US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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America has a 5% unemployment rate. Most of which is kids, retired people and the rest is druggie criminals you don't want to be around. Who is going to work in these factories Trump wants to build ? The birth rate is low so it's not like we have more factory workers coming down the pipes.
 
Buck Broken Chimp said:
America has a 5% unemployment rate. Most of which is kids, retired people and the rest is druggie criminals you don't want to be around. Who is going to work in these factories Trump wants to build ? The birth rate is low so it's not like we have more factory workers coming down the pipes.
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Are you fucking retarded.

Most of the factories are going to be robotic. Blue collar jobs are going to be maintaining and building engineering culture & skill complex within the economy.

America needs industrial resurgence and that means destroying third world industry.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Are you fucking retarded.

Most of the factories are going to be robotic. Blue collar jobs are going to be maintaining and building engineering culture & skill complex within the economy.

America needs industrial resurgence and that means destroying third world industry.
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If that is the case then what happened to the promise that tons of high paying factory jobs would be so abundant it would make up for the tariff price increases ?

Right now people want remote work, gen Z especially prefers a flexible schedule and sees 9/5 jobs as a scam. Factory jobs for reasons so obvious I shouldn't have to explain can not be remote and depend on consistent waged labor.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
I have about 1-2k in equity and about 60k in money market.

Let the world burn.
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Like wild fires, let it burn for a little while and then fire off 60K worth of seeds into fertile soil. All the while enjoying the marginal relief of clean soil as natural charcoal sops up the nasty molecules Absentee CEOs and Delusional/American malicious board of directors seethe. I agree, let the world burn, but farmers, make sure you sow your seeds before the foreign investors do.

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Seriously, the market is setting up to potentially be the largest exchange of wealth in recent history. With the very slim chance that DOGE actually does return some amount of cash to the American tax payers. Use the market crash to soften people on some form of "relief" payments, get that passed, people have money. Some will stimulate the economy by spending, others will pay off debts, some will do a mix of both but also invest the rest. I'd wager in a few years, if this did happen, the folks who invested and never touched the account again will have doubled their account perhaps even more. Just my ramblin' thoughts.
 
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Only retards are selling off. Always hold. If the market crashes enough that holding isn't a viable strategy, then money is worthless anyway and you better have bullets.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Are you fucking retarded.

Most of the factories are going to be robotic. Blue collar jobs are going to be maintaining and building engineering culture & skill complex within the economy.

America needs industrial resurgence and that means destroying third world industry.
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Yes, he is a retarded pedophile, put him on ignore and move on - don't take the weak bait.
 
Buck Broken Chimp said:
America has a 5% unemployment rate. Most of which is kids, retired people and the rest is druggie criminals you don't want to be around. Who is going to work in these factories Trump wants to build ? The birth rate is low so it's not like we have more factory workers coming down the pipes.
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I'm sure 30-40 year old john doe who works at walmart for minimum wage absolutely loves his job and wouldn't move to a factory for more money.
 
I know a lot of this site is "lol wut go sportsball yay!" but I can't be the only person who keeps reading Tony Seruga as Tony Siragusa and imagine a fat guy going through cel phone tracking data of protesters with a pile of ribs in front of him.

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Barleys said:
I'm sure 30-40 year old john doe who works at walmart for minimum wage absolutely loves his job and wouldn't move to a factory for more money.
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Imagine if we automate Walmart jobs, you get to do awesome manufacturing, accompanied by no illegals competing for that said job and your wage goes up.

SNAP usages will drop half....maybe completely. Walmart jobs are also subsidizef by SNAP.

The whole system is a fucking scam to destroy American workers and bailout managerial class who contribute nothing and make nothing, sustained by eternal money printing.
 
Buck Broken Chimp said:
If that is the case then what happened to the promise that tons of high paying factory jobs would be so abundant it would make up for the tariff price increases ?

Right now people want remote work, gen Z especially prefers a flexible schedule and sees 9/5 jobs as a scam. Factory jobs for reasons so obvious I shouldn't have to explain can not be remote and depend on consistent waged labor.
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Right? Why didn't those factory jobs magically appear? Why no factories already built? Why no magical wonderful world of fancy where factories grow on trees?
 
