💥 Trainwreck Jill C Noyes Rodrigues / David Rodrigues / Rodrigues Family Ministries / Rodrigues Family Serving Jesus / All Things Truth Printing Ministry - Batshit MLM-shill narc mom of 13 starving children and her jobless "headship". Grifting and drifting across the US in an RV. Wanted by WV CPS.

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TheCakeIsALie said:
I personally don’t believe abusive people truly love their kids. But just my opinion and no way a fact. I also tend to learn towards the cynical side in general


You’re too optimistic. She will never change. She doesn’t deserve a break for letting her kids starve while her husband gets fatter and fatter; and inflicting all sorts of damage and trauma on them by teaching them that any view different from their own is due to Satan’s influence.

That said, you’re perfectly entitled to your opinion and reasoning and can respect it and dissenting opinions are totally ok.
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She can change. I would rather she change, and if it can be enabled she change, or at least help the kids, whatever. It's better than nothing.

I think what will straighten Jill out is when she first gets rebuked by the adult child himself or herself, not the in-law.
 
LonesomeDud said:
She can change. I would rather she change, and if it can be enabled she change, or at least help the kids, whatever. It's better than nothing.

I think what will straighten Jill out is when she first gets rebuked by the adult child himself or herself, not the in-law.
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I do hold onto the slight bit of hope that is the case and that it happens :)
 
LonesomeDud said:
I think what will straighten Jill out is when she first gets rebuked by the adult child himself or herself, not the in-law.
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Agreed-- IF anything straightens Jill out. More likely this would just be narc fuel that gives her excuses to preach how the evil world has twisted her beautiful child against her, woe is Jill, the single least sinful person in the world!

But yeah, any rebuking from an in-law would just create a way for her to interfere with the child's relationship.

Abusers will try to isolate their victim from others. "I don't like your mom/sister/friend/etc." An abusive narc mom could certainly do the same thing with a child's spouse if they aren't serving her purposes.

It'll be a bit trickier for Jill, since she can't exactly encourage her kids to divorce, or encourage her daughters to tell their headships to pound sand. More importantly, she can't express those feelings on social media. But she can still insert herself into those relationships, and impose herself. Showing up at Nurie's with a broken leg to be waited on right after her first child was born comes to mind, IIRC.

If your loved one is in an abusive relationship, it's important to keep the lines of communication open. Don't confront your loved one and make them feel like "it's him or me" because that might help the abuser isolate your loved one further. It's better to maintain yourself as a safe option for your loved one to turn to for support when they are ready.

It's the same if your spouse is still involved with an abusive parent. Contributing to in-law conflict only causes more strife. I don't mean kowtow to the monster MIL and enable her bullshit, just don't let her make YOU into the monster, because that might just make it harder for your spouse to get disentangled.

Hopefully the Rodlets will find spouses and friends that can do this for them.
 
LonesomeDud said:
She can change. I would rather she change, and if it can be enabled she change, or at least help the kids, whatever. It's better than nothing.

I think what will straighten Jill out is when she first gets rebuked by the adult child himself or herself, not the in-law.
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"You can lead a horse to water, but can't make them drink."
Could she change? Oh absolutely. will she though?
That's the actual question, and I truly don't think she will. She hasn't really given me any indication of wanting to better herself, and doesn't seem to do anything pious unless it's to post on social media, if even that.
When I was a believer, my preacher used to tell the congregation to be careful to not blind yourself to the realities of others due to shared faiths, because this is how a lot of scams are done and how many are taken advantage of, or how abuse goes unreported. It was actually thanks to this type of sermon done several times a year that lead to some abusive parents or partners getting ratted out.
It feels like you're choosing to blind yourself with the could, rather than the would.
 
Flaming_Barghast said:
"You can lead a horse to water, but can't make them drink."
Could she change? Oh absolutely. will she though?
That's the actual question, and I truly don't think she will. She hasn't really given me any indication of wanting to better herself, and doesn't seem to do anything pious unless it's to post on social media, if even that.
When I was a believer, my preacher used to tell the congregation to be careful to not blind yourself to the realities of others due to shared faiths, because this is how a lot of scams are done and how many are taken advantage of, or how abuse goes unreported. It was actually thanks to this type of sermon done several times a year that lead to some abusive parents or partners getting ratted out.
It feels like you're choosing to blind yourself with the could, rather than the would.
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Horses are born to drink water. We are born to love one another. If a horse isn't drinking water, it's the best course of action to figure out what is wrong with the horse. I know it's a horse. I know it isn't drinking. I just think putting the horse down is the last resort.
brooky said:
Agreed-- IF anything straightens Jill out. More likely this would just be narc fuel that gives her excuses to preach how the evil world has twisted her beautiful child against her, woe is Jill, the single least sinful person in the world!

