War Iran launches dozens of ballistic missiles toward Israel - umerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

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A memorial for Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in Tehran. Photo: Hossein Beris/Middle East Images/AFP via Getty

Iran launched around 100 ballistic missiles toward Israel the first wave of an attack on Tuesday, with a second wave now underway, Israeli officials say.

State of play: Numerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

The big picture: Tehran has been vowing retaliation after a series of recent Israeli assassinations. That retaliation is now be underway.
  • "A short time ago missiles were launched from Iran into the territory of the State of Israel," an IDF spokesperson said. "You are asked to be vigilant and act exactly according to the instructions of the Home Front Command. The IDF is doing and will do everything necessary to protect the citizens of the State of Israel."
  • The Israeli Security Cabinet is convened at the government bunker near Jerusalem, Israeli officials said.
  • There has been no confirmation yet of any casualties inside Israel.
Driving the news: The missile launches came hours after the White House warned that a ballistic missile attack was imminent.
  • "We are actively supporting defensive preparations to defend Israel against this attack. A direct military attack from Iran against Israel will carry severe consequences for Iran," a senior White House official said prior to the attack.
  • The U.S. first warned Israel of the impending attack around noon local time (5am ET), a senior Israeli official said.
  • The use of ballistic missiles makes this a more difficult attack for Israel to defend against than the Iranian drone and missile attack last April — Iran's first-ever direct attack on Israeli territory — which was largely repelled by Israel and its partners, led by the U.S.
  • Ballistic missiles can reach Israel within 12 minutes, while drones and cruise missiles leave more time to defend against.
Driving the news: The warnings of an imminent attack came just hours after Israel escalated its conflict with Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia, by launching a ground invasion of southern Lebanon.
  • Iran has been promising retaliation against Israel for two months, since the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran.
  • Iran had yet to respond to that attack, and also rebuffed urging from Hezbollah to launch an attack against Israel within the past two weeks, Axios reported.
  • U.S. and Israeli officials had been concerned that the Israeli ground invasion and the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah — a longtime ally of Iran's supreme leader — would push Iran to change course and get more directly involved to save the militia it has armed and supported for decades.
  • Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke Tuesday with his Israeli counterpart, Yoav Gallant, shortly before the Iranian attack began.
What they're saying: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened security consultations on Tuesday morning and said in a statement: "We are in the midst of a campaign against Iran's axis of evil. We must stand together. We will stand firm together in the challenging days ahead."
  • Ahead of the attack, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Adm. Daniel Hagari said: "Our air defense systems are fully prepared and air force jets are patrolling the sky. We are at peak readiness in offense and defense together with our partners from the U.S. and are following the developments in Iran together. An Iranian attack on Israel will have consequences."
  • Secretary of State Tony Blinken said at the top of his meeting with the foreign minister of Morocco that the U.S. is closely following the situation in the Middle East and is committed to Israel's security.
  • Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei offered no hint of how Iran would respond to Friday's attack that killed Nasrallah and a senior Iranian general beyond saying the "criminal" Israeli government would "regret its actions."
Flashback: Iran launched a massive drone and missile attack against Israel in April in retaliation for another Israeli airstrike that killed a top Iranian general in Syria.
  • Most of the drones and missiles were intercepted by Israeli, U.S., British, French, Jordanian and Saudi forces outside of Israeli airspace, and there were several injuries in Israel but no fatalities.
This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

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Does this thread have anything to do with Iran or Israel? I was hoping to see more videos or proof of the strikes hitting something.
 
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CharlesBarkley said:
Thinking about it, would Russia support Iran if they caused enough damage and deaths to spark a regional war? I'm pretty sure they got their hands full with Ukraine at the moment.
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Ukraine allies would also get distracted. Giving missiles to Israel so less stuff to Ukraine, Migrant crisis due to lebanese and Iranians escaping the war. Lebanon is very close to europe and Iran has like 90 million inhabitants , the population of Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
 
Gruntgar The Indentured said:
Absolutely true. 2:20 for the chink steel
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vnus2zLPJnA:89
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That is a heat treat problem btw, among other things. They can't even properly heat treat a hammer, which is a process that was perfected... id say 20's is when the US truly figured it out. But as you can see, even by 1900 they had made significant advancements. Other problems i could think of would be the alloy itself, too soft for a hammer.
 
Looks like the moloch worshippers turned off the iron dome to get a photo-op of minor destruction to escalate things.

Hope you drafting age kiwis have a plan, or gear up to die for greater israel! As Bibi said in the 90s, 'America is a golden calf' they can use for whatever they wish.
 
TJT said:
It stuns me how many retards out there think the USMIL in 2024 is in any way analogous to the USMIL in 1941.

Sure are a lot of you though. To a man none of you have ever even been in the army either. Which makes it even more hilarious.
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No one said that you butthurt retard

The US military relative to the rest of the world is far stronger in 2024 than the US military was in 1941 though

You're thinking of 1943 or 1944
 
WelperHelper99 said:
I think it depends on how much damage Iran actually did tbh. Reading the other thread, it seems that they're nuclear material facilities are on the table. Probably going to see those bombed to dust at the very least.
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The nuclear facilities are definitely on the table. They're also near the border with Armenia. So they might catch some strays or some "strays". Israel arms Azerbaijan who is Armenia's main enemy. So we might get a 5th country/territory (after Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran) caught up in the fun.
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
I just got off the phone to America and asked them how Iraq worked out for them. All I got back was some mumbling about 'mission accomplished',
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The blood that was spilled in Iraq was foretold by General Norman Schwarzkopf:
And, oh, by the way, I think we'd still be there. We'd be like a dinosaur in a tar pit. We could not have gotten out and we'd still be the occupying power and we'd be paying 100 percent of all the costs to administer all of Iraq.
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-After the first Persian Gulf War. His advice was not heeded in Afghanistan.
The whole issue of Afghanistan is that the concept of the nation state was and still is alien to most of the sand niggers that live there. It might seem strange now but when the U.S. was founded, people tended associate with their state more than viewing themselves as a citizen of the United States.

