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We got a doozy today, lads - a 66-year-old ex-junkie hoarding-prone pooner grandma with ADHD and fibromyalgia tries to convince her middle-aged daughter, who she raised all by herself as a single mom, that this isn't a phase and obligates her to assist in her post-surgical recovery; daughter subsequently gets pressured by other family members to be a good little liberal and toe the line, yet cannot bring herself to help out during Mom's bilateral mastectomy when push comes to shove.

To make matters worse for OP? OP's own sister - a former ally - seems to have also changed her tune after convening with the daughter. What's a withered ol' poon to do?

This is a long one, so I've bolded the parts I found most eye-catching.
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Coming out to Grown Daughter - so far - The Good the Bad the Ugly (LONG)​

A while back I posted looking for stories of coming out to grown children and heard a few, and they were helpful so thanks to those who answered. Information and experiences in this matter are few and far between.

I am age 66, and my daughter is 47 years old. She is my only child, and we have mostly been super close like most single mom (as I was) / single daughter combos. About 7 years ago she married and of course we became less close as she concentrated on her marriage, having a child at a late age of life, and buying a house. During that time I came out as gender fluid, something she wasn't very supportive of, although she is very liberal and has many queer friends and makes her living as a therapist in a blue state. She wasn't anti - she just ignored it. Eventually right before I came out to her as trans she even told my grandson that I was a woman, not both as I had explained to him. I think she took it back, but still it was very painful when that happened

When my grandson was born it was right before the pandemic and as 2021 came on I moved into her town from my prior state to be close to her and the grandson who is my eye-apple. About a year ago i decided to go back into therapy, and as part of it I chose a non-binary therapist, to help me explore what did gender fluid really mean to me? In the course of that work, my egg cracked all the way. I realized I was ftm, did an intense study of transitioning and got on T and started looking for my top surgery consult.

Coming out to my daughter was hard. We never have any time for private talks. My process was first I tried to read up on coming out to your kids and I talked to my therapist about it alot. I started asking her for time alone -- I would take her to dinner, lunch, breakfast whatever she wanted. She never had time for me and when I saw her my grandson and/or my son-in-law were always there. I came out to my sister who lives in a nearby city first just so I would have one family member on the hook to help me with my top surgery. My therapist had me write a letter to her, not to give to her, but to get all my thoughts on paper. I was particularly afraid that my daughter would feel abandoned as I used a lot of drugs when she was a young child, although I've been clean 34 years and am definitely here for her as in so many ways. It s still a trauma when a parent uses and I own that. I can't change it, I can only do good in the present time, but I do acknowledge the harm I did then.

Finally one day, her husband was out doing errands and I was dropping by to babysit but she said she was not going out. She was going to be home catching up on paperwork. So I told her. I was very calm and loving while she cried and tried to bargain me out of it. I didn't ask her to use my pronouns or call me Dad. She was afraid this was another woo-woo thing of mine because I am so eccentric but I told her it is helping me be more present with myself in ways I've never been able to do before. It is helping me keep my house cleaner and to exercise more for some examples, and my dissociation disorder has finally fled. Holding on from myself my male identity took so much energy and now I'm better at self care. She made me promise to keep my house cleaner (I have had severe cluttering hoarding problems in the past but now I have more moderate messiness issues, compounded by ADHD and chronic illnesses) and ssaid then she would accept me being trans. To me that was silly but it felt like a fair trade - I know she has anxiety disorder and worries about me, and I want to take better carre of my house anyway.

Then she came out for me to my sister-in-law and brother who live in state, as well as my other sister on the other coast, and probably several other people. I just accepted it because she needed support. I'm her parent. I want to have support. I don't like the uncontrolled way my coming out is going in the family but I was more concerned for her than me. My sister-in-law and brother read her the riot act and told her she had to accept it. They have an agendered child so they are fairly conversant in trans allysship. I let her talk to my two long-distance BFFs too and I don't think she liked what they said.

As time went on and I got my top surgery approved for 1/29 she became very involved and argumentative about how I should go about my post-op (when I was also still in information gathering phase myself.) I made an appointment for her to talk to my surgeon with me there, and I am an appointment for her to talk to my therapist with me there.

But now she has bowed out. She took a short vacation to my old state with my sister who lives i this state, another brother, and sort of an adopted family and lot of friends and came back and bowed out of my surgery. She will not help me in anyway, and cannot deal with my transition and so she still loves me and thinks we will be close again someday but now she cannot deal. I think this is disappointing and unhelpful but at the same time, I know it is hard for her and I think it is a better answer than some people get. Of course I still get to give them free babysitting, lol. Anyway, she usesd the words 'it's just too fast for me'.

