💬 Off-Topic Things Troons Have Ruined

[Ayana Otonashi]

everything if you actively look

 

[clara red bottoms]

Women's weight lifting. The  bar for records is too high now.

 

[Dr Cruel]

I'm almost afraid to ask how..

I think we all know how.

 

[Jacques1194]

TRAs have ruined the South Park episode "Marjorine". For those who don't know, this is the episode where the boys fake Butters death and have him pretend to be a girl to infiltrate the girls slumber party to get a "future telling device" (it was a cootie catcher). Even though at the end of the episode Butters was clearly done with the whole thing and didn't want to be a girl, TRAs have turned "Marjorine" into a trans icon and I swear to god that almost every art of the female 4th grade girls has to put "her" into it to add trans rep. I've even seen a few fans hope "Marjorine" will return one day. As if
1) Butters would want to dress up as a girl again.
2) The girls some how forgot that Marjorine was Butters
3) Matt and Trey would even want to do that to begin with
There's no way they'd troon out Butters out of all of their characters even if they were TRAs because it wouldn't make sense. I don't get why or how this version of Butters became popular even before the trans madness became mainstream. It wasn't like Butters liked being a girl even after the girls apologized to "her" when they were being mean to "Marjorine". Yes there was one scene of him being happy dancing with them but like I said above, he was sick of it and just wanted to go home. It sucks because this episode is actually one of my favorite episodes, but it of course has to be ruined by TRAs all because a boy was forced to dress up as a girl one time.

 

[YWNBAM]

TRAs have ruined the South Park episode "Marjorine". For those who don't know, this is the episode where the boys fake Butters death and have him pretend to be a girl to infiltrate the girls slumber party to get a "future telling device" (it was a cootie catcher). Even though at the end of the episode Butters was clearly done with the whole thing and didn't want to be a girl, TRAs have turned "Marjorine" into a trans icon and I swear to god that almost every art of the female 4th grade girls has to put "her" into it to add trans rep. I've even seen a few fans hope "Marjorine" will return one day. As if
1) Butters would want to dress up as a girl again.
2) The girls some how forgot that Marjorine was Butters
3) Matt and Trey would even want to do that to begin with
There's no way they'd troon out Butters out of all of their characters even if they were TRAs because it wouldn't make sense. I don't get why or how this version of Butters became popular even before the trans madness became mainstream. It wasn't like Butters liked being a girl even after the girls apologized to "her" when they were being mean to "Marjorine". Yes there was one scene of him being happy dancing with them but like I said above, he was sick of it and just wanted to go home. It sucks because this episode is actually one of my favorite episodes, but it of course has to be ruined by TRAs all because a boy was forced to dress up as a girl one time.

Trannies ruined "pretend to be opposite gender to blend in" plot in general. Any character that dared to put on a dress or a mustache for comedy purposes is claimed to be a trans icon. And that's totally not a sign of them enforcing regressive gender norms where "female" and "male" are just two narrow boxes with certain outfits to wear.

In case of male characters using female disguises, coomers are also usually involved in shilling the mtf narrative.

Marco from StarVs comes to mind as an example. In the show he wore a dress once, and the fandom made a big deal about it because the male autists who watched the show were obsessed with femboy porn. /co/ was a mistake and I sincerely wish the worst to the tranny faggots who ruined it with their gay gooner shit. May they all go to Hell, and not the homo furry spider kind.

 

[Quartermaster]

Doesn't South Park already have an accurate trans character with Mr. Garrison?

Apparently this episode is about 20 years old?
Jesus christ

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Doesn't South Park already have an accurate trans character with Mr. Garrison?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-kZ2afCBpfY
Apparently this episode is about 20 years old?
Jesus christ

And South Park also went as far as to make comparisons to other ridiculous ideas, like trans-racial and trans-species.

Such comparisons (especially copypastas like the Attack Helicopter meme) really piss off troons and their enablers, because they still don't have a rebuttal to it even decades later.

 

[Gaysquirt]

The name Lilith

 

[Dr Cruel]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-kZ2afCBpfY

This video was literally made for Kiwi Farms.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Jesus christ

I know It doesn't feel like 20 years, mr. slave, the current year eternal stole about a decades worth of percieved time from those that could percieve it.

They also made the trans sports episode backwhen that kicked up before corona came and destroyed our time perception forever.

