It's not that they don't, it's that they are one of the countries that made machine learning training on copyrighted work fair use. I have no clue if Japanese people like or hate AI, but I feel like the fact China is pushing hard for AI and Japan's known aging populating and labor shortage will affect how the average Japanese people attitude towards AI.
AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities
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I used to be more apprehensive towards AI art, then I read more and saw more result. I am fine with it, at the very least it creates lolcalfs who whine about how they're not accepted by other artists which is even funnier to me. Artist who use AI for work are understandable, people who enjoy generating AI artwork are fine, people who think that they generated anime girl or pretty generic girl in field #69000 makes them the next art world sensation and should be totally accepted by the cool artists table are hilarious.
I'm more concerned with how it might affect video and news, as well as how people use it for things it might not yet be ready for, like crisis hotlines.
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There's a precedence in using voice synthesizer for crisis hotlines, and it's way older than the current ai boom.
You know those annoying telemarketers who uses what is basically a fancier microsoft sam to promote their products over the phone? I think it has been going on long before the big ai boom. And with voice-synthesizer (ai-generated voices/text-to-speech) tech being far more developed now, i can imagine it being used for more nefarious purposes than annoying the hell out of you. Imagine being scammed 10 grand because some guy impersonates your mom asking for some quid.
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They are just adding buzzwords upon buzzwords, 'bro' is becoming as meaningless as 'misogynist' and 'incel' has.
>And when women don't give them what they want, obviously due to their horrible personalities
Its because they are ugly, fat, bald, short or a combination of all those. I've met men who believed women should be slaves but women were perfectly fine with those opinions because he looked like a calvin klein underwear model.
Most wont understand what they are seeing.
I would like to know what these people think about humanoid robots taking over blue collar jobs in the service industry and logistics...
They drown out other opinions because those countries don't speak english so of course you wont hear about them
Not that I don't like it, more like I'm disappointed. The plateau theory is becoming more real with every iteration, meanwhile many video AI demos were faked and the real output is underwhelming.
AI code is particularly bad IMHO, it never worked for me and companies like devin.ai turned out to be a complete scam.
I recall a number of translated japanese blogs where anime workers were contemplating suicide because SD its ridiculously good at doing anime.
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I don't know if this counts, but my Indian homie once sent me this when we were talking about this topic.
If you don't know who this guy is, he's A.R. Rahman, one of the most revered composers in India (some of his movie BGMs are actually pretty great honestly. Maybe songs too, but I can't understand the lyrics so I can't tell). He even won 2 Oscars for Slumdog Millionaire (possibly even got the chance at the time because it was Slumdog Millionaire, an international production), which, funnily enough, he thinks he didn't even deserve. He also did some other Hollywood productions after this like Pelé, People Like Us, Couple's Retreat, etc.
And before the good ol' /pol/ack stuff about pajeets (do it, just after you read the comment), this matters a bit because India has a HUGE music industries, mainly because they have around 2-3k films coming out a year & they make their own songs & scores, OSTs & BGMs for their films, they even have their own music jews called "the music mafia" & everything.
Which is why ARR, the guy here, he's considered as one of the biggest faces of it there, I'd say his opinion carries some weight on this.
He basically says in the video that AI is just a evolution of music, just like samples led to people thinking that jobs will be lost, but instead the value of acoustic instruments were realised, or how mono-recording evolved to Atmos, etc. He actually believes that stuff such as mixing, sorting samples, etc. can be made way easier with this.
That said, he also believes that while a few compositions come out, it won't take any jobs whatsoever, & that stuff such as lyrics should be cohesive, so the human element can't be replaced, yet.
In fact, I researched a bit more on this then & found out that he even made a song recently using the voice of 2 late singers Baba Bakya & Shahul Hameed, who were his friends & were introduced to the music industry by him.
He later talked about it on a BBC interview too:
He says he took permission from family members, & even sent them renumerations for using their voice algorithms & that AI isn't a threat or nuisance when used right.
It led to some mixed opinions, but the majority wanted more of their other legendary singer's voices being resurrected & immortalized. You can even see it on the comment section of the song.
Now please continue with the good morning sirs.
And before the good ol' /pol/ack stuff about pajeets (do it, just after you read the comment), this matters a bit because India has a HUGE music industries, mainly because they have around 2-3k films coming out a year & they make their own songs & scores, OSTs & BGMs for their films, they even have their own music jews called "the music mafia" & everything.
Which is why ARR, the guy here, he's considered as one of the biggest faces of it there, I'd say his opinion carries some weight on this.