Yeah. Well if it was cancer or an injury it would be too fast too but she wouldn't drop me, I don't think. Or maybe she would. Sorry, you have cancer, it's too fast for me. Sorry you are trans, it's too fast for me. But it 50 years too late for me, but too fast for you. Sigh.
Now my sister who was going to be my primary drop off and pick up for my surgery is saying the same thing. "It's too fast for me." She doessn't want to spend Christmas with me and I could tell she wanted to back off from the surgery altogether. My sister in law is where I'm going to stay after surgery, but she might not be able to give me a ride and my sister was going give me a ride.

I'm going to ask around to my friends. My surgery is on a week day and it is 2 hours away from my home city. It's possible my sister in law might could take me but she won't know for a few weeks, so I want a back up if my sister backs out.

Discussion: my feelings are a mix of acceptance and anger and disappointment. Are those sensible for the situation. I know many trans people get a LOT less support than I'm getting and Im grateful for it, and I hope eventually to fix/heal the relationship with my sister and my daughter. My therapist said words about boundaries and letting them take care of themselves. Am I out of line to wish for better support from my daughter and sister who are supposedly liberal? I know I need to let go but first I want to be sad and hurt and angry, then I'll let go eventually.
 
I know this is the last thing I should be focusing on here, but "go to a small country like Brazil" actually made me groan. These people probably can't even find any country that isn't the US on a map (if they even manage that), but they give each other advice on moving abroad. They're just so confident in their stupidity whether it's when they're taking shit about biology or anything else. It's baffling.
I fully support their decision to escape 'genocide' by going to Brazil where tranny hookers get shot all the time.
 
An eyeshadow palette I wanted went on sale and I went to see real photos of it. Scrolling down a bit, and...

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The thumbnail was intriguing, but then I clicked on it. So much worse than I could've imagined.



You come to find out he's hiding his mouth with the palette for a reason. He looks like he's wearing a pair of those joke hillbilly teeth you get in grocery store prize machines. Monkey arms, box-jawed jack-o-lantern head - everything in the room is made of filth, himself included.

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One brown, mummified finger.... Grime? Henna stain? Did he... ??????

This motherfucker needs to be forced to watch Rupaul's Drag Race, notepad and pen at the ready.
He had enough money for all those stupid toys. All those alternative-style fast fashion outfits (pricer than normal fast fashion). The makeup. And enough time to set it all up, dress up, film a makeup review, edit his thumnails and deploy countless filters.

AND HE CAN'T BOTHER WITH A BAR OF SOAP AND A WASHCLOTH. Pick the gunk out of your eyes for god's sake.
 
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What...... In that case, what in God's name is he going out with?
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(Woops, looks likes I've accidently up voted ththe first pro toon comment. Will go back and down vote the fucker- I do very occasionally up vote troon comments, but only when they are on 40 and i want it to be 41.)
 
Re: the 66 year old trooning out. I read through that long post and all I saw was: “me, Me, ME”.

I love how she admits to coming out to another relative first so as to: “have someone on the hook to look after me, post op.” or words to that effect.

I suspect when she told her daughter, she spent a fair bit of time ramming it down her throat. As an immediate family member, this would be difficult to absorb at the best of times and giving those loved ones space to hoist aboard the info and formulate questions strikes me as the decent thing to do.

I can’t help thinking about the little grandchild. How can they begin to grasp that Grandma is now Grandpa?

Jesus, the more I think about how messy and confusing this hadd as to be for families, the more MATI I get.
 
We got a doozy today, lads - a 66-year-old ex-junkie hoarding-prone pooner grandma with ADHD and fibromyalgia tries to convince her middle-aged daughter, who she raised all by herself as a single mom, that this isn't a phase and obligates her to assist in her post-surgical recovery; daughter subsequently gets pressured by other family members to be a good little liberal and toe the line, yet cannot bring herself to help out during Mom's bilateral mastectomy when push comes to shove.

To make matters worse for OP? OP's own sister - a former ally - seems to have also changed her tune after convening with the daughter. What's a withered ol' poon to do?

This is a long one, so I've bolded the parts I found most eye-catching.
I think I found her.

Username is weird and unique, odds seem low that this would be a completely different person.
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Old Reddit username posted to genderfluid:

Sad to scroll all the way back on the Insta and see the relatively normal family and friend circle she used to have that she is obviously blowing up to troon out. Given the history of addiction, it's pretty obvious this is a big ass relapse, and nothing any more dignified than that.