(especially copypastas like the Attack Helicopter meme)

That copypasta was about otherkin but like everything else troons had to make it about them. I remmeber the incredibly artificial push to make it associated as a "transphobic copypasta" by early breadtuber types specifically.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Besides the obligatory yet still honest “everything—“

For me, I hate how much community and trust I have lost from trannies getting ahold of women’s spaces. I’ve been in a lot of predominately or solely female spaces, from Girl Scouts to fandom to crafting communities. Trannies of all kinds have taken over each of those spaces one by one to the point where only trans people spamming baby colors and the usual matters. Any women pointing out how bullshit this is gets cast out and their lives actively ruined, especially if they made side income or a living out of said interest.

I have also lost trust in many women (and by extension gay people in general) both in real life and especially online. I see a sunset lesbian flag and I guarantee it’s a tranny. The rare times it’s not it’s almost always a lesbian handmaiden. True and honest lesbians are rare enough as it is. I don’t actively look for them, but there is a commonality that would’ve been nice to have that trannies have ruined. I also assume that any woman mentioned in the news is really a MTF now until proven otherwise or it’s super obvious because they’re that rampant in taking over women’s spaces and achievements. I hate this shit so much.

 

[incomprehensible]

Everything which was made for men.
Just because they think they are women doesn't mean their interests will be different, but thankfully most of them are spergs who infect appropriate content, so it doesn't affect me that much. Their lousy nature will always out-scream every adequate person and, therefore, bring a lot of attention towards the trannies. If you don't notice this valid individual, then he has the full right to call you a bigoted transphobic nazi literal Hitler Trumpist, just because he identifies as a singular they or the opposite sex.

 

[horseorigin]

Umineko is a visual novel about witches (basically) that at the end has a very sad twist that is very clearly about a woman who was robbed of her fertility and proper sexual dimorphism through a freak accident and near-death experience yet troons insist it's about them. probably the most frustrating one I've ever encountered because i actually thoroughly enjoyed it until I realized this was the general consensus online. media literacy in the fucking toilet so bad. I think the most egregious example of it is former animetuber Digibro. after playing it for the first time he immediately decided to put a wig on and call himself "the Golden witch" that now goes by she/her to this day

“We wuz Golden Witches and shieeet.”

 

[Gaysquirt]

Troon developers on their way to push out the 99999th custom Git instance no one uses

They ruined Web 1.0 nostalgia because every troon, and their mother, has a neocities now. Plus, they're over-represented in retro tech and emulation scenes. They've made the entire genre about them, and even worse, their autistic communist politics.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I have seen cases of men that loose a lot of weight and decide to remove excess skin with surgeries. In most cases they get scars similar to zippertits in pooners, so a lot of people nowadays assume that these men are trans when they see the scars.
Its kind of fucked up to compare these two, at least the men got those scars for some good reason and after making a huge effort to loose weight, but pooners only get those for delusional aesthetics, not because they need it. It must be frustrating being a man loosing weight and that the general public will assume youre a delusional woman if they see you like that instead of thinking that you made a change for the better for yourself

I know my opinions might be controversial, but I do think that excess skin removal after weight loss and especially for people who needs it for psychological reasons are no much different from troons. It's a desire for medical quick-fix in hope that a sense of 'normalcy' could be reached... but such 'quick fix' never actually brought us 'real' physical quality they actually wanted.

Oftentimes excess skin surgeries left you with stretched-out, doll-like skin, your fat deposit won't work the right way anymore and if you get fat again you end up with a very weird shape because the fat will accumulate in places where the skin was never cut off. Look at David Elmore Smith if you want to see what that looks like. The skin surgery has 'sort of' functional reasons with reducing rashes and such, but the main reason people do it is cosmetic and the idea that they could 'escape their shame'... And even the surgery itself is starting to gain strange fetishtic cosmetic angle to it. There's an onlyfans model who was formerly fat, she lost a lot of weight, and got the skin removal on her belly but keeping the huge thighs so she can be a model with unnaturally thin waist and humungous butt.. and people who are into her love this because it's novelty.

I think if anything it's two sides of the same coin on how body modifications are becoming so normalised now, these modifications became qualities that people desire.

 

[deermeat]

I think if anything it's two sides of the same coin on how body modifications are becoming so normalised now, these modifications became qualities that people desire

I am not sure if you are joking or not, but I am 95% sure excess skin removal is crucial for ones physical health. It's not good to be carrying around pounds of excess skin folds, not only is it heavy but if you aren't careful with cleaning the folds and protecting the skin 247 you are at risk of getting an infection.

Troons don't gotta worry about any of that, they have healthy bodies. They physically do not need any surgeries, it's all cosmetic for vanity reasons.

 

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

I know my opinions might be controversial, but I do think that excess skin removal after weight loss and especially for people who needs it for psychological reasons are no much different from troons. It's a desire for medical quick-fix in hope that a sense of 'normalcy' could be reached... but such 'quick fix' never actually brought us 'real' physical quality they actually wanted.