He basically says in the video that AI is just a evolution of music, just like samples led to people thinking that jobs will be lost, but instead the value of acoustic instruments were realised, or how mono-recording evolved to Atmos, etc. He actually believes that stuff such as mixing, sorting samples, etc. can be made way easier with this.
That said, he also believes that while a few compositions come out, it won't take any jobs whatsoever, & that stuff such as lyrics should be cohesive, so the human element can't be replaced, yet.
He is right honestly, even meme songs made from it (such as ones from Obscurest Vinyl) can get the music & singing, but not the lyrics. Someone has to think of that lunacy & I don't think that AI can make that kind of autism up. Some examples:
In fact, I researched a bit more on this then & found out that he even made a song recently using the voice of 2 late singers Baba Bakya & Shahul Hameed, who were his friends & were introduced to the music industry by him.
It led to some mixed opinions, but the majority wanted more of their other legendary singer's voices being resurrected & immortalized. You can even see it on the comment section of the song.
Now please continue with the good morning sirs.
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Png-tuber proudly announcing she/he has been harassing an artist and her family for suspected use of ai:
“she wouldn’t self-face-dox for me so I had to literally stalk her to make sure it wasn’t a case of identity theft” is psycho reasoning.
Png-tuber proudly announcing she/he has been harassing an artist and her family for suspected use of ai:
“she wouldn’t self-face-dox for me so I had to literally stalk her to make sure it wasn’t a case of identity theft” is psycho reasoning.
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Fucking retarded indeed. To go after an artist/potential scammer with the law is one thing (perhaps a nothingburger). But stalking DOES constitute a crime. So this moron commited a more serious crime. Hopefully "it" is proud of "itself".
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If Sloppy Ai is what makes you kill yourself, you're clearly do not treat your life in high regard and think the easy way out is that easy. Killing yourself does not help anyone. Instead, just have fun and live your life to the fullest. Keeping yourself alive is the biggest middle finger to anyone who thinks ai can replace human artists.
Clearly, people need to be taught the important lesson of "do not give a fuck". The people on both sides are too sensitive to negative stuff and has knee-jerk reactions that helps no one, especially their own side. Do not give your opponent ammunition to attack your ideals by acting foolishly.
God, ai bros and anti-ai activists need to take note
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Being a developer looking in on the artist community is quite funny. Even if they do constantly call you a "tech bro" for actually understanding a bit of how AI works.
I think the funniest part is that despite the average artist being way more of a lefty than the average developer, the way their work is treated is actually the complete opposite. The popular stance in the artist community is very protective of their work, while the popular stance in the developer community is open-source where everyone shares and collaborates.
I usually get into trouble with artist friends for my views on AI because I go in with the perspective of a developer. So when I hear "they shouldn't be allowed to train on our works" the only thing I think of is "well, did you have it protected by a license that forbids that or did you just post it onto social media without any restrictions?"
And the funny thing is that it hijacks the whole conversation away from what I think is a much more worrying concern with AI: It's practically trivial to make ChatGPT write malware that only needs a small bit of knowledge to know how to package it up. And how similarly, ChatGPT kinda revolutionises the entire scam industry...
I think the funniest part is that despite the average artist being way more of a lefty than the average developer, the way their work is treated is actually the complete opposite. The popular stance in the artist community is very protective of their work, while the popular stance in the developer community is open-source where everyone shares and collaborates.
I usually get into trouble with artist friends for my views on AI because I go in with the perspective of a developer. So when I hear "they shouldn't be allowed to train on our works" the only thing I think of is "well, did you have it protected by a license that forbids that or did you just post it onto social media without any restrictions?"
This is one of my pet peeves for sure. If it were anything else you'd be told to learn to code. But when it's art, they freak the fuck out.
And the funny thing is that it hijacks the whole conversation away from what I think is a much more worrying concern with AI: It's practically trivial to make ChatGPT write malware that only needs a small bit of knowledge to know how to package it up. And how similarly, ChatGPT kinda revolutionises the entire scam industry...
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This sounds almost like parody. If you're ending friendships over AI of all things, then that's a massive you problem. Maybe just kindly let them know you're not interested in seeing AI? They'll hopefully understand. AI really is just the artist's community's own Red Scare. It's just generated noise turned into an image, dawg. It's not something to lose sleep over.
If you're getting unmotivated from generated noise, that's on you.
If you're getting anxious and being a nihilist doomer from generated noise, that's on you.
