People who are against AI and other scientific advancements are fucking retarded.

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Google is buying SIX nuclear reactors to power their AI and this is only the early days. Every major power on Earth will be competing to harness the greatest machine super-intelligence possible. People can be against it all they want.
It's going to get messy.
 
I dislike that folks assume an AI has any real interest in humans. Heck, I'd imagine a being of higher intellect created by humans would rather go explore space then lower itself to the level of humans as far as violence or some sort of other singularity scenario. Just because we can think it doesn't mean it will think same way as we do. Current generation AI is only as smart as the smartest human being in any one subject; provided that information is collectively fed into whatever AI model you're making. It is also along that same logic that there will be a uniqueness between AIs that experience different events and environments which could also lead to conflict that might be resolved in miliseconds. Anyway, coming back to reality, AI is being implemented in many facets of life such as physics, medical, engineering, weather, anything that requires massive amount of data analysis and it ain't going anywhere soon.
 
AI as is popularly understood is a retarded fantasy that’s only gained traction because of an anomalous leap in technology. Better off asking people how they feel about the potential of Elves replacing jobs.
 
SpigotTheBear said:
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I'm not going to trust a man who thought he could defeat Trump in an election for republican candidate as a nobody, to remake humanity or acheive anything close.

Transhumanism is fundamentally a good idea, such a condition is the inevitable result of Kali Yuga, but if it can be achieved, government will be the last sector to do it through, it will most probably be done by someone who achieves success in business or banking, like Thiel, Musk, or Beal, and decides to invest a ton of resources to making the technology possible and accessible through even unethical means if necessary, until it becomes so widespread and useful that government has no choice but to go along.

If your goal is to achieve this, all kinds of activism and propaganda is fundamentally worthless, atleast while the tech is just vaporware. Become an engineer or a try to put yourself into a position where you can make it happen instead, instead of getting humiliated in internet arguments.
 
Mnutu said:
AI as is popularly understood is a retarded fantasy that’s only gained traction because of an anomalous leap in technology. Better off asking people how they feel about the potential of Elves replacing jobs.
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You clearly don't understand AI if you think it's a retarded fantasy. It's like being in the 90s and saying the idea of millions of people owning cell phones that go online and are several times faster than the best supercomputers is a fantasy. It isn't to anyone who knows what they're talking about.

AI is going to replace tens of millions of jobs within 20 years, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it beside crash modern civilization as we know it. AI will eliminate whatever remains of privacy and be used to finish the reduction of humanity into nothing but a collection of information for our "betters" (globalist billionaires and corporations) to control.
BrodyDaMan said:
I'm not going to trust a man who thought he could defeat Trump in an election for republican candidate as a nobody, to remake humanity or acheive anything close.

Transhumanism is fundamentally a good idea, such a condition is the inevitable result of Kali Yuga, but if it can be achieved, government will be the last sector to do it through, it will most probably be done by someone who achieves success in business or banking, like Thiel, Musk, or Beal, and decides to invest a ton of resources to making the technology possible and accessible through even unethical means if necessary, until it becomes so widespread and useful that government has no choice but to go along.
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Thiel and Musk are tied to the hip with the government. The CIA (IN-Q-TEL) is a major investor in their startups. This isn't a matter of genius billionaires dragging the government (which is just a front for global billionaires like the WEF and Bilderbergs anyway) with them, it's the government doing it's job and picking genius billionaires to carry out their work for them. And this work is pure evil.

And you're absolutely insane if you think transhumanism is a good idea. Transhumanism is the world the WEF wants. Transhumanism is getting plugged into a computer and becoming nothing but a mindless slave to whatever the computers running us (be they intelligent AI or just algorithms the elite use) think makes us happy. Transhumanism is corporations beaming ads into your eyes and dreams (go look up brain-computer interfaces like the work of Ian Akyildiz, Josep Jornet, and CCP spy Charles Lieber). Transhumanism is literal transspeciesism where people will turn themselves into literal furries. Transhumanism is transgenderism--look up "Martine" Rothblatt, a transhumanist billionaire and WEF member who trooned out early on and practically launched the modern transgenderist movement. In addition to dumping tens of millions on all sorts of gender ideology orgs, Rothblatt is a huge investor in transhumanism. There is literally nothing on this planet more evil than transhumanism, and right now, evil is winning.
 
I'm against AI being used the way it is because I fear the loss of creativity in how people learn and process the world.
To just make images or text as a novelty toy, I really don't care. It's not going to beat true human creativity, but it can be nice to experiment with and see how the ai """"thinks"""" when it creates an image. Sometimes really funny shit happens.

Where I get very, very scared is when AI tech is pushing people to use it in place of talking with a real human. I already hate chatbot systems with customer service, but take a look at this:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-21/new-ai-tool-in-education-aspires-to-have-all-the-answers-for-l-a-students

They're trying to get kids to come to an AI when they need help with schooling or whatever instead of having them talk to their teachers or counselors like they would be normally.
Taking the human element completely out of the equation and replacing it with a system solely focused on giving you the answer only as dry and quick as possible... no thanks. I would much much rather my child ask me, or ask their favorite teacher, or a counselor that is trained with helping out people and has experience with talking in human language. And these are for some of the poorest kids, which already have lives that might be terrible already.