But yeah, any rebuking from an in-law would just create a way for her to interfere with the child's relationship.

Abusers will try to isolate their victim from others. "I don't like your mom/sister/friend/etc." An abusive narc mom could certainly do the same thing with a child's spouse if they aren't serving her purposes.

It'll be a bit trickier for Jill, since she can't exactly encourage her kids to divorce, or encourage her daughters to tell their headships to pound sand. More importantly, she can't express those feelings on social media. But she can still insert herself into those relationships, and impose herself. Showing up at Nurie's with a broken leg to be waited on right after her first child was born comes to mind, IIRC.

If your loved one is in an abusive relationship, it's important to keep the lines of communication open. Don't confront your loved one and make them feel like "it's him or me" because that might help the abuser isolate your loved one further. It's better to maintain yourself as a safe option for your loved one to turn to for support when they are ready.

It's the same if your spouse is still involved with an abusive parent. Contributing to in-law conflict only causes more strife. I don't mean kowtow to the monster MIL and enable her bullshit, just don't let her make YOU into the monster, because that might just make it harder for your spouse to get disentangled.

Hopefully the Rodlets will find spouses and friends that can do this for them.
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I think Nathan doesn't put up with Jill the way Jonathon does, but he's older. I am looking forward to Tim's marriage to Heidi. Jill doesn't know the hell she's going to catch when she tries to push Tim around when he has a wife. Heidi has shown she's anything but some spineless, slavish woman who does as she's told just for the heck of it. And she seems like a better woman than Jill, and I'm fairly certain Tim shares my opinion.

And if Jill won't succumb to the wisdom of Tim's wife, I am sure Tim's new family will either tell Jill, or end up being the place they go for all their early marriage holidays.
 
Saw Jill’s Muslim equivalent today while people-watching at a Costco food court. Super glammed up, rather plump hijabi in her 40s taking endless selfies while ignoring her bored husband and 6 kids who were all picking at a single cheese pizza (Jillilah had two slices on her plate). They would love each other.
 
A Sentient Cloud said:
Saw Jill’s Muslim equivalent today while people-watching at a Costco food court. Super glammed up, rather plump hijabi in her 40s taking endless selfies while ignoring her bored husband and 6 kids who were all picking at a single cheese pizza (Jillilah had two slices on her plate). They would love each other.
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Isnt cheese pizza haram sometimes? Sometimes rennet is derived from animals.
 
A Sentient Cloud said:
Saw Jill’s Muslim equivalent today while people-watching at a Costco food court. Super glammed up, rather plump hijabi in her 40s taking endless selfies while ignoring her bored husband and 6 kids who were all picking at a single cheese pizza (Jillilah had two slices on her plate). They would love each other.
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the social media curse effects all nations
 
TheCakeIsALie said:
Isnt cheese pizza haram sometimes? Sometimes rennet is derived from animals.
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Most of the Costco offerings (that aren’t specifically off limits to religions by virtue of being either pork or beef), can be eaten by any person of any religion as long as they’re not super fundie about every single derivation and ingredient. The hotdogs are all beef and I think they’re also kosher, and most Costco frozen or take and bake type items don’t generally use more than one type of meat in a dish. If there’s gelatin in the strawberry ice cream sundae, some might not eat it, while not super fundie Muslims go “well, it doesn’t say specifically it’s from pigs”- sort of a don’t ask, don’t find out policy.

As for thoughts about if Jill loves the kids: I think she thinks she does, and the kids will say she does, but her actions and impact aren’t love. It’s hard. I loved a parent who was usually more kind to me than the other, but has an undeniable rage problem.

It’s not about not being loved or how you’re often treated, even, but the impact of a parent not handling their own shit. I still don’t let them anywhere near my pets because of having to protect childhood pets from that rage.

Which brings me to my other question: can the Rod adults now even have a simple boundary with Jill like “don’t touch the cat?” Or more fitting to their lives “don’t spank my kid?” I really don’t think so. It’s insidious.
 
Interesting that she didn't immediately post a name and a thousand accompanying pictures.
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I hope it was just for the photo and they didn't drive home with Nurie holding the carrier on her lap.

Naomi is a cute baby, though.
 
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