If I spent another 30 minutes on this I could probably give you her real name and all that jazz but damn, who wants to spend another 30 minutes watching a junky hit rock bottom while her cherubic grandson looks on in confusion.

Edit: fine, I had nothing better to do


Rosie Grace Wilcox
 
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This tranny also posts in a sub called "oldhagfashion" or some shit like that
Here’s the source of this user’s attachment. And here’s an archive of that source. And here’s his commentary:
u/AnnualSkirt9921 on r/WoW said:

I used to express myself in WoW, now my characters mimic me :)

For those who don't know my story, WoW saved my life. It gave me an avenue to express myself in a relatively safe environment. I reside on Proudmoore (Alliance) where the largest LGBTQ+ community resides in this game. I came out as trans in 2023 at the age of 33, after 19 years of using WoW as a form of expression. Now my WoW characters are mimicking me not vice versa!
He posted this 18 days ago to 7.4K upvotes and 924 comments.
He liked this costume so much that he even crossposted it to multiple subreddits. He posted it to r/translater (archive), r/oldhagfashion (archive), r/outfits (archive), and r/Weddingattireapproval. But let’s look at r/Weddingattireapproval:
u/AnnualSkirt9921 said:

I wore this to a Gala this evening and my friend told me I NEED to wear it to her wedding​

Some context here. My friends are a queer couple, been together for 2 years and recently engaged. One of them said I NEED to wear this to her wedding. While I'm sure her dress will look beautiful, I'd feel a little weird wearing it even if I end up being in the bridal party. While most guests wouldn't care I'm sure some may be annoyed. What would you do? The wedding date isn't set yet but sometimes I feel like even if the brides/grooms ask for it, is it the right thing to do?
Source. Archive. Posted 18 days ago to 16K upvotes and 125 comments.
I like how he was told to wear this for the wedding but he had to confabulate a question so he could humblebrag on this subreddit.

And the comments are pretty hilarious, too. These comments are from the r/WoW post:
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You read that right. He has a kid. And, of course, a tranny or tranny apologist bragging about the dearth of free speech online:
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And hey, a callback to something earlier in the thread!
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If it makes any of us feel better, we’re not the only ones laughing at this guy. A Reddit user on r/LoveforLandChads reposted it as a joke, adding the following caption:
u/Apart_Brilliant_1749 said:

Me after evicting 3 single mothers during the height of snow season. Feeling cute, might delete l8ter​

Archive. Posted 16 days ago to 126 upvotes and 10 comments.
Leading to some funny replies:
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But not everyone approved! Behold:
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He posted again, today:

u/AnnualSkirt9921 said:
Feel especially fem today!!!

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Source. Archive. Posted 12 hours ago (as of the time of this post) to 532 upvotes and 24 comments.
All the comments are sucking his ass and telling him that, “you look great, hon”. I feel bad for his dog. It seems to understand that the heels were a bad choice.

Feel like doxing?
Things he inadvertently revealed about himself:
  • He “came out as trans in 2023 at the age of 33, after 19 years of using WoW as a form of expression”. Depending on his exact birthday, we’re looking at someone born 1989 to 1990, or about 34 to 35 years. He’s been “out” for about a year according to that metric, but he changes his story depending on the post.
  • He’s on the board of five nonprofits.
  • He has a “partner”.
  • He has a dog.
  • He has a child. Unfortunately.
  • Many of the comments indicate he crossposts to multiple subreddits (and Facebook) constantly and in perpetuity, which indicates poor OPSEC and opportunities to gather more information.
  • The gala he attended was for suicide awareness. His friends received an award. They are “queer” and expecting to be married soon.
 
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Xe's posting about Trigger Gridman on his Xitter, so he probably stole his name from a 14-year-old girl from that anime whose thighs people coom over. Why does a great classic toku show have to be a den of degeneracy and autism?
"#1 Kaapo Kakko Fan" is really odd, he's a Finnish winger for the Kraken. Rikka sounds like a Finnish name too, maybe xe has a weird obsession with Finland?
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Re: the 66 year old trooning out. I read through that long post and all I saw was: “me, Me, ME”.

I love how she admits to coming out to another relative first so as to: “have someone on the hook to look after me, post op.” or words to that effect.

I suspect when she told her daughter, she spent a fair bit of time ramming it down her throat. As an immediate family member, this would be difficult to absorb at the best of times and giving those loved ones space to hoist aboard the info and formulate questions strikes me as the decent thing to do.

I can’t help thinking about the little grandchild. How can they begin to grasp that Grandma is now Grandpa?

