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Should be a wild four years.

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Alright, devil's advocate, and maybe I'm retarded, but:
how do we go from "Biden went to his house a few times" to immediately "and plotted to kill Trump". I don't see the connection, just conjecture. Maybe I missed something, but this just reads as "Shapiro was behind it because I'm saying he was behind it". Like, yes, there is a mountain of suspicious shit you could lay at his and Biden's feet, but I just don't see the connection in this particular case. Getting roadblocked trying to report it sounds suspect, but getting rung up about this sounds annoying in the same way I would understand somebody calling my local police department to schizoramble about how he knows who did 9/11. I read this expecting something like recordings or emails things of that nature being revealed, but this just reads as "I KNOW WHO DID 9/11" to me.

With any luck maybe this could go further and uncover something of substance.
My first thought is that this guy knows something but he can't prove it. He doesn't have the evidence but he's trying to blow this wide open. It makes sense to me, as out of left field as this accusation is. Josh has a proven history of doing shady shit and his authority would clear up a lot of roadblocks. If he did it though it's not going to end with him. Trump's gonna beat the info on his co- conspirators out of his ass.



Its a stupidly weak link in the assassination chain but you have to remember: Trump wasn't supposed to live. Josh was likely going to roadblock efforts to look into the killing.

Maybe it's bullshit but it's a very interesting little bat signal.


Probably to piss of Illinois Dems, and Dems in general. He was a Democrat that got thrown under the bus and has since been a thorn in their side, as he's now more than happy to discuss the crazy corruption in Illinois.

Fwiw, I 100% believe he was guilty of corruption - Illinois corruption is wild. I doubt there's an innocent soul in politics anywhere in the state.
What's the worst thing he did back in the age of accountability? Now look at all the shit Dems do now with no pushback. This guy is quaint in comparison. ( Unless he was kicking puppy's or something)

63?! Was he smoking asbestos and drinking drain cleaner? Shatner looks 63 and he’s 90, FDR looks like he’s being punished by god makes sense come to think of it
FDR hit the booze and nicotine HARD. Dude was quite the party animal and He got shitfaced with Churchill in the white house.

As something of a counterbalance to all the (justified) hate I think he was good at organizing the war efforts and planning, as well as raising the morale of the American public. Authorized shipping of equipment to the Brits and Russians was instrumental to winning the war.

I rated you autistic for believing a fucking Muppet is real and would have sex.
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Never saw it but I've seen too much already. ( Made by jim Hensons son I think)


Your faith and love is misplaced. Left or Right, America's leadership will always fail.
My God you're worse then fatpacks. Just because you know star wars lore does not make you an expert on politics or psychology.
Is this like a bot or something? I refuse to believe there is a person who legitimately thinks this is going to convince or manipulate anyone.
No dude. He's big in the star wars thread and has some interesting sperging over there I remembered enjoying.
 
She wasn't even the first woman to go through it as I understand. I just think it's silly. It's grown from having a grievance with that to just mocking and attacking everything she says and seemingly trying to whip up some lefty style cancel mob at her. Typical retard rightoid behavior that will bite them in the ass eventually. If she votes with things you agree with who gives a shit let her say the funny memes. These people want their reps to be perfect golden children free of hypocrisy and man the type of people who run for office you're never going to find that. The left understands this and will support a literal KKK leader and prevent them from being attacked for it as long as they're voting for the agenda.
She's in a safely red seat and won't be going anywhere. But she's also a feminist who thinks Progress should have stopped the day the last male privilege was taken away and the day before trannies started taking away female privileges, and a crazy bitch who constantly flashes her premenopausal cleavage, loves talking about how fuckable she is, and uses Congress to #metoo her ex. Nice to have a red vote in the House who's willing to say "tranny," but she doesn't deserve all the signal boosting she gets.
southern women were the original "big tiddy goth gf", they were the only Teutonic white people that enjoyed fucking in the US back in the late 20th century, look at Nikki Haley
u wot m8
 
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Trump ignoring the court writs IS THE POINT they were made so retardedly overreaching. If he were to pull a Jackson option, the trap would be sprung and they’d try everything to tar him as a dictator in the process of a coup against the judiciary in a bid to overthrow law and put himself in as supreme leader, someone who might even ignore the constitution and be dictator forever. They’d then start Impeachment proceedings. It’d fail, but it’d take the wind out of his sails and the rhythm of winning would be interrupted and it’d be twice as hard to start over.
He needs to litigate these, and in doing so define the powers of the president in a way to allow himself to get even more done.
 
I remember that. I remember journos dragging their feet towards calling it an assassination attempt in the first place. "Trump falls at loud noises." Those cocksuckers.
It's almost enough to make you wish that journoswine accidentally run themselves repeatedly into a knife held by an innocent negro who then takes reparations from their wallet while they lay bleeding out on the street
 
That and general expense. Beautiful buildings cost extra to build. Hard to justify for voters the need to spend 30% more so your new town admin building has marble columns and brass doors that only swing inwards on steel hinges rather then a concrete box with plastic automatic doors.

Personally I wouldn't mind my taxes go to the brass doors and marble columns rather then EBT cards, but I am an unrepentant Chud.
The artisans who would create the beautiful detail work simply no longer exist. It's not even a matter of money, if you want buildings in an old style, you'd need to start scholar-craftsmen NOW on a project of relearning and even reinventing the techniques of the past, so that maybe in several years you could start putting them to work on a handful of buildings doing that work, and slowly training apprentices so you could scale up. Unadorned concrete is cheaper on so many levels.

A beautiful, adorned style of the future will probably need to rely on mass-production techniques in some way to have any chance of taking off; perhaps automated yet custom production techniques like 3D printing offer a model.
 
