AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

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Artists are still eating up the nightshade garbage.

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The Thinking Abacus said:
Artists are still eating up the nightshade garbage.

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Fag Alert Major Fag Alert said:
It's like boomers trying to understand what the internet even is. I'm embarrassed reading these discord comments
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In order to get a full perspective of ai discussion, we have to go back to the anons at 4chan.
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Here's the anon burning in hell:
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Fag Alert Major Fag Alert said:
It's like boomers trying to understand what the internet even is. I'm embarrassed reading these discord comments
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it's impressive just how low the computer literacy (a word tainted by "media literacy" tumblr faggots) of the usual web artist is today. 30, 25 years ago it wasn't unusual for them to at least know their way around a computer without much hassle, specially when it comes to art software. now they believe as much as ai skitzos do that the computer is alive and will take away everyone's jobs, and fight back by doing esoteric bullshit and buying snake oil that has virtually no effect on anything.
 
jakkufurosuto said:
it's impressive just how low the computer literacy (a word tainted by "media literacy" tumblr faggots) of the usual web artist is today. 30, 25 years ago it wasn't unusual for them to at least know their way around a computer without much hassle, specially when it comes to art software. now they believe as much as ai skitzos do that the computer is alive and will take away everyone's jobs, and fight back by doing esoteric bullshit and buying snake oil that has virtually no effect on anything.
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If there is a utility you want to find for programming, chances are you'd find an open-source project that already exists, with at least one or two people supporting it. This is not the case for many creative projects outside of Blender or Krita, I have a hard time finding a decent open-source alternative to many adobe products, they are functional but there is very little interest in making it a proper competitor to proprietary software.

I always assumed that these programs don't exist because people would rather just pirate them, but honestly I met people in the creative industry through my family and they seem like they still think piracy is a taboo or they don't know piracy well enough that they rather pay for the full product. People are just generally technologically illiterate, people in the creative field is no different.
 
AI is literally Hitler: A video essay

Fag Alert Major Fag Alert said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=K597aNilm3c
I found this interesting video online
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3d is a lot more technical than it is artistic and I'm surprised ai is relatively underdeveloped here. I'm already getting chat gpt to write great rig scripts for me and more skilled people than I can probably do a lot more with it. it's already easy enough to replicate a 3d style with image/video generators, but once these programs can figure out optimized UVs and topology then game artists are done. AAA does not give a single fuck about those asshats, especially when all they do is bitch and moan about everything. will be a boon to solo devs though. although it's only a matter of time before the entire pipeline gets automated and we get flooded with fully slopped projects. probably gonna be mostly coomer games too
 
Elite Kipchak said:
AI is literally Hitler: A video essay
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XAOXS6lB-sI

3d is a lot more technical than it is artistic and I'm surprised ai is relatively underdeveloped here. I'm already getting chat gpt to write great rig scripts for me and more skilled people than I can probably do a lot more with it. it's already easy enough to replicate a 3d style with image/video generators, but once these programs can figure out optimized UVs and topology then game artists are done. AAA does not give a single fuck about those asshats, especially when all they do is bitch and moan about everything. will be a boon to solo devs though. although it's only a matter of time before the entire pipeline gets automated and we get flooded with fully slopped projects. probably gonna be mostly coomer games too
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I heard there's like whole types of ai whose sole purpose is to create optimized shapes for certain items.
Look at this freaky-looking rocket nozzle
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And the parts of this car
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What they have in common? they're designed by AI to be as optimized and efficient as possible in doing the one thing they have.

As it stands, AI is extremely good at going from one point to the other. I can say the same about self-driving car but there's a lot more to driving than simply going from point A to point B.
I can imagine the part designers being a little peeved that there's the fancy-schmancy AI, but i have never seen them vocally complain about it.
3d artists? Almost no complains other than that one video, but that's the extend of visible seething.

Also, for the slop game projects, there's precedence in asset flip games (i.e. buying stock assets from the asset marketplace, slap some code in them, and arrange them to be something vaguely gamelike). I can imagine the lazy bastards go one step further and skip the asset flipping and generate slop assets to then have their codes generated on them so they can then be given to the ai whose whole purpose is to make games and ask them to figure it out.
 
Miss Violet Beauregarde said:
I heard there's like whole types of ai whose sole purpose is to create optimized shapes for certain items.
Look at this freaky-looking rocket nozzle
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to be fair, I'm pretty sure the "AI" used to create hyper-optimized shapes like the whats shown above are fundamentally different from the neural networks used in AI art, chatbots, etc. Computer-generated design has been around for quite a while, long before ChatGPT and its derivatives really took off. its comparing apples to oranges in terms of difference.
I could be totally out of touch on this though, it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow implemented neural networks into the design process somehow.
 
Autistic Gunspergings said:
to be fair, I'm pretty sure the "AI" used to create hyper-optimized shapes like the whats shown above are fundamentally different from the neural networks used in AI art, chatbots, etc.
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I don't think the anti-ai crowd would care. For them, ai is ai, no matter what kind of ai they are. It's pretty unlikely for me but it's possible that a game will implement npcs with advanced ai (as in, the algorithm that dictactes how the npcs acts and reacts to its surroundings. Basically giving the enemies that fights you their behaviour and attacks) and there's going to be some anti-ai activists who demands the devs to "STOP USING AI ITS BAD GO PICK UP A PENCIL".
Unlikely because (despite the very little faith i had in them) i dont think they'll be stupid enough to protest over windmills (both figuratively and literally). It'll look bad on their cause.
 
AI should be called called Automated Problem Solving or something to that effect. Just the term 'AI' carries too many connotations from science fiction and muddies the waters in people's understanding of it.
 
I actually think the term AI is just fine. Image/art creation and language use are both things that require intelligence to do. Artificial Intelligence simply means a simulated, man-made form of intelligence. Basic NPC ai in games is even AI, since it's an attempt to crudely simulate intelligence.
Sci-fi has just made everyone think AI only means sentient computers.
 
I personally like AI because fuck paying some pretentious dickhead with a pencil a days worth of pay for a fucking sketch, and fuck paying said dickhead even more for an image I'm going to use for one throwaway meme.
 
I'm most excited for some autist to make an AI that can play games, and talk to you or another AI while doing it. I would derive infinite amusement from forcing fucked up charicatures of political and historical figures play games cooperatively or competitively together. Or making a schizophrenic AI to play games with so me and my friends can be dumfounded by its bizarre actions and quotes.
 
gagabobo1997 said:
I actually think the term AI is just fine. Image/art creation and language use are both things that require intelligence to do. Artificial Intelligence simply means a simulated, man-made form of intelligence. Basic NPC ai in games is even AI, since it's an attempt to crudely simulate intelligence.
Sci-fi has just made everyone think AI only means sentient computers.
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It's less that the term isn't accurate (because it is if you're not psychotic) and more that the word intelligence being included makes normies (meaning people not developing it or with deep knowledge of how it works) assume it's autonomous and sentient and tAkIng oUr jObs. That's why I switched to just calling it LLMs when it's text based. I still say AI art though, not sure what a proper term for that is.

Another reason why the "intelligence" part is grating to me is because computers are fucking retarded and AI assistants are super easy to fuck with, but everyone losing their minds over the AIpocalypse seriously thinks the intelligence is literal human intelligence.
 
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