Jesus, the more I think about how messy and confusing this hadd as to be for families, the more MATI I get.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children. This cunt who has decided to betray her adult children and her minor grandchildren is a creature of the lowest order. I hope there is an unmarked grave in her future.
 
Can't quote it but the fat tranny in the pink and purple dress on the snowy deck with his dog. God does that dog look so ashamed to be in the picture. Poor doggy he's probably a good boy stuck with a freak.
 
We got a doozy today, lads - a 66-year-old ex-junkie hoarding-prone pooner grandma with ADHD and fibromyalgia tries to convince her middle-aged daughter, who she raised all by herself as a single mom, that this isn't a phase and obligates her to assist in her post-surgical recovery; daughter subsequently gets pressured by other family members to be a good little liberal and toe the line, yet cannot bring herself to help out during Mom's bilateral mastectomy when push comes to shove.
This one reads like your classic BPD nutter with an unhealthy co-dependent relationship with her daughter, who finally broke free at the age of 40. I guess pulling the "I'm a gender special" card was a way to try and bring back attention to herself. There's likely a lot of fucked up behavior that this elderly pooner doesn't reveal if her sister "suddenly" turned against her.
 
The fact that these stories are so widespread suggests to me that there is a really cowardly culture in those spaces, averse to calling out bad behaviour in their peers, and that is the sort of indulgence that troons thrive on.
Like @AMHOLIO said, that's literally the first couple of Geek Social Fallacies, identified back in 2003.
One brown, mummified finger.... Grime? Henna stain? Did he... ??????
Maybe he's a smoker :optimistic:
 
Since you’ve been good little Farmers, Santa is bringing you three updates.

Annika828

Our newest cow, a married engineer from Houston, awaits a full write-up from me, but one is coming. Basically he’s blowing up his marriage to a very based wife so he can pursue his coom. Strikingly, he clearly has some doubts - creating and deleting posts on Reddit, dipping his toe into /r/AskAGP, and asking questions like this:

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Why do eggs crack?​

Discussion

It’s a common theme here but why do we have this situation where there is “no return” to pre-transition longing.

I recall several episodes as kid/adolescent— 4th grade - 10th grade — where I had extended periods of wanting to be female and fantasizing about how life would be as a girl.

But it never had this feeling of “gotta do this” that I got when I hit 30. I feel it was triggered by my dissatisfaction with my marriage and then when I saw FFS and such I was like wow! This isn’t science fiction!!

What is up with that — like I cannot put the genie back in the bottle on this one!

”I feel it was triggered by my dissatisfaction with my marriage.” No shit. He is slowly recognising this might not work out.

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He keeps posting the same two selfies from his business trip, which at least means he’s not doing this anywhere near the 4 year old and 14 year old.

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He then posted on /r/crossdressing, asking for tips

Hi all — first time cross dressing - feel I need a lot of work lol.

Some gorgeous ladies on here 😄 hoping to get feedback on where my look most needs help!

I haven’t done FFS but have been on low dose (2 mg)E for a year (hence some chest growth).
In my own view my lower face is very heavy/wide and I have quite a bit of brow bossing and forehead — not sure makeup will be magical enough. Just terribly masculine face :-/

And my wig is not on correctly…can only improve from here 😆
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Hon Lisa

No photos, but someone’s libido is back in time for Christmas.

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This is a tale of speedrunning to destroy your life for the coom.

Hon Lisa is 53, 6’1”, well built and until recently bearded. He is from the US, and served three tours in the US Navy and developed combat PTSD. He then married his Australian wife and moving to Tamworth, a large town in country NSW, Australia, where he works as an ICU nurse.

His mother wanted daughters, and in a way she got them, with both sons trooning out. His brother did so 30 years ago. Although Hon Lisa had crossdressed and had sexual encounters with a male friend as a teenager, he failed to consider this as a signal that he is bisexual and maybe needs the cock. He has retconned this to knowing he was trans. Instead he married and raised four kids, some of whom inherited his autism and Tourette’s. He decided he was a woman in 2023, but only told his wife on 9 March 2024.

He and his wife have not had sex for about a decade as she has some vaginal issues, and he needs viagra. They are both Baptists; she is the more committed Christian, but he has participated in church activities such as the Boys Brigade. She was also sexually assaulted as a child by her aunt. That horrible personal history plus her faith have made her very unsupportive of his desire to cosplay as her aunt while he’s married to her, oddly. She supports his decision to go to a gender therapist, as does their pastor. They clearly don’t understand what a gender therapist does. She has been dreaming about him coming home fully transitioned, and also praying for death. Now she is also praying and fasting for him to be free of this curse, as she calls it, and showing him detransitioner videos.

