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Morning, luscious ladies and solid studs. You love to see people discussing horse cum, communism, and oligarchies in the morning.
 
CharlesBarkley said:
I’ll lay it all out for the ill educated in here:

Blacks - Steal. Not influenced by Jews but somehow can be manipulated via shitty marvel movies and rap music. Legit, all you need is a black dude doing a rap about Wakanda and jizzing to dictate the retarded masses. Responsible for all crime.

China - Cucks. Not like in a sex way but due to hyper nationalism and lack of will power, refuse to accept the American way of life rules and wants the world to be under the thumb of the mythical Middle Kingdom where some Chinese Authority makes every home run a red flag and praise Mao, a nigga who is fat. Is like the borg, except a borg can even be open minded in extreme situations. Always scream “CHINA NUMBER 1” despite the Chinese government just killing their pets, sealing them in an apartment over Covid and poisoning their food daily. Now told by the Chinese government to sleep with Africans to populate their adventures, lmao. Wait for that fucking nightmare in 30 years.

Jews - Foreskin stealers. Global elite consists of hardline conservative Jews or progressive faggot Jews who seem to not care that the world implodes while they donate millions to whatever political poison idea they fancy at the time. Get upset about minor insults with race yet seem to not show the same empathy to other races. Monstrously ugly.

Hawaiians - I just don’t like them and no one else should either.
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I see, very informative. Like a wikipedia page but without the 1000px wide banner begging me to donate.
 
Jade Philosophies said:
It doesn't work. China requires massive amounts of capitalism to work. If you took the capitalism out of China it would be North Korea.
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You know what I meant. Stop being a pedantic asshat.

Allanon said:
Wait is it China, the Jews, the darkies, or the women who we're blaming for everything bad? You can't just switch it on me, man.
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All of them for different reasons. The Chinks influence our culture. The Jews rule is. The darkies ruin our society. There's a lot of different people in the world who all want different things. It's not just one faction moving at a time.

Anasûrimbor Kellhus said:
how about when what america does to islamic countries causes the barriers between the middle east and the west to dissolve, like with nato's removal of gaddafi?
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I honestly don't care. I just want to see Islam completely eradicated.
 
Party Hat Wurmple said:
I honestly don't care. I just want to see Islam completely eradicated.
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that's the problem though. When "america has actions in the middle east" that you don't care about, the end result is islam spreading to europe stronger than ever. If we had kept the ironfisted tinpot regimes that kept the allahu ackbar people within their own borders like saddam and gaddafi we probably wouldn't be here right now with iran having all the fundamentalist influence they do.
 
CNN got its marching orders to go after Senator Vance's military record.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4820159-vance-criticizes-cnn-walz-military/
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/xcHXl
Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) criticized CNN’s Brianna Keilar on Thursday for saying he was an “imperfect messenger” when it comes to attacking Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s military record.

Keilar on CNN’s Inside Politics discussed the ongoing debate about Walz’s military record since he was chosen this week to join Vice President Harris on the Democratic ticket. She noted that Vance’s title was “combat correspondent” during his deployment as a Marine in Iraq.

“But when you dig a little deeper into that, he was a public affairs specialist, someone who did not see combat, which certainly the title ‘combat correspondent’ kind of gives you a different impression. So he may be the imperfect messenger on that,” Keilar said.

Luis Agostini, a public information officer at the Drug Enforcement Agency’s Chicago office, called out Keilar for the comments on X. Vance responded to Agostini’s thread, saying it was “shameful” for Keiler to slander an “entire MOS,” or Military Occupational Specialty.

“It’s easy to sit in the comfort and safety of a @CNN studio and trivialize the service of countless men and women who risked their lives,” Vance wrote.

The Hill has asked CNN about Vance’s criticism.

Mediaite noted that Keilar is a military spouse herself, since her husband is an active-duty Green Beret. She questioned Vance’s ability to go after Walz, who served 24 years in the National Guard.

“But then at the same time you have this argument going on where it seems to be ‘did you really serve your country if you weren’t shot at a lot?’” she said. “And I just think that’s a very, kind of, gross place to be because there is so much service and sacrifice that goes on in the military.”

