Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[DragoonSierra]

Did Russ ever represent in his filings that the RO was actually granted or that he just "filed" for one?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Did Russ ever represent in his filings that the RO was actually granted or that he just "filed" for one?

He only made the statement to Mr. Hardin, and it was only the latter one, I believe

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

I do believe Greer's Tard Card is nearly maxed out. I hope the judge lets Hardin sanction Greer for all he's worth.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Is this usual, or is Bennett finally getting grumpy?

Bennett appears to be tiring of dealing with the pro se retards pro se plights and bullshit.

While I can't say if this is usual, my best guess is that there's an expectation - even if unwritten - that legal documents be concise and to the point. The typical RG filing is full of plight sperging and irrelevant content that shouldn't be there, and I think Bennett is trying to say as politely as possible, "Enough is enough. Stick to the (relevant) topic/s at hand."

 

[DavidS877]

Here's what Greer said in the initial disclosures.

Which is a funny way to say DENIED.
(Docket 219 Document 8 )

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

My bad, I fucked up. I was under the impression that an RO is a physical order received from a judge, not a document one files themselves to request a judge to approve based on their merits.

In that case, yes he does have a document with the words “Restraining Order” on it but it was laughed out of the police station for being pants-on-head retarded.

 

[YouTube Autist]

Greer has two weeks from today (so due date 24 February 2025) to file a briefing showing why he should not be ordered to pay Hardin's fees.

I'm looking forward to this one. So many of Russell's filings have basically the same content over and over ("I am disabled, the mentally ill neo Nazi trolls from kiwi farms [link to Mother Jones article] harassed me because I am disabled. My life and career were going great until [target of current lawsuit] ruined them, and I had a PTSD attack and vomited. Blah blah blah blah.") and yet somehow each one is a gloriously new creation. It's a bit like watching a rose bloom: it's fundamentally the same as the last 50 roses you saw, and yet somehow it is unique and worthwhile to appreciate.

 

[waffle]

I'm looking forward to this one. So many of Russell's filings have basically the same content over and over ("I am disabled, the mentally ill neo Nazi trolls from kiwi farms [link to Mother Jones article] harassed me because I am disabled. My life and career were going great until [target of current lawsuit] ruined them, and I had a PTSD attack and vomited. Blah blah blah blah.") and yet somehow each one is a gloriously new creation. It's a bit like watching a rose bloom: it's fundamentally the same as the last 50 roses you saw, and yet somehow it is unique and worthwhile to appreciate.

Russ is like a LLM, he just remixes the same stuff over and over again, but he does it in ways that's are so board and with so many ingredients it feels new even if no single component is.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

My bad, I fucked up. I was under the impression that an RO is a physical order received from a judge, not a document one files themselves to request a judge to approve based on their merits.

In that case, yes he does have a document with the words “Restraining Order” on it but it was laughed out of the police station for being pants-on-head retarded.

I think you're being retarded just a bit. Yes, a restraining order is issued by a judge, but shitlips never said "I was awarded a RO against Joshua Moon" he only said "I filed for a restraining order". So he is still technically not lying. I assume Hardin will bring up the fact that it was denied and that this is more "gamesmanship" but he can't claim that he was lying if all he said is that he filed for a RO because he did.

 

[The Dude]

I'm looking forward to this one. So many of Russell's filings have basically the same content over and over ("I am disabled, the mentally ill neo Nazi trolls from kiwi farms [link to Mother Jones article] harassed me because I am disabled. My life and career were going great until [target of current lawsuit] ruined them, and I had a PTSD attack and vomited. Blah blah blah blah.") and yet somehow each one is a gloriously new creation. It's a bit like watching a rose bloom: it's fundamentally the same as the last 50 roses you saw, and yet somehow it is unique and worthwhile to appreciate.

It's kind of like in Star Trek when a transporter accident creates a duplicate of someone. They are virtually identical, yet there are distinct differences between the original and the transporter copy.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Russ is like a LLM, he just remixes the same stuff over and over again, but he does it in ways that's are so board and with so many ingredients it feels new even if no single component is.

He practices cargo cult law, he's seen what has worked in the past but not understood the reasons for it working so he just keeps doing the same thing over and over in the hopes that it'll work again.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

He practices cargo cult law, he's seen what has worked in the past but not understood the reasons for it working so he just keeps doing the same thing over and over in the hopes that it'll work again.

Did I ever tell you...the definition of retarded?

 

[Al from Dadeville]

Hardin will.

Nah he probably won’t think to check. Russell can outsmart him if he just puts a little bit of effort into this.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

He practices cargo cult law, he's seen what has worked in the past but not understood the reasons for it working so he just keeps doing the same thing over and over in the hopes that it'll work again.

Russ's delusions are not helped by judicial caprice and those meddling pro bono-rs. The powers that be have granted him a boon before; he just needs the right magic words.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

He practices cargo cult law, he's seen what has worked in the past but not understood the reasons for it working so he just keeps doing the same thing over and over in the hopes that it'll work again.

He also does things that didn't work in the past. A lot of this case is just a rehash of his behavior in the AGT suit.

 

[Harvey Danger]

He can always just forge one. It’s not like the judge would check.

Or the defendants, who are well known for their total lack of curiosity and investigative acumen.

It will never stop being funny that Hardin discovered both Greer's brother's address, and the viability status of his good friend/witness, before Greer himself did.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I think you're being retarded just a bit. Yes, a restraining order is issued by a judge, but shitlips never said "I was awarded a RO against Joshua Moon" he only said "I filed for a restraining order". So he is still technically not lying. I assume Hardin will bring up the fact that it was denied and that this is more "gamesmanship" but he can't claim that he was lying if all he said is that he filed for a RO because he did.

If you think banking on tecknially was a smart move, I'd say yours is the more retarded take. The point is he was being deceptive and disingenuous in the way he mentioned all of it, and getting cute with this kind of thing is a bad idea. It was transparent from the jump - the way he described all of his outcomes was slippery at best, and it was obvious it was not fully truthful even not actually knowing what the outcomes were. Trying to poison the well with references to a restraining order was similarly deceptive - but it had to wait for the process. Hardin knows it. The judge knows it. And now Russ has to try to plight or "Greer shouldn't be punished for his clear misrepresentations because Greer did not understand that lying to a court was wrong" his way out of it.

It may be coincidental that this was decided on the eve of when Greer is supposed to be negotiating in good faith about his penalty for bad, wasteful, and deceptive behavior. Or maybe not.

But I've been saying it for months: this judge is not stupid nor blinded.

 

[AnOminous]

Hey Greer, the cock going up your ass is getting longer and longer. If you don't like things getting things for you worse, consider fucking off with your bullshit.

Whoops, helped Greer again.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Can Hardin ask for a current valid address in discovery, and then get Russ sanctioned when he doesn't give it? Including postage for all the mail he's sent to date since Russ has NEVER given this court a real address?

 

[Kosher Dill]

Can Hardin ask for a current valid address in discovery, and then get Russ sanctioned when he doesn't give it?

Trying to go after something the judge has all but shouted "I DON'T CARE" about probably won't win Hardin many points, in a case where the judge's whims are paramount.