I can see what you mean, specially with the fetishistic side some people take but I see that more similar to the people with fetishes towards amputees rather than troons (at least in the rare cases the amputation was necessary and not initially done for fetish purposes, that is more aligned with troons than excess skin removal I think)

Excess skin removal is in many cases not only cosmetic, thats why is done on *excess* skin, is skin that your body doesnt need anymore, it can be a source of skin illnesses like infections and fungus and some people describe that the extra weight can be painful to carry.

Keep in mind people who get these surgeries often went from deathfat to a healthy weight, the skin alone is heavy enough to be an issue for the person.

 

[Banana Bread]

Umineko is a visual novel about witches (basically) that at the end has a very sad twist that is very clearly about a woman who was robbed of her fertility and proper sexual dimorphism through a freak accident and near-death experience yet troons insist it's about them. probably the most frustrating one I've ever encountered because i actually thoroughly enjoyed it until I realized this was the general consensus online. media literacy in the fucking toilet so bad. I think the most egregious example of it is former animetuber Digibro. after playing it for the first time he immediately decided to put a wig on and call himself "the Golden witch" that now goes by she/her to this day

Heavy on this one.
Umineko is that kind of visual novel where around half of the "fanbase" hasn't actually read it and relies on taking things at face value and word of mouth. Alteast on TikTok it's like that, genuinely go have a look if you don't believe me.
I hate how troons have been pushing the "yasu is a tranny" agenda for so long that to most newcomers it looks like an actual canon fact. Genuinely, most people think that she's a tranny.
They get so mad when you don't suck off this theory too. I've had a 35 year old troon on Discord get me timed out on a server because he lost the Tranny Yasu debate (I didn't say slurs nor anything hateful that would get me timed out)

I hope more people actually read the fucking visual novel, maybe the fandom would get slightly better. Or they should atleast read this so they don't act like retards spreading a false agenda

Also even if Yasu was born a male she would hate being a tranny. She literally says so in the game

Spoiler: she would join the 41%

Directly what she says:
"Why...?!! Why did you save me?! Why didn't you let me die?! Because of that terrible injury,...I've been forced to live in a body like this!! I never wanted to live in a body like this!! This body that isn't even capable of love...!! What's...what's the point in living like that?! This isn't a human's life...! It's like being furniture!!"

 

[Fishcat]

Actual autism resources and support groups. Nowadays there's a split between old-fashioned autism resources which are largely centered around normie middle-aged moms who believe that autism is a devil's disease that makes vaccinated toddlers turn retarded (what happens to children with the linear passing of time is unaddressed), and young adults who have basically diluted the meaning to just be another lolz so quirky label. Any teenagers or adults who legitimately need some level of support for whatever aspect that has a disabling effect on their life but aren't at like braindead levels of support needs are either met with the patronizing attempts to strip their autonomy and treat them like tard babies, an attitude of "you can't be autistic because you can brush your own teeth and go 10 seconds in conversation without sperging out, just stop being weird", or the extremely pozzed neurodiversity movement which has become a technicolor circus that honestly talks more about trans stuff than actually helping with any autism stuff. Since this level of autist recognizes that they are different from normies but also aren't literal toddlers, they understandably reject the first 2 responses and become vulnerable to getting funneled into the internet transgender rabbit hole. Notice how many cows start off as misfit kids who got groomed into bad circles when they found deviantART, tumblr, whatever. Since autists tend to be out of touch with social norms, including gender roles, it's easy to turn "I don't fit in with the other guys/girls at school and I don't get what the big deal is with [stereotypical gendered interest like sports or makeup]" to "oh, so I wasn't actually a guy/girl all along" with some bad influence.

Now many people are getting reactionary about it due to the retarded progressive social media clout-chasing takes on mental health labels but the truth is kinda in between: there are genuinely people who are broadly functional on many levels but who do have real differences that affect their adult lives, who ought to have a mix of "learning to become more normal" for traits which are actually negative (like poor executive function skills or high anxiety around change) and societal understanding/accommodation for things which aren't really wrong (like odd but harmless interests). Instead there's kind of a dichotomy of people who only care about heavily stunted little kids and unwell entitled people who want to groom you into their obscure fetish niche of the internet. There is not much support for someone who wants a bit of help working on themselves so they can be a responsible adult while also maintaining autonomy and respect.

 

[PS3 Slim]

Persona 3. Why do troons want to make everyone gay or trans? I never understood that... Some of them I can understand like Kotone. But why make Fuuka trans? Why make Makoto trans? How the hell is Aigis trans-coded? I never really understood this tbh