More broadly though, I am tired of the incessant division.
The whole point of naming bases after CSA generals was national unity. There were still lots of Civil War vets alive when WW1 kicked off, Reconstruction was still fresh memory, and there was a concerted effort to stop kicking the South in the teeth and start treating them like they're actually Americans. Part of this was treating their rebellion as an internal conflict between states and letting them have their heroes. Part of it was cynical since, to this day, the bulk of trigger-pullers in the Army are Southern whites.

Base renaming is part of a leftist agenda to say no, we never should have stopped stomping on Dixie, in fact, we probably should have executed every CSA officer and maybe followed up with an ethnic cleansing campaign. Because if you have been paying attention, the left has been saying for years now that the continued existence of Southern whites is in the way of paradise.

I'm not Southern or even a CSA sympathizer, but not an inch should be given to these bastards. The Civil War, its aftermath, and how the leaders of the early 20th century chose to close the door on the bloodiest chapter in our history are all part of their history, and the leftist quest to erase it so they can make the election of Barack Obama the new birth of our nation should not be tolerated.
 
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2008 Happened entirely because the people in power forced banks to loan to dumb fuck niggers who had no chance of paying the loans back.
Disparate Impact and it's consequences has been a disaster for the human race.

Also I am partial to John Singer Sargent insofar as American painters go, but he's more a portrait artist. Completely agree on Kinkade vs. Ross, though. Kinkade died from the ol' Ethan Ralph special: booze and benzo combo.
 
Where would you rank Trump45 among all presidents? Where would you rank Biden? I think Biden is objectively on the bottom of the barrel.

I would be somewhat generous to Obama and FDR despite the ideological differences, but Biden was just a clusterfuck of gaslighting, ranking debt, and being braindead.

As for Trump45 I wouldn't rank him that high but because he wasn't really consequential.
Trump45 would be somewhere in the middle, perhaps lower middle to me. He did a lot of good, but he was also so divisive and surrounded himself with the wrong people, leading to the clusterfuck that was Biden and the woke takeover.

Biden still wouldn't be the worst for me. That dishonor belongs and will hopefully forever belong to James Buchanan, since his incompetence and inaction directly led to a civil war that would kill nearly a million Americans.

Second worst would be Andrew Johnson, who immediately fucked up what Lincoln had intended to accomplish and whose actions would ultimately result in a failed Reconstruction that would later lead to the particular brand of racial issues we have today. If black Americans weren't so disenfranchised in the South, then they wouldn't have had to move north and west in such large numbers to find better livelihoods meaning the South Side of Chicago and Oakland wouldn't be the ghetto shitholes they are now.

Biden would be just above Andrew Johnson, perhaps tied with Herbert Hoover (who, in his defense, experienced an unprecedented economic disaster, but his ardent refusal to intervene ultimately made things much worse than they could have been). He was almost stunningly incompetent, with his only real "achievement" being getting the closest a President has ever gotten to becoming an outright authoritarian dictator, using federal law enforcement to persecute political opponents and collaborating with the media and big companies to push his side's insane political agendas.

The reason I wouldn't put him as worse than Johnson is that Biden was SO bad, the backlash to his policies led to the election of Trump 47, who is not only undoing what Biden did, but decades of Democrat rot in the federal government thanks to having had time to reevaluate what went wrong. If things keep going the way they're going I have a feeling this second administration will go down as one of the greatest in this country's history.
 
It just feels a lot different now, we are nearly two weeks into February and I haven't been bombarded by nigger history month stuff at all.
My workplace still has it but they already paid for the displays so they might as well put them up. But hey they're not around me so out of sight out of mind.
 
Wikipedia desperately wants it to be true, but there is no evidence for it beyond the fact that the man was literally married to the Army and never married an actual woman.
The mental image of him riding into Valley Forge on a sleigh with his twink in tow will still be amusing to me no matter how real or false it is. The idea of a campy gay german man drilling the colonial army into shape would make a great comedy movie,
 
Trump ignoring the court writs IS THE POINT they were made so retardedly overreaching. If he were to pull a Jackson option, the trap would be sprung and they’d try everything to tar him as a dictator in the process of a coup against the judiciary in a bid to overthrow law and put himself in as supreme leader, someone who might even ignore the constitution and be dictator forever. They’d then start Impeachment proceedings. It’d fail, but it’d take the wind out of his sails and the rhythm of winning would be interrupted and it’d be twice as hard to start over.
He needs to litigate these, and in doing so define the powers of the president in a way to allow himself to get even more done.
I'm open to that. Like how it was strategic to let his supporters languish in prison for four years. But I'm not going to trust the fucking plan or any q shit. Measurable results only. I don't want to hear how he's dodging legal 5D chess gambits we can't even perceive with our human senses, I want a forecast that measures liberal tears in inches daily.
 
Trump ignoring the court writs IS THE POINT they were made so retardedly overreaching. If he were to pull a Jackson option, the trap would be sprung and they’d try everything to tar him as a dictator in the process of a coup against the judiciary in a bid to overthrow law and put himself in as supreme leader, someone who might even ignore the constitution and be dictator forever. They’d then start Impeachment proceedings. It’d fail, but it’d take the wind out of his sails and the rhythm of winning would be interrupted and it’d be twice as hard to start over.
He needs to litigate these, and in doing so define the powers of the president in a way to allow himself to get even more done.
"No no guys you see, it's all a trap, Trump must behave exactly the way they want him to or else the left will say stuff!"
 
I nominate Thomas Cole. He's an English- born American painter. You can visit his works in DC, I believe in the National Gallery. You have probably come across his works while tilling here at the farms.

A couple of samples.
 

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