US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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It's all but guaranteed that the stock markets will hit an all time high by the end of this year.

Drops like this are temporary minor stuff. This only matters to people who are trying to time the market.
Short sell for now. I have no idea why boomers are freaking out when they can just short the same stocks they had money in for a couple months, then buy back in.
 
This only matters to people who are trying to time the market
Well it's partly day traders, who can always be ignored, but it's also boomers who are actually retiring now and realizing the stonk number affects the income they'll be drawing for the next twenty years. They also need to be ignored though because the country just can't keep going on the way it was forever.
 
I like to tell Europeans that if you start driving on one coast, east or west, and start driving for 8 hours each day, it will take you at least 7 days to reach the opposite side of the country. They usually shut up for a little while because they still can't imagine it.
really puts into context how insane the pony express was
 
The Boomers by definition were born directly after WWII. It was a time when the economy was booming as well, and people were free of the shackles of war and sick to death from the austerity of the great depression and wartime rationing. The Greatest Generation was ready to party down and celebrate their great victory, so they spoiled their kids to death, giving them all the things THEY didn't have growing up (to be fair, giving your kids a better childhood than YOU had is a huge part of the American Dream).

It is hard for us to grasp now but postwar America was the outright envy of the world for a reason. Imagine being young in the 1960s and buying a near beachfront property in beautiful Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, old town San Francisco, Anaheim, or anywhere else in California with the wages from your dumbass job. Something that required no real effort and you were able to dick off a lot. You really just had to exist and you could make it. If you had a university degree of any kind? Ho-lee-shit son. Streets might as well of been paved with gold. They truly never had to to grow up. This is an accurate way to put it. They did discard centuries worth of traditions and things that worked in just a few decades.

I had great parents. But as I get older I recognize they were retarded in a lot of ways. They were impulsive, poor at financial planning, and generally took the easy way on most things. Nonetheless they got by well enough. We weren't dirt poor or anything but they both dropped out of college because it wasn't fun enough. All to pursue more fun things instead and somehow make money on it. Not a lot but enough to be firmly middle class. They were saved later in life because when their parents passed away they got caught holding the bag of their extremely austere parents who held on to a lot of money. Boy howdy did they spend that quickly too.

Mind you I don't really care about that I am not salty about it because I am good with money on my own. But contrasting this to my generation or my kid's generation is incredible. The amount of headwinds we have to achieve the same thing is unbelievable.
 
My sisters and I contemplate this all the time. We attribute it to lead poisoning.
This is just like Rome! Romans used lead pipes for their plumbing, which gave lead poisoning to everyone who could afford to have water piped into their homes (a shrinking upper section of the population as the Empire gradually rotted and disintegrated)
 
If you had a university degree of any kind? Ho-lee-shit son. Streets might as well of been paved with gold.
This is also why they're so obsessed with forcing their kids/grandkids to get college degrees. They're forever locked in the mindset that a degree is a Win at Life button, not realizing how oversaturated the market is with dipshits who managed to BS their way through a PhD.
I should know, as I failed a class once since my college hired the cheapest PhD they could find to teach my coding class, and literally no one could understand the Indian fuck through his accent and broken English.
 
Yeah a 1970s MBA was a ticket to corporate executive making the big bucks. All without having to actually start a business or anything. An MBA means nothing to me now but it does help with understanding how to budget well in an organization. Which matters a lot at the director level.
 
I think the clue is in the name. Boomers were a truly massive generation, nearly double the size of the silent generation. How do you parent a child generation that's so much larger than your own? They will vote for whatever they want and drown you out in the flood. As soon as they came of age they started taking control of society with massive protests and civil unrest, and they never really gave it back until now when they are beginning to retire and die.

Boomers took control in the 80s and 90s.

They were also pretty pissed off about Viet Nam

Boomers had the highest support for Vietnam of any age group of the time. The lowest support was WWII vets. 'Nam was mostly fought by Silents. There's overlap, of course. Early Boomers (born 1946-1952) could go. Boomers were, however, mostly in high school during the turbulent 60s.

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It was a combination of suck and rule for their kids (Generation X)

Gen X are mostly the kids of the Silent Generation. Millennials are mostly the children of the Boomers. That's why Millennials (73 million) outnumber Gen X (65 million), not that there isn't overlap, plenty of late Gen Xers have early Boomer parents.

What mainly happened with Boomers is they were spoiled by their parents and grew up during mostly rapidly rising prosperity. The 70s didn't hit them too hard because they were either in college or just starting out, either way too young to have any savings to inflate away. They hit their stride in the boom years of the 80s and 90s. They didn't inherit a lot because their parents were the first generation to have Medicare and Medicaid, which most people do not realize claim all of your savings when you die if you go into a nursing home and can't afford to pay for it yourself.

They don't understand why any generation after them seems to be having a hard time, because to them, 1981-2005 is just how things are.
 
I like to tell Europeans that if you start driving on one coast, east or west, and start driving for 8 hours each day, it will take you at least 7 days to reach the opposite side of the country. They usually shut up for a little while because they still can't imagine it.

My boss was a nice lady in Paris (big company), but not from France. She said, "At least you live in the same country as your parents and can visit them any time you want." I said "The drive from where I live to my home town is the same as the drive from Paris to Minsk." She was a little stunned.
 
I got bad news brother (sorry double post)

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How in the fuck did Boomers become more selfish than retarded inbred nobility?
They were always selfish. They grew up in prosperity in the 50s and 60s. They felt they were changing the world when they rebelled against culture and protested in the late 60s. Then they grew up, got jobs, liked money and became the "Me Generation" doing party drugs and discoing in the 70s. Then they became the "Greed Is Good" moneyloving rich in the 80s, ignoring their latchkey Gen Xer kids.

That's what I saw looking at their history and growing up with my friends. My parents are both "one of the good ones" because they didn't fit that stereotype and aren't committed to burning their wealth before they die, but I see a lot of that in others.
 
You can think that, but they actually became a critical voting and marketing demo in the 60s when they hit adulthood.

The very first boomers didn't turn 21 until 1967. Then, as now, people in their early 20s were not a significant voting bloc. Voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971, which added more Boomers to the voter rolls, but they weren't a large cohort of voters until all the 50s kids were voting, which took until 1978.

Also, a generation doesn't have real power until they have money, and you just don't have much money until you're about 40, maybe mid to late 30s if you're lucky. The first Boomers turned 40 in 1986, and the last Boomers turned 40 in the 2000s, depending on where you say the cutoff is. So that makes the period of maximum boomer cultural influence the 80s and 90s. Most people just think Silents are Boomers, or they think the 60s radicals were Boomers because their Boomer parents loved their music as teenagers. David Lee Roth is a Boomer. David Crosby is a Silent.

The median Boomer was born in 1955. He was 8 years old when Kennedy was shot and 14 when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, same year as Woodstock. He turn 18 years old the year Nixon ended the Vietnam war in 1973. He graduated college in 1977. He probably had his first kid in 1980, at the age of 25. In 1995, at age 40, he made it to middle management in a large company, divorced his wife, and remarried someone 10 years younger. In 2003, he was 48 and a little concerned about his son coming home safely from Iraq. The '08 crash freaked him out because, at age 53, retirement was looming. He then finally did retire in 2020.

You essentially have your entire concept of Boomers shifted backward by about 10-15 years and are mostly thinking of Silents.
 
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Yes I expect the Chigger creatures that shut down their whole country because of a coof and royally fucked the world supply chains to crack under the smallest pressure.
its a country that quarantined the infected by welding their bug pod doors shut. I'm sure they can endure a starving mass by blaming america.
 
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