Walz and Vance are the first veterans on national tickets since the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) ran for president in 2008, and would be the first veteran to serve as president or vice president since President George W. Bush, a former lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard.

Vance has accused Walz of “stolen valor” amid Republicans attacks on Walz allegedly inflating his rank in retirement, and claiming that he carried a weapon in war, when he hasn’t actually served in combat.

“I wonder, Tim Walz, when were you ever in war?” Vance said at a campaign stop in Michigan on Wednesday. “He has not spent a day in a combat zone … I’d be ashamed if I was him and I lied about my military service like he did.”
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Cuckoman said:
That is provably wrong. The left and the unions were always against mass immigration because it it depresses the wages for the working class.
It used to be capitalists like the Koch brothers that were famously for mass immigration because they wanted cheaper labor for their factories.
That is moot now though since all the factories have been sent overseas.




"The simple fact is that we must not — and we will not — surrender our borders to those who wish to exploit our history of compassion and justice."
- President Bill Clinton, New York Times, July 28, 1993

Jimmy Carter was the president that made it illegal to hire illegal immigrants.

Read up on Cesar Chavez and United Farm workers. Labor unions. They were about as left as you could get in that time and they were very much against immigration.

Even until very recently, Bernie Sanders himself was very much against immigration:

This is what Bernie Sanders said in 2007:
"“If poverty is increasing and if wages are going down, I don’t know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are right now,” Sanders said. ”"


It is amazing how history is lost and re-written.
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Wasn't Lyndon B Johnson a left-wing President? He enacted the 1965 Immigration Act. Also, is this photo from the 60s of right-wing protesters?

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xXx: State of the Union said:
1. This fat pig is still alive?

2. Nice pop culture reference, Sheldon.

3. I haven't been a nerd for many years now, but didn't Doctor Doom make Latveria one of the best economies in the world with zero unemployment and zero fear of terrorism?
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Yes. Dr doom is hypercompetent, incredibly intelligent, talented and with literally godlike level willpower. He's basically perfect escept some deep ego issues. He's also a warlock, somehow.
 
The Nothingness said:
CNN got its marching orders to go after Senator Vance's military record.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4820159-vance-criticizes-cnn-walz-military/
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/xcHXl
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Ah, the partisan spin. Waltz made the claim that weapons he used IN WAR don't belong in the streets. He attempted to leverage an experience he didn't have for political points. I haven't seen Vance try to leverage specifics of his service to push an agenda (I've only seen generalized "served in the military" type statements). So CNN trying to say Vance can't call out Waltz for lying about his experience is just an attempted obfuscation to shield Waltz from his fuck up. If Vance REALLY wanted to dig in, he could have said that Waltz was an even larger liar, because a service member would know the difference between an AR-15 and an M4, and that M4s aren't being sold at gun stores around the country.
 
Kankichi Ryotsu said:
Switzerland referendums have pretty low participation rate. Can you really claim that's what the majority of the people want?
Honestly this entire talk is silly. What the people want and what the country needs are not the same. People have been gaslit into accepting illegals for decades and continue to support it based on emotional manipulation tactics by the media and activist groups. Illegal immigration has a verifiable impact on people's lives, and those consequences are there despite what "the people" say. If there is a need for a fire department in a location, that need exists whether the people vote for it or not. And this is without getting into what "the people" actually is, that's another can of worms.
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The choice is there to vote in the Swiss referendums. If some people choose not to vote that's up to them. So how is it not what they want? You say people accept and support illegal immigration. Really? The majority of people? When was there ever a referendum in the USA (or any country, except perhaps Switzerland) on whether to allow illegal immigration to be so lightly policed?
 
