Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

We don’t know because Russ didn’t even say what they can show (a requirement).

Though way waaaay back when pleading the return from Florida he admitted who the witnesses would be and what they would show (trauma lumps).

 

[mindlessobserver]

If the book is signed by Null and Mr. Hardin, and has the cover be something different (image of the judgement, KF logo, Null giving the middle finger, etc), I'd buy it. I'd probably be overpaying it, but it'd be a novelty item, so I don't mind.

"Why I sued Taylor Swift", with a foreword by Joshua Moon. I'd buy it.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

I guess I don't even understand the proposed witnesses. What could they possibly testify about in this case, even theoretically?

They have no personal knowledge of alleged infringing occurring. So they are no help proving his case. Let's say the court finds contributory copyright infringement. The plaintiff ideally needs a damages expert to assess the potential lost revenue caused by the naughty poasters (something he seemingly has waived with his latest disclosure). Hurt feelings or psychological distress from copyright infringement can't be compensated- its not a IIED case (which I think was in the original complaint).

So even if get past the fact the Rule 26 disclosure is late and completely inadequate- shouldn't the witnesses be excluded for total lack of relevance?

That's the tragedy of this case. Any person of reasonable mind can see that the entire point is to cause financial damage to a party that has not committed any crime or tort. But I guess because the 10th circuit is corrupted and retarded, this strategy works. We can't think about Greer's case as if there is any logic to it, all we can do is hope that the judge eventually gets sick enough of this shit and puts a stop to it. Massive rainbows, though.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

I guess I don't even understand the proposed witnesses. What could they possibly testify about in this case, even theoretically?

I wouldn't be surprised if Russ included them specifically in the hope that someone would harass his family members so that he could complain about it in his filings or to the court to show how evil Joshua Moon is and why the court should rule in Greer's favor even though it has nothing to do with the lawsuit he brought.

It's not as though he had any real witnesses anyway and he'd look incredibly stupid if he didn't have anyone after all of the stonewalling and complaining he did.

 

[Lubby Smith]

I haven't posted recently since we aren't allowed to give Greer any legal strategy (like bringing an in rem suit under admiralty jurisdiction against JOSHUA MOON, a corporation, on account of the gold fringes on the flags), but I'm compelled to comment on the court calling Greer "recalcitrant."

Recalcitrant, you see, comes from the Latin "recalcitrare" meaning to kick back. Originally it was used exclusively to describe beasts, in particular the stubborn mule. (Pliny the Elder recommended giving wine to mules to alleviate their recalcitrance.)


Coincidence? I think not. The magistrate is our guy. Dismissal incoming. Two more weeks. Trust the plan.

 

[TooManyKittens]

Not gonna lie, if this gets tossed I would definitely pay good money for a print out of the order autographed by Hardin and Null.
I would keep it in a clear backed frame with something normie on the front and that on the back.

Hell no offense to null but id buy it with just Hardins autograph.

Freeze peaches are important.

It probably won't happen. The judge loves Russ too much. But I absolutely would.

 

[Bogliacci]

I wouldn't be surprised if Russ included them specifically in the hope that someone would harass his family members so that he could complain about it in his filings or to the court to show how evil Joshua Moon is and why the court should rule in Greer's favor even though it has nothing to do with the lawsuit he brought.

That's actually the exact thought I had as well earlier today thinking about why he would do this. He doesn't just have a rat face, but he's also a rat through and through.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

Given that Hardin is Useful_Mistake is Azula, I really want to see the man bend lightning. I don't know how. I don't know why. I just want to see such a thing happen live on video.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

His copyrights are generally worthless but maybe people would buy the Swift book for fun if the money doesn't go to Russ... and maybe there's some "if I did it" changes like when OJ had to hand over his copyright

Unironically if jersh ended up with the rights and wrote a foreword (or forced Hardin to write one) for it and then had copies printed for a merch run I would pay an unreasonable amount of money for it

 

[Harm]

Big fan of this particular Hardin email and it being capped off with a "Merry Christmas."



Also, considering that literally all he sent was two names (presumably close relatives) and their phone number at 2 in the morning, he has to be filing these late on purpose, and that's brilliant of him. Hopefully he continues this expert legal strategy.

 

[DavidS877]

Big fan of this particular Hardin email and it being capped off with a "Merry Christmas."

