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Professor Donger said:
Speaking of TIK https://youtube.com/watch?v=K6wkHLDVdXs
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The beginning actually made me mad at the internet. "Hurr durr Altruism is bad because altruistic people behave like a slaves, unlike a free, individual thinker like me.". Then he compares altruistic people to damn commies trying to victimize themselves. Altruism itself just means selfless acting and thinking without immediatly going to "every person who owns property is bad". And of course the lolbert's source on this weird, egoistic view of Altruism is Ayn "caring about others is actually bad" Rand.
Normally I don't mind TIKs lolbert shit but this was just to much.
 
ShittlerNiggler said:
The beginning actually made me mad at the internet. "Hurr durr Altruism is bad because altruistic people behave like a slaves, unlike a free, individual thinker like me.". Then he compares altruistic people to damn commies trying to victimize themselves. Altruism itself just means selfless acting and thinking without immediatly going to "every person who owns property is bad". And of course the lolbert's source on this weird, egoistic view of Altruism is Ayn "caring about others is actually bad" Rand.
Normally I don't mind TIKs lolbert shit but this was just to much.
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I genuinely think altruists piss these people off because they make them feel bad about themselves for being selfish assholes.

Just accept you're selfish and move on. If you don't like it, practice altruism. Don't try to make the guy who donates his time at a soup kitchen feel bad for it.
 
ShittlerNiggler said:
The beginning actually made me mad at the internet. "Hurr durr Altruism is bad because altruistic people behave like a slaves, unlike a free, individual thinker like me.". Then he compares altruistic people to damn commies trying to victimize themselves. Altruism itself just means selfless acting and thinking without immediatly going to "every person who owns property is bad". And of course the lolbert's source on this weird, egoistic view of Altruism is Ayn "caring about others is actually bad" Rand.
Normally I don't mind TIKs lolbert shit but this was just to much.
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"Am I an asshole for having selfish beliefs?"
"No, it's the alturists that are wrong"
 
ShittlerNiggler said:
The beginning actually made me mad at the internet. "Hurr durr Altruism is bad because altruistic people behave like a slaves, unlike a free, individual thinker like me.". Then he compares altruistic people to damn commies trying to victimize themselves. Altruism itself just means selfless acting and thinking without immediatly going to "every person who owns property is bad". And of course the lolbert's source on this weird, egoistic view of Altruism is Ayn "caring about others is actually bad" Rand.
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He's using the Randian definition of Altruism which is the original philosophical definition of Altruism, not the watered down common definition.
 
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JJLiautaud said:
He's using the randian definition of Altruism which is the original philosophical definition of altruism, not the watered down common definition.
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From the website he sources

What is the moral code of altruism? The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.

Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others. These are not primaries, but consequences, which, in fact, altruism makes impossible. The irreducible primary of altruism, the basic absolute, is self-sacrifice—which means; self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-destruction—which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good.

Do not hide behind such superficialities as whether you should or should not give a dime to a beggar. That is not the issue. The issue is whether you do or do not have the right to exist without giving him that dime. The issue is whether you must keep buying your life, dime by dime, from any beggar who might choose to approach you. The issue is whether the need of others is the first mortgage on your life and the moral purpose of your existence. The issue is whether man is to be regarded as a sacrificial animal. Any man of self-esteem will answer: “No.” Altruism says: “Yes.”
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Basically what he's saying is that Altruism as a lot of Communists and Socialist believe it to be, is the complete destruction of yourself for the sake of others, which isn't how most people think of it, with most normal people thinking of altruism as doing good things for others in general.

Hell webster has two definitions for Altruism The first is

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: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others
charitable acts motivated purely by altruism
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Which is what most people think of when thinking of altruism, the second is.

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: behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species
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Which is closer to what Rand believes.

 
Corn Flakes said:
I genuinely think altruists piss these people off because they make them feel bad about themselves for being selfish assholes.

Just accept you're selfish and move on. If you don't like it, practice altruism. Don't try to make the guy who donates his time at a soup kitchen feel bad for it.
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You don't have to deal with communists very long before you'll start to hate altruism too. Deal with hippies for over five minutes and you'll want to scream "nobody gets anything!"