It was only around the time of the civil war and transcontinental railroad did the idea of national consciousness take root. With Afghanistan, they have a tribal viewpoint rather than a national one. That why the Afghan National Army abandoned their posts. The only reason they joined was to get money. This is why we had these funny and sad training videos:

We couldn't have won Afghanistan or Vietnam because the people themselves didn't want to be part of a state created by a foreign entity. We fought with one arm tied behind our back for their hearts and minds but failed.
 
draggs said:
Is this why Russia is buying missiles and drones from Iran and just did a deal a few months ago with North Korea where North Korea got money, oil, natural gas, various bits of Russian military and other technology, things like train locomotives etc., and Russia got 2 million artillery shells + some ballistic missiles? Because Russian production of war materiel is more than 10x America's?
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Russia buys drones from Iran because Iran makes extremely effective drones for cheap. Russia buys artillery shells from North Korea because North Korea makes extremely effective artillery shells for cheap. Why would Russia divert it's military production away from hypersonic missiles, fighter jets, tanks, artillery canons, firearms, etc in order to make drones and artillery shells themselves when they can just buy it for cheap from Iran and North Korea?
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US manufacturing in 2023 contributed $2.9 trillion to GDP
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I'm sure those numbers will make Americans proud as they struggle to retool what factories do exist to manufacture overpriced MIC boondoggle weapons.
 
Got Milk! said:
The nuclear facilities are definitely on the table. They're also near the border with Armenia. So they might catch some strays or some "strays". Israel arms Azerbaijan who is Armenia's main enemy. So we might get a 5th country/territory (after Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran) caught up in the fun.
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That could happen. It depends on what kind of attack they launch. If they launch their own ballistic missiles, which they have, strays could wander into Armenia. If its airstrikes with guided bombs, probably not. It really depends on how "full force" Isreal wants to go.
TJT said:
Sure thing. Continue your sperging and LARPING amigo.
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We didn't have over 1000 nuclear bombs in 1941.
 
TJT said:
You would have a very serious problem just getting to Iran to fight them.
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It depends on how combat operations are carried out. Israel did a raid into Iran back in 2022 with F-35s and the Iranians didn't even know what was happening until the raid was over. Iran is heavily susceptible to aerial incursions.

Even if we're talking about boots on the ground, the US managed to get tens of thousands of troops into Afghanistan. Afghanistan is east of Iran.
TJT said:
Second, the USA does not have the resources to even do another Iraq in 2024. In the 1990s we had over 600k uniformed servicemen in the country. In 2008 at the height of the lol Surge we didn't even have 200k uniformed servicemen in the entire country, and we are unable to repeat that today.
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You can't bring up Iraq and then act like troop numbers are the end-all, be-all. Iraq had over 450,000 personnel when the US invaded Iraq in March 2003. The US had 192,000 active personnel in the country at that time. The Iraqis absolutely got their asses kicked. Major combat operations ended within three months.

In conventional warfare, when you put a higher-advanced force like the US military up against a lesser-advanced force like the Iraqi military, the higher-advanced force is much more likely to win. This is an established concept in modern combat, the US actually taught the Iraqis this lesson twice. This is why groups like the Taliban and the Viet Cong employed asymmetrical warfare against the US military. You can't beat the US in conventional warfare, which has, on a side note, contributed significantly to the nuclear strategy of Russia and China.

The US has 1.328 million active personnel. The US has eleven aircraft carriers, that alone is a huge example of its ability to project force anywhere in the world.

If your concern is economics, here's where my autism is going to kick in and I'm going to crunch some numbers. Bear with me.

"Oh, well, the US could never pull that off today" isn't supported by the numbers. People were saying the same thing in the 1930s when tensions were ramping up and everyone was expecting Germany to pull a Great War Part 2: Deutsch Boogaloo. History and economics just don't support that idea. While it's true the US doesn't have as many manufacturing jobs as it used to, American manufacturing jobs have been on an uptick for several years at this point. The recovery and growth is there.
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And even then, industrial output has gotten ridiculously higher. The Industrial Production Index for May 2024 is astronomically higher than in September 1944, the height of wartime industrial output. Matter of fact, the IPI went from 4 in January 1933 to 17 in September 1944. That's an increase of 325%. The IPI went from 17 in September 1944 to 103 in May 2024. That's an increase of 506%. Yes, that's a much longer timeframe, but it's still a significantly higher IPI. Remember, IPI measures physical output, not financial output.
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Here's the GDP spending for state, federal and local governments between 1929 and 2017. The US spent way less of its GDP to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq than it did to fight in Europe and Asia.
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So yeah, the idea that the United States can't mount an effective overseas campaign isn't supported by economic data. A full-scale war with a massive industrial ramp-up is still absolutely possible today. One can even assert by the data that the US is at a better point to industrially support its military now than it was in the 1940s. None of this is taking into account the foreign suppliers the US has.
 
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