You know how to not feel like it's the end of the world? Just don't engage with AI. Don't look at AI. Ignore it. Continue doing whatever you're doing. Don't lose your flip if a friend of yours thought an AI meme was a bit hilarious. But then again, most artists are sensitive toward anything they feel will "make them obsolete". My guy, you were lacking the motivation to begin with if you're letting, again, generated noise put you down like this.
AI can never replace human art, absolutely. But AI is also not something to treat like it's going to commit a war crime on artists and other creative industries. Any sort of advancement, whether its technological, industrial, all that stuff, will be used for nefarious purposes. There's a reason people say to blame the users of the technology, not the technology itself.
I enjoy messing with AI because I always look at it as just a playground. Generated noise to mess around and experiment with. I'm still drawing. I'm still writing. I'm still enjoying my hobbies as usual while still partaking in AI. It can't be that hard for artists to take in similar mentalities, right? To just see AI as a mere thing to mess around with or even understand more if one is interested in making something AI-related that really can help out artists and other creative fields rather than potentially damage it?
No. Because the anti-AI crowd thinks with emotions and just go straight to hostility. Both sides do. Both sides suck as I said in my previous comment a while ago.
Like with politics, there's no thinking. Just flinging.
I was neither. I always interested in AI because it was nice being able to generate certain things I know I could not do myself. It also gives me ideas on what to draw or ways to experiment with my art style. I'm only into AI art and music, though. I'm not into AI writing. I don't hate it, it's just not for me since I have far more experience as a writer than an artist. It never stopped me from working with art. I could spend thirty minutes messing with AI and then spending a couple of hours drawing after.
I did know some people who were fans of AI but eventually got sick of it or simply lost interest in it. I had a friend who used to do AI but got bored of it (because he barely utilized it and did basic prompts all the time). They know I'm still into AI but they don't hate me for it. Which is surprising since they're a pretty hardcore leftist.
Regarding the international crowd, you're far less likely to see a non-westerner call heresy to AI than the western crowd. They're everywhere when you search up AI tutorials on A111/ComfyUI. All of them suck when it comes to actually generating something unique, though. These people spend so much money just to generate a run-on-the-mill human or animal. I have yet to see a tutorial that really shows how versatile AI can be with what you can create.
But other than that rambling, non-westerners actually have better issues to deal with than some generative noise they probably don't think much about for nothing more than a few minutes or hours a day/week. Most of them aren't artists either so they don't think much about the whole "AI will take every artist's job and will make this fat fetish artist be HOMELESS and BEGGING on the streets!!!" theory. For the ones who are artists, they usually use AI to help assist them with their works. Others just rely on AI entirely. If you ever hear a case on Twitter of an artist getting ganged on for using AI to assist them with their work, there's a good chance that artist isn't a westerner. I swear.
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We can only hope.
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The "technicians" who have adequate technical skills but lack distinctive ideas or vision are going to be out of work across all creative fields. It hit writing first and is currently hitting graphic design and, most importantly, low quality fetish art (including nonsexual fetishes like transdisabled vitilgo tumblr nose pseudo-art) which is what almost all of the people screeching over AI do. It will hit music soon. People who have vision realize it's just another tool. Either for enhancing productivity or generating novel ideas. AI can't and will probably never be able to synthesize distinctive styles in the same way a human brain can but that's honestly part of the point, it's a completely different perspective that can inspire a human to take it somewhere else.
I think AI is actually amazing at concept art because it lacks the blocks a human brain runs into. There's "no no no, that won't work." It takes "what if..." to dozens of complete images virtually instantly. And just as effortlessly as you can create it, you can discard it and move on to something else.
But you have to have a growth mentality to accept any of this and the majority of people in the "art" community stopped developing in school. Washing these people out of the creative fields will be a great cleansing. These excess people just make indistinct noise which makes them no better than the AIslop models they cry about.
I think AI is actually amazing at concept art because it lacks the blocks a human brain runs into. There's "no no no, that won't work." It takes "what if..." to dozens of complete images virtually instantly. And just as effortlessly as you can create it, you can discard it and move on to something else.
But you have to have a growth mentality to accept any of this and the majority of people in the "art" community stopped developing in school. Washing these people out of the creative fields will be a great cleansing. These excess people just make indistinct noise which makes them no better than the AIslop models they cry about.
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They're artists, they'll always be there. Even when they start accepting AI there will be some that will sit there and whine.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1f2c2e4/christanity_is_antiai/ https://archive.ph/proU2
whaddya think, bait or real schizo argument? i'm leaning towards the former
top comment provides a good counterargument regardless
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Txitter Persona fans and their shared ant-like braincell hivemind never ceased to amaze me.
pretty funny ngl