Not saying I agree with Rand, but you hear what she went through and you understand how she ended up the way she did.
 
Flexo said:
You don't have to deal with communists very long before you'll start to hate altruism too. Deal with hippies for over five minutes and you'll want to scream "nobody gets anything!"

Not saying I agree with Rand, but you hear what she went through and you understand how she ended up the way she did.
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Exactly, You can have non-communist levels of altruism, look at Christianity as a whole, but Communism and Socialism take the idea of altruism and take it to a very unhealthy extreme.
 
Professor Donger said:
Exactly, You can have non-communist levels of altruism, look at Christianity as a whole, but Communism and Socialism take the idea of altruism and take it to a very unhealthy extreme.
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Rand's ideology was rather fucked on account of it going beyond individualism into solipsism, but it's hard not to see how she reached the conclusion that "the greater good" was simply a flimsy excuse used by the powerful to convince good people to die for nothing. Being told to give up your livelihoods and health so that everybody else could potentially do better is painful, and seeing people be killed because somebody thought they were insufficiently altruistic is going to burn you out real fast.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
Rand's ideology was rather fucked on account of it going beyond individualism into solipsism, but it's hard not to see how she reached the conclusion that "the greater good" was simply a flimsy excuse used by the powerful to convince good people to die for nothing. Being told to give up your livelihoods and health so that everybody else could potentially do better is painful, and seeing people be killed because somebody thought they were insufficiently altruistic is going to burn you out real fast.
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Personally, I think of Rand as an anti-Marx.
 
JJLiautaud said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6VaLwo2DZKISome bong spergs out about the Me-262 an admirable first attempt at the jet fighter.
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Thought I would chime in since the video seems to supplant (or at least create) a relatively bad opinion regarding NAFO autists and other assorted histrionics when realising it's proper intent. Because you merely have to ask yourself the question: Why did the germans do this wunderwaffe weapon? The promise of the ideal. Even despite the dogshit low octane fuel, the massive engine issues with design flaws and metallurgy, the plane being made with slave labour, most Luftwaffe pilots being dead by the end of the war and every factory being bombed.... The me 262 still made pilots shit themselves and went toe to toe in a lot of cases against the average American and British pilot. Why were all of these designers and engineers swept up in operation paperclip? Really, presupposing germans had some god emperor technology is idiotic, but to imply they were village farmer idiots unable to not shoot themselves in their own foot does not work either. Everything is consistent in moderation.

I also love one of the top comments being about how the Manhattan project "is the wonder weapon that actually won the war". When, well, many scientists who worked on it did work with the nazis.. And British SAS operatives spent several years making sure Germany would not be able to get a nuclear bomb out until 1955 at the earliest. Nazi Germany did not send people or planes to blow up facilities or scientists. Considering Germany's geographical and topographical position and what resources they could draw upon etc.

Either way, Thrasher is at best, supplanting previously explained ideas and over bloating it, or at worse is being a petrol-huffing retarded NAFO kike nigger, and I am informed to the later.
 
ShittlerNiggler said:
The beginning actually made me mad at the internet. "Hurr durr Altruism is bad because altruistic people behave like a slaves, unlike a free, individual thinker like me.". Then he compares altruistic people to damn commies trying to victimize themselves. Altruism itself just means selfless acting and thinking without immediatly going to "every person who owns property is bad". And of course the lolbert's source on this weird, egoistic view of Altruism is Ayn "caring about others is actually bad" Rand.
Normally I don't mind TIKs lolbert shit but this was just to much.
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TIK meant "pathological altruism", the idea that anything that isn't being handed out is going to waste.

At least, I hope he meant that; even Stefan Molyneux qualifies it as "pathological", and that guy was a lot harsher than TIK on just about everything else.
 
Not pop history related but in honor of this third most sacred day I highly recommend the book The Glorious Cause by Robert Middlekauff which goes into the ideological foundations of the American Revolution and refutes the retarded leftoid arguments that the founders were motivated primarily by financial concerns. If you have trouble finding the book for a reasonable price dm me and I'll show you where to look.
 
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