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Hello! I have a weird(?) question about bible translations. Please bear with me because I wasn't raised religious.
I was going through old books in the house recently, and came across two bibles that claim to be catholic. My agnostic parents (both raised catholic) held on to them because of family obligations. But they both have differing translations. The older looking one says King James Version and the other one is NIV. Which one is closer to the ones Catholics use? Does it even matter in the end?
I was going through old books in the house recently, and came across two bibles that claim to be catholic. My agnostic parents (both raised catholic) held on to them because of family obligations. But they both have differing translations. The older looking one says King James Version and the other one is NIV. Which one is closer to the ones Catholics use? Does it even matter in the end?
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Both aren't Catholic translations per say, but if you want a Catholic Bible the USCCB has a list of approved translations.
My Bible is the New American Bible Revised Edition which is the standard bible for most of the English-speaking world. There's also the Douay Rheims translation which is pretty good but it's a Early Modern English translation so I wouldn't recommend it for first timers. It doesn't matter much but one of the major differences Catholic Bibles and Protestant Bible is the Deuterocanonical books that the Protestant versions lack.
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the NIV version is the catholic version, at least that is what ive always been taught. which is hilarious, when prots go off about how catholics have their "own bible", we dont.
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It is because the world Crawford wants is essentially Catholic, shaped not by the presumption of human depravity and vice—which is the Protestant form—but by the revelation that, through grace, all of humanity really is capable of virtue. This is the unshakeable optimism guarded by the Catholic Church: Christ frees us from the law and its bonds, because, in becoming one with Christ in His Church, man is restored in his capacity as a lawmaker. Freed from sin, he can freely and creatively choose the good. As a member of the Church, which is a real, physical Body, he does not simply wait for a spiritual, heavenly future in which he will be made virtuous, but rather, he receives the grace—in the real, physical sacraments of the Church—that makes it possible for him to be an excellent person, and so an excellent driver.
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the Catholic faith that actually allows for social self-governance, precisely because it affirms us as a people most fundamentally made for each other, for unity in “one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism.” If we can be trusted with anything, it is to govern ourselves according to this most fundamental ground of our nature
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the Catholic faith that actually allows for social self-governance, precisely because it affirms us as a people most fundamentally made for each other, for unity in “one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism.” If we can be trusted with anything, it is to govern ourselves according to this most fundamental ground of our nature
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There’s a Byzantine Catholic pretty close from my house that I’ve never gone to before, I’ll probably go there for mass after Lent is Over, is their anything I should know before going? I know their in communion with Rome but I still want to be respectful to their Traditions/customs
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The Greek immigrants over there will probably give you the weird eye either way. IMO less libtard oriented Catholics are generally better serving the Church in their local parishes and transforming them bit by bit.
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Adding to what others have already said - the Knox translation was primed to be the go-to modern English bible in the Catholic Church before the faggots took over in the 60's. It's basically a retranslation of the Douay Rheims bible. Very readable. I believe Baronius Press still publishes it.
As to whether it matters, just look up the Scofield bible sometime. There are strong and weak translations out there, and then there are actively pernicious ones.
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I’m more so curious than anything else. I re-affirm that the Novus Ordo is a true and beautiful formation of the mass, God exists in every rite within the umbrella of the Church no matter the culture or language and I find that very beautiful and would like to fully appreciate it.
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The KJV is definitely not Catholic, I'm not sure why any Bible in that translation would be labeled as such. The NIV is not traditionally Catholic either.
I am a big fan of the Douay-Rheims because I like the old prose, but for something a bit more updated I go for the Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition, or RSVSCE. Take note that this is not the New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition, or NRSV-CE. The NRSV in general has "inclusive" stylistic choices I do not like.
This article might explain more for you: https://www.catholic.com/tract/bible-translations-guide
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I know this is the catholic thread and I'm protestant, but I can help you on this one.
KJV is Anglican/Presbyterian, and the NIV is a more modern translation from the mid 20th century to try and remove the thee's and thou's for the purpose of bringing the bible in a more readable modern english, and is used by the a few of the more mainline protestant denominations, like the methodist and some branches of Presbyterians.
Neither are Roman Catholic, and I would guess your family had either Methodists or Presbyterians in at some point. For a list of wahts more in line with the RC church, go with Preachers list.
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One thing to know about Byzantine Catholics is how the Eucharist is received. While the Roman Catholic churches either give the Body via placing it on the tongue or in the hands of the recipient as an unleavened wafer with the Blood being received with the recipient taking a sip from the chalice, the Byzantines use a leavened bread as the host dipped in wine and distributed via a spoon into the mouth. I actually went to a Byzantine mass with my mother when my family went up to Virginia a few years ago. It was a very nice experience.
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I definitely think that shit like the Schofield Bible has been EXTREMELY fucking harmful to both the Church and Christianity as a whole, with the Jew worship genuinely being insane, especially from the Boomers and Gen Xers.
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I’ve watched a couple of his videos and debates and he seems to be pretty knowledgeable but present pretty poor arguments sometimes. Isn’t he also a groyper?
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Was bound to happen.
From what I recall, he's a convert. He's one of those autisticly "giften" bookworms who process a lot of info. But one, he's a convert, which means it takes your whole world view to get adjusted to a new reality, which doesn't always work out, se Taylor Marshal. And two, he's young and autistic, and evidently an internet meme enjoyer, which makes him cringe and unhinged.
A while back he went after Jimmy Akin and apparently even had a good argument. But he went about it like a young autistic memeboi would and Jimmy made a short reply that he's a good kid, but a kid nonetheless. Some say Jimmy should have went to some lengths and debate the boy, but I think Jimmy did the wise thing, saw he was dealing with a kid, told him as much and walked away without causing any needless heat.
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He's in the closet about it because optics (despite it being painfully obvious).
Most people around are quick to realize he's the kind of person nothing good can come out of associating with, which doesn't preclude the extreme internet exposure antics from being extremely funny. I think the lack of wisdom and the pathetic nerd disposition combine with unparalleled access to Church documents to make for quite the clown show, and him and his inner circle have made this routine of seething over random Catholic Answers stuff for quite a while now.
Definitely not looking forward to watching the damage these niche micro-celebrities cause to young people though, I hope people like Trent Horn and Akin get around mentoring younger guys, preferably without the emotional imbalances and spastic behavior of these 20 something Twitter e-theologians.
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I think the main issue with a lot of these people is that they try to meet the dominant evangelical narrative of fire and brimstone and only stand their theology on purely reactionary matters to the current sociological and political matters, instead of the eternal promise of God to his people. The reason why I personally stay away from people who consider themselves to be traditionalists is because I believe they are one of the biggest perpetrators of abusing scripture, tradition, and the writings of saints. They are not charitable in their apologetics and thus fail to actually reach people who do not share their same world view.
You can’t just purity spiral your way to Jesus, you have to be charitable to some degree as well. Apologetics isn’t just about dunking on others for poorer understanding of theology, it’s opening up new understandings of God’s Kingdom to those who haven’t thought about it in such a way before, to quote Fulton Sheen, most people don’t hate the church for what it is, they hate what think the church is.
If God can have mercy on a retard like me, that mercy can also be extended to others