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When I was younger, I stayed away from the markets in times like this, having taken to heart the advice to never attempt to catch a falling knife.

Afterwards, every time I did the math, I found that had I entered the market at its peak before the crash, kept buying, and rode it all the way down, and then all the way back up to the current day, buying all the way I would have made a killing.

I'm feeling mighty tempted to try to catch this falling knife.
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I echo that. This is the first time in ages that I've been in a cash position right as a downtrend has happened and I'm really fighting the urge to start buying in again.

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This was the song that played when the Narn beat Lord Refa's ass to death after his role in the Narn genocide was uncovered, wasn't it?

Guess it's time for my annual rewatch of the whole series. Good stuff, but Valen help me when I get to the dreadfully dull "Byron's telepaths" plotline in Season 5.
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It’s been years since I saw that. I’d have sworn the song was “Sinnerman”, from the end of the Thomas Crowne Affair remake (rare remake that’s better than the original).

My favorite little musical moment of the show was Kosh bringing Sheridan to the secret alien monks.
 
Look--an Alien! said:
Right? Why didn't those factory jobs magically appear? Why no factories already built? Why no magical wonderful world of fancy where factories grow on trees?
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There is no guarantee the factories will come. No one is expecting them to be built overnight what we are skeptical of is if they will be built at all. Trump is gambling so much on the chance of companies opening factories and hoping they succeed.
 
Buck Broken Chimp said:
America has a 5% unemployment rate. Most of which is kids, retired people and the rest is druggie criminals you don't want to be around. Who is going to work in these factories Trump wants to build ? The birth rate is low so it's not like we have more factory workers coming down the pipes.
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Thats the thing the confounds me, who really wants to work in factories with long hours in probably shitty wages unless they literally have no other choice?, do we need to accept more immigrants to make up for this?

In much of the developed world, there's this cultural expectation from society that landing a comfy white collar job means you're successful, to the point that we now have a shortage of blue-collar jobs, even despite having decent or sometimes better salaries than some white-collar professions, its not like you'll be shunned, but there's definitely this undertone people will see you as "lower", "less intelligent", and not as deserving of the same level of respect if you decided on a more physically-laborious career, which is in my opinion is bullshit and we would be better off if we got rid of the stigma.

How can we undo this norm that has developed in the decades following de-industrialization, because this is probably one the biggest hurdles against bringing manufacturing back home?
 
BigJoey41X said:
Thats the thing the confounds me, who really wants to work in factories with long hours in probably shitty wages unless they literally have no other choice?, do we need to accept more immigrants to make up for this?

In much of the developed world, there's this cultural expectation from society that landing a comfy white collar job means you're successful, to the point that we now have a shortage of blue-collar jobs, even despite having decent or sometimes better salaries than some white-collar professions, its not like you'll be shunned, but there's definitely this undertone people will see you as "lower", "less intelligent", and not as deserving of the same level of respect if you decided on a more physically-laborious career, which is in my opinion is bullshit and we would be better off if we got rid of the stigma.

How can we undo this norm that has developed in the decades following de-industrialization, because this is probably one the biggest hurdles against bringing manufacturing back home?
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Deindustrialization is literally an existential crisis.

Everything you consume has industrial components. From steel to aluminium, every building, every houses and every fabric of our security and prosperity hinges on industries.

You lose every single leverage against the country that produces the said industry. Mainly china. If you have no industry.

They can jack up the prices however they want. They can withhold the product however they want.

Trump is frontrunning the collapsing industry and replacing them with modern factories designed and maintained by blue collar workers with trades like robotic maintenance.

This accompanied by lowest illegal migration in record history, you are building yourself a new era of golden age for American workers.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Canada annexation is on the menu right?
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I think it is but it's not that high on the to-do list. Plus Trump wants to see how the election plays out first and will try to avoid meddling too much. The Liberal platform is pretty much hating Trump so we'll have to see how that resonates with the people, especially if Trump makes a move that forces Canada to accept that they would implode without America.
 
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