my free shit to the wrong address.
 
I genuinely think if it came to an actual war, china would win if it became a war of attrition. The US population I am convinced doesn’t have the stomach for the type of war that we have seen in Ukraine, and the US equipment while advanced, costs way too goddamn much to be used in a prolonged engagement. China at least has the ability to send endless meat to the grinder
 
Wages are not a good excuse for why manufacturing isnt brought back. It is a reason for moving manufacturing but it is not the reason. A 100% tariff would cost a company nearly 5 times as much to ship cars than to just pay American employees 20 bucks an hour. Tariffs are way more of a reason for why manufacturing is moved than wages are.
Input costs are the sole reason manufacturing was offshored to begin with. Labor almost always being the highest input cost.

I wish I could get paid to be a ccp bitch to bad I have dignity
Recognizing reality doesn't make someone a "CCP bitch", putting your fingers in your ears and burying your head in the sand does.
 
I genuinely think if it came to an actual war, china would win if it became a war of attrition. The US population I am convinced doesn’t have the stomach for the type of war that we have seen in Ukraine, and the US equipment while advanced, costs way too goddamn much to be used in a prolonged engagement. China at least has the ability to send endless meat to the grinder

Nah, we will throw the libtards first and then our best troops.
 
I genuinely think if it came to an actual war, china would win if it became a war of attrition. The US population I am convinced doesn’t have the stomach for the type of war that we have seen in Ukraine, and the US equipment while advanced, costs way too goddamn much to be used in a prolonged engagement. China at least has the ability to send endless meat to the grinder
I don't know anything about who's better positioned for a fight really, but both the US and China have enough nukes each that I doubt either one actually wants the other one to lose a huge war and spazz out. Everyone would rather stay apart and flex at the other guy and get an economic-cultural victory. I think any war that did break out would have to be geographically limited e.g. strictly over and on Taiwan so that nobody ever felt pressured to use the red button.
 
I don't know anything about who's better positioned for a fight really, but both the US and China have enough nukes each that I doubt either one actually wants the other one to lose a huge war and spazz out. Everyone would rather stay apart and flex at the other guy and get an economic-cultural victory. I think any war that did break out would have to be geographically limited e.g. strictly over and on Taiwan so that nobody ever felt pressured to use the red button.
Yes, but it would be fucking awful for whoever got sent there, if it’s anything like the Ukraine war
 
I genuinely think if it came to an actual war, china would win if it became a war of attrition. The US population I am convinced doesn’t have the stomach for the type of war that we have seen in Ukraine, and the US equipment while advanced, costs way too goddamn much to be used in a prolonged engagement. China at least has the ability to send endless meat to the grinder
There isn't a bin sticker large enough for you.
 
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