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Also, considering that literally all he sent was two names (presumably close relatives) and their phone number at 2 in the morning, he has to be filing these late on purpose, and that's brilliant of him. Hopefully he continues this expert legal strategy.

I have one problem with this. As this is a multi-timezone case Hardin should be specific as to which"noon" he's talking about to ward off Greer's inevitable "I was there at noon but Hardin never arrived."

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

In lieu of someone sending Russell another picture of Hitler to try and get this case going, can we just send him @StinkySnack profile picture instead?

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[reactionary]

Fed. R. Civ. P. 26 (a)(1)(A)(i)(e)(i)(e)(i)(o)

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I have one problem with this. As this is a multi-timezone case Hardin should be specific as to which"noon" he's talking about to ward off Greer's inevitable "I was there at noon but Hardin never arrived."

Noon is always high noon, guns drawn, lawdog!

 

[.iota.]

russell greer is a lying liar who lies.

on may 28th, 2024, after the case was transferred to florida, greer filed his initial rule 26 disclosures (dated incorrectly, of course, with a submission date of may 2nd and a service date of the 15th). in this document, he states that he has "witnesses who have witnessed the intentional copyright infringement by Kiwi Farms and the emotional toll it has taken on Plaintiff". he refuses to provide names or contact info except "upon a stipulation with defendants’ counsel that the witnesses would be provided under seal and names not published onto the kiwi farms’ website".

Spoiler: may 28th disclosures

sound familiar?
it should; it's the same document that he submitted again on december 4th, 2024 (dated december 3rd).

Spoiler: december 4th disclosures

however, while he was in the midst of haranguing courts on both sides of the country regarding the transfer to florida, one of his arguments was that florida was an improper venue because it's inconvenient to his witnesses. he states that he "HAS REAL [yes, in all caps] witnesses who are eager to testify to the devastation Kiwi Farms has caused to Greer's intellectual property and works", and that "Florida is too far for these witnesses". he lists his father and "Steve Taylor" as witnesses, and states that "there are more witnesses that would be called and summoned for a trial":


unfortunately, of all of greer's arguments for why the case should not have been transferred to florida, the judge - this judge - denied all of them except one; that utah was the appropriate venue for the convenience of witnesses, and that the defense did not adequately show that florida would be more convenient. utah vacated its own transfer decision on the basis of greer's written statements regarding his previously undisclosed witnesses:


to be clear, mr. hardin had no way of doing any of the above, as greer had refused to provide even initial disclosures at that point. the first mention of his "REAL witnesses" was in the motion to retransfer that the florida judge noped right the fuck out of by ordering that the case be sent back to utah for the utah court to reconsider. the case was returned, the judge - this judge - agreed with greer on only one of his myriad arguments, the convenience of his witnesses, whom he clearly named and enumerated, and solely because of that, the transfer was vacated.

then greer returns to form by refusing to disclose his witnesses, and submits the exact same rule 26 disclosure as if nothing had happened. when the judge finally threatens sanctions or dismissal, greer only produces two witnesses, only one of whom was mentioned in the filing that previously swayed the court - this court - to allow him his choice of venue. so was he lying about his witnesses then, or is he lying about them now? or is he just a lying liar who lies?

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[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Sounds like the proper solution is to send the case back to Florida.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

I guess I don't even understand the proposed witnesses. What could they possibly testify about in this case, even theoretically?

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[The I Scream Man]

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What happens now

You hopefully get threadbanned

 

[Bridgeburner]

I know that nothing ever happens, but I'm being cautiosly optimistic about the next couple of weeks. Judge did threaten him with dismissal and Russ's only focus is getting $250 from Null. Not sure how he can produce absolutely nothing during this phase and not piss off the judge.

Kinda seems like he thinks that's the best he can get out of all this and it's enough for a sad blowjob at some truck stop brothel.

 

[Bogliacci]

I know that nothing ever happens, but I'm being cautiosly optimistic about the next couple of weeks. Judge did threaten him with dismissal and Russ's only focus is getting $250 from Null. Not sure how he can produce absolutely nothing during this phase and not piss off the judge.

Kinda seems like he thinks that's the best he can get out of all this and it's enough for a sad blowjob at some truck stop brothel.

That $225 will be the seed money to start his brothel resort