The Nothingness said:
CNN got its marching orders to go after Senator Vance's military record.
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I mean it's true. JD Vance routinely misrepresents what he did in the Marines, just like he lies about his background. He's the dude putting out press releases from an air conditioned base about what actual Marines are doing. He's only better than Tampon Tim because he's not outright lying about his cowardice.
Barry McKockner said:
Ah, the partisan spin. Waltz made the claim that weapons he used IN WAR don't belong in the streets. He attempted to leverage an experience he didn't have for political points. I haven't seen Vance try to leverage specifics of his service to push an agenda (I've only seen generalized "served in the military" type statements). So CNN trying to say Vance can't call out Waltz for lying about his experience is just an attempted obfuscation to shield Waltz from his fuck up. If Vance REALLY wanted to dig in, he could have said that Waltz was an even larger liar, because a service member would know the difference between an AR-15 and an M4, and that M4s aren't being sold at gun stores around the country.
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Come on, you know EXACTLY the image Jimmy D. Bowman wants to present when he says he was a "combat correspondant" in the Marines. He gets to fool people into thinking he did hardcore shit because nobody knows what a combat correspondent is. It's pure deceit, just like everything else about him.
 
Kankichi Ryotsu said:
They're already voting for all that. Do you see people voting those candidates out or punishing them in some way? No, they just claim that those are few cases and that trans kids must be protected. This wouldn't change under direct democratic rule, it's only that in the ballot it would be written a little nicer than "kid trannifying and raping act" and the people will eat it all up just as they have up until now.
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Yes, SOME people will vote for awful things but not the majority. And voting for candidates isn't the same as voting for individual issues. That's the point. If there was a "kid trannifying and raping act" referendum I guarantee you most people would vote against it. But you would rather that the people not be allowed to vote against it and instead an oligarchy can just make acts like that like they've already done.
 
Save the Loli said:
I mean it's true. JD Vance routinely misrepresents what he did in the Marines, just like he lies about his background. He's the dude putting out press releases from an air conditioned base about what actual Marines are doing. He's only better than Tampon Tim because he's not outright lying about his cowardice.

Come on, you know EXACTLY the image Jimmy D. Bowman wants to present when he says he was a "combat correspondant" in the Marines. He gets to fool people into thinking he did hardcore shit because nobody knows what a combat correspondent is. It's pure deceit, just like everything else about him.
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This is bullshit.

JD Vance never lied, or even embellished, anything about his service record, and any "implications" you're suggesting are just baseless slanders on your part.

Walz, on the other hand, blatantly lied about his rank, and his service record, and those are facts, no implications required.
 
Beanie Man having a pissy fit about defending lil' Joe Rogan, now saying he'll vote for RFK, what a faggot. He's such a midwit, like he doesn't even realize Rogan won't even let on Trump people.

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Save the Loli said:
I mean it's true. JD Vance routinely misrepresents what he did in the Marines, just like he lies about his background. He's the dude putting out press releases from an air conditioned base about what actual Marines are doing. He's only better than Tampon Tim because he's not outright lying about his cowardice.

Come on, you know EXACTLY the image Jimmy D. Bowman wants to present when he says he was a "combat correspondant" in the Marines. He gets to fool people into thinking he did hardcore shit because nobody knows what a combat correspondent is. It's pure deceit, just like everything else about him.
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As far as JD Vance saying he was a combat correspondent, it was literally his job description-

https://www.operationmilitarykids.org › marine-corps-combat-correspondent-mos-4341

Marine Corps Combat Correspondent (MOS 4341)​

Jun 18, 2024Marine Corps Combat Correspondents (MOS 4341) are like regular journalists, yet also serve the U.S. Armed Forces. Combat Correspondents provide a fresh, up-close, and personal account of what is happening in the field. Learn more about the job role of a Marine Corps Combat Correspondent
 
FILTH Tourist said:
I don't think the government you are proposing fits the definition of an oligarchy. An oligarchy is made up of an elite class of the citizenry, who exert power over the state using their wealth and influence (think nobles, ultra wealthy business/land owners, communist party bigwigs, etc) which is what the "small EXCLUSIVE class" in the first definition is referring to. If any Joe off the street is able to get elected into public office, then it isn't really exclusive. What you are trying to describe is an extra autistic Republic where instead of people voting for congressmen to represent citizens on all matters, they are voting for what is essentially the presidential cabinet/tsars to oversee specific public functions and propose laws for the public to vote on. (if I am following you correctly?)
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"What the definition of oligarchy says oligarchy means doesn't actually mean what it says, the actual definition requires these specific qualifiers that I've added."
 
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