Two weeks after dropping this bombshell on his wife, he learns he may have prostate cancer (25 March). He naturally leans on his wife for support, because he loves her and wants to stay married to her. He even says „For this I am even willing to put aside dreams of having sexual relations with men as a woman.” So of course three days later he posts extremely haram photos with a request to be bred.

This is not totally unexpected. He has been sneaking off to glory holes when he’s been in Sydney. His first appointment with the gender therapist in Sydney in early June was one such opportunity. So far any sex with men has mostly been as a man, but he has been trying to find someone in his town to fuck him while wearing underwear (he borrows his wife’s it seems). Unprotected, naturally, and it seems he is happy for it to be in public too. As of today, he has been unsuccessful.

Meanwhile, his original Reddit account was banned from one subreddit, so he created an alt in late June, FukmiMoore, which has been posted more and more on Islamic topics, along with invitations to fuck him.

His hometown is about 40,000 people. As an ICU nurse, he meets a lot of strangers, and he has also led church activities. He is a tall man with an American accent. If he ever gets the physical date he wants, it is not impossible that he gets recognised before or after the event. That’s aside from the risk of assault, disease or arrest.

So there you have it. Four months from confession to trying to bareback in parks with random strangers.

making plans
mmm, tuna steaks
the ultimatum
Hon Lisa’s life story
continuing fallout
mortality & moobs
love bombing
Friar Tuck
the mystery of the underpants revealed
what do you mean, just like a man?
spare me this temptation
Mr Floppy
why do perverts DM me?
Breed me!
Old Glory
obvious degeneracy
theft vs borrowing
bloody vegans
enter FukmiMoore
a burst of activity
Hon Lisa’s haram thoughts
stood up
LiveJournal entries
spare room, new panties
the pangs of conscience
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
post-coom desperation
a quintessence of dust
Get thee in my behind, Satan
another disturbing fetish

MargieFancypants

In the middle of frothing about trans elders, Margie made a startling admission. Since HRT made him feel younger, he’s taken the next logical step.

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Once you’ve discarded one biological fact, why not others?

Our trans elders deserve enormous respect, and all of you have it in spades from me.

Our elders are PRECISELY the people that made it possible to exist openly and safely — in some places anyway — and fought through all the misery of Premarin and others predating bioidentical hormones being available.

Christine, Martha, Sylvia — these people made the medical and legal existence POSSIBLE that these youngins take for granted.

Ageism is one of the few holdouts of bigotry in the trans community. It grinds my gears (and I am, after all, an actual machinist) that these people get all TERFy at their siblings only for the crime of living long!

I find these behaviours appalling, and I'm still well under sixty orbits! (A lady doesn't state her age. Wait, that's bullshit. Besides, I am a woman, not a lady....)

Fight ageism. Point out that it's some young people who can't see the problem... just as some white people can't see racism, or some wealthy people see poverty, or some cis people see transphobia....... are we establishing a pattern here?

I can't imagine a better way to spend my fifties than as a pubescent girl. In your FACES, ageists! I identify as 32, because that's how I feel and it's biologically mostly accurate. Age is just as much a social construct as gender. Dammit!

To our elders: thank you for the best parts of our world. I think of you every time I see a brick. 😁

He actually wrote, ”To our elders: thank you for the best parts of our world. I think of you every time I see a brick. 😁

It’s a Christmas miracle.

Murray AKA Margie is a New Zealand-born Canadian who trooned out when his wife was pregnant with their non-binary baby who is actually their son, Amihan. Despite being a man with HIV, Murray took drugs to lactate and feed his son. Those efforts failed, thank Allah. He is, of course, also in a polycule. The below is taken from an excellent post by @The Skeksis Emperor

Murray Pearson (Margarita Fancypants, 52) and Deann Louise C. Nardo (age unknown) are a couple from Montreal, Quebec. They've been in a relationship since 2014, when Murray first appears on Louise's instagram. By all accounts a normal leftist couple who loved pop culture and cats, they spent a lot of time in an arts and crafts workshop. Deann especially is creative, and makes furniture among other things. Murray had a son and at least two daughters from whom he is estranged.

A few years ago this couple fell down the ultra-woke rabbit hole. Deann is desperately trying to be native Canadian while she and her family are Filipino. She surrounds herself with Filipino pooners and starts writing zines. Murray starts doing troon shit and troons out. There are no real indications in Deann's photos that he was ever feminine. I can only conclude that the Internet and the pandemic did a number on both of them. They are now both activist zealots all about that racial justice and whatever else is hip on TikTok.

beer, hormones, moobs, and an innocent baby
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