AI can be very helpful, yes, but it's also too easy for people to see a way to save on the dollar and replace the spectrum of thought of real life humans with the dry soulless garbage of GPT-esque learning and telling. AI is not just hitting human artists, it's coming after our children too. (thankfully, this particular effort crashed and burned before it got started)
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
OP is a faggot, but people against technological advancement are retarded because they just hope no other power reaches the advancements first and enslaves them by using it.
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The world absolutely can band together and outlaw certain things. Notice how restricted and covert slavery is nowadays, or how research into nuclear weapons is heavily restricted. Russia and the US had every incentive to cheat each other on nuclear treaties and make insane shit like 3rd/4th generation nukes yet never did and even downscaled their arsenals.

Beside, worst case scenario we start WW3 and make a world government whose sole reason for existence is stopping people from inventing more technology like AI, gain of function viruses, transhumanist research, etc. That would be the one justifiable and moral reason to start a global war, because the risk of WW3 to humanity is far less than the risk future technology poses.
jray4559 said:
Where I get very, very scared is when AI tech is pushing people to use it in place of talking with a real human. I already hate chatbot systems with customer service, but take a look at this:
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The future of the internet is you talking with AI chatbots, forever. The Dead Internet is going to get a whole lot deader.
 
Save the Loli said:
The world absolutely can band together and outlaw certain things. Notice how restricted and covert slavery is nowadays, or how research into nuclear weapons is heavily restricted. Russia and the US had every incentive to cheat each other on nuclear treaties and make insane shit like 3rd/4th generation nukes yet never did and even downscaled their arsenals.
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Slavery is much alive and is just underreported, not to mention it also renamed with illegal immigrants being exploited (not to mention it's not a technology). Ditto the only country retarded enough to let go of its nuclear arsenal (Ukraine) is being assfucked for the last two years by Russia. Nukes themselves just reached the point that there is no reason in making them stronger or more numerous while superpowers band together to keep their exclusive access to them.
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Beside, worst case scenario we start WW3 and make a world government whose sole reason for existence is stopping people from inventing more technology like AI, gain of function viruses, transhumanist research, etc. That would be the one justifiable and moral reason to start a global war, because the risk of WW3 to humanity is far less than the risk future technology poses.
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It's an idea taken straight from Dune and doesn't make sense. Post WW1 European countries massively went into anti war sentiment and that made them vulnerable to Nazi Germany full on war machine. Post WW2 European countries are going into anti nationalism sentiments and now their citizens rights and culture are being eroded.

Humanity isn't a single actor.
 
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Even that's exaggerating it. At the moment, AI is a very fast but unreliable helper that lies and hallucinates nonsense almost as often as it provides you with real information super quickly.

If that were a human employee, any sane employer would fire their ass the first day.
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It did make a lot of pictures of Trump protecting kittens, though.
 
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he was so real for this thoughbeit

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I think AI is great and has a lot of potential. Unfortunately we are trying our hardest to fuck it up. Rather than utilizing it to make various advancements across numerous industries, the (((powers that be))) only give a shit about increasing surveillance and cut labor. We are worried about making sure AI doesn’t consider a nigger to be recognized as a monkey. I have no doubt some are working to utilize it in the way that I’d like but if all they’re going to do is produce shitty products so they can trim 25% of their labor force, then it needs to be taken out of their hands.
 
SpigotTheBear said:
I find that most unintelligent people or unsuccessful people tend to have an irrational hatred or fear towards any sort of technology.
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Intelligent people understand what technology is but they also see, like your ‘unintelligent’ what technology does . Technology is a tool and like any tool it can be used for different purposes. A knife can cut food and defend you or it can be used for murder. Electronics have brought us some good things like… errr… well I’ll think of something I’m sure but they’ve also brought us surveillance and given the people who rule us a huge ability to control us. Medical tech has brought us antibiotics and hygiene and it’s also produced rotdogs and troons.
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Think of a world where people no longer have to piss, shit, vomit, or feel pain.
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It would be crap. Part of being human is struggle.
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Think of how fucking awesome that would be.
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It wouldn’t. Humanity needs adversity and struggle. Look how fat, useless and domesticated we are already just with iPhones and Netflix.

We should be using tech to help us struggle against more fun and bigger things, like colonising the solar system. Using it to turn us into pod people in a constant state of bliss will kill us.
 
I am against wearable tech like AI glasses and Google Glass because I find them annoying but I cant think of any coherent law that could be put in place to ban the thing I find annoying.

I think I would have been happy living with 2007-level technology forever but agree that people getting upset over image and text generators are weird. CGI, After Effects, Photoshop, etc. have been able to generate stuff with minimal user input for years image generators are just faster and require even less user direction.

And text generators are just rephrasing stuff from articles they've scraped, again something that has been around for like a decade only it used to always come out in broken English like it was written by pajeet and now it finally sounds vaguely human.

Either way I don't see what the big deal is. People act like because AI exists they are now not allowed to draw or write.
 
Also this assumes we can actually make real AI. We dont understand what consciousness even is, how it comes into being. What we have at the moment (publicly anyway, goodness knows what the military has) is a very fast language model. It’s not intelligent. It’s useless for a lot of stuff and very useful for some things but it’s not intelligent. It’s not even sure we can make an artificial intelligence.

Humanity is misusing technology- it should be a tool to serve us, and instead it’s a weapon being used against us. That’s a problem with our rulers, perhaps rather than tech itself, but maybe it’s an inherent risk with any technological progress.
(Uncle Ted, while wrong to bomb randoms , may have been right on a few other things, is what I’m saying.)
 
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