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If Trump wins in November, "he will make this nightmare a reality nationwide," says Lauren Miller​

By CHARLES R. DAVIS

Deputy News Editor

Lauren Miller was pregnant with twins when she landed in the emergency room after 36 straight hours of vomiting. An ultrasound would reveal that one of her expected twins had fluid where the brain should be developing.

"After speaking with multiple doctors and genetic counselors, we kept arriving at the same point: our son would die," Miller recalled during a press call organized by the Democratic Party on Monday. She could die too too, her doctors said, which would in turn kill the viable fetus and leave her toddler at home without a mother.

The course of treatment was obvious: Miller needed an abortion. Before the summer of 2022, that wouldn't have been much of a problem, even in her home state of Texas, as there was a federally recognized constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy. After the Supreme Court's conservative majority overturned Roe v. Wade, however, more than a dozen states imposed strict bans on the procedure. And while Texas, like other states, has exceptions to protect the life of a mother, in practice there is a concern that recommending one could result in a medical professional being liable for what the state GOP argues is an act of murder.

"As my medical providers tried to counsel me on my options," Miller said, "they would just stop mid-sentence, looking for the right words. It was like they were afraid that they would be arrested just for saying the word 'abortion' out loud."

One specialist, Miller recalled, was visibly upset, tearing off his gloves and angrily tossing them in the trash. "I can't help you anymore," he said. "You need to leave the state."

Miller was finally able to terminate the pregnancy when she heeded the specialist's advice and left the Lone Star state.

"I was at risk of organ damage to my kidneys and brain, but I wasn't dead enough for an abortion in Texas, " Miller said.
Texas Republicans imposed a near-total ban on abortion following the Supreme Court's 2022 Dobbs decision, a move that has been followed by complaints, from pregnant people and their doctors, that the prohibition is unclear on when a pregnancy can be terminated to protect a life.

Last week, the state's all-Republican Supreme Court rejected a legal challenge from women who said their lives were endangered as a result of complicated pregnancies that their doctors were hesitant to properly treat; the court said abortions could go ahead based on the "good faith judgment" of a medical professional that an individual would be "unlikely to survive."

But what if a doctor performs an abortion that a court later decides wasn't absolutely necessary? Under current state law, that could mean a sentence of life in prison. Some Republicans want to go even further than that.

As writer Jessica Valenti noted, the Texas Republican Party has adopted a plank that effectively calls for people who perform or obtain abortions to be prosecuted and potentially sentenced to death. The party's platform urges lawmakers "to enact legislation to abolish abortion by immediately securing the right to life and equal protection of the laws to all preborn children from the moment of fertilization." That language was first added in 2022, Valenti reported, "after a lobbying effort by Abolish Abortion Texas," a group that refers to "preborn babies" as being "murdered," the punishment for which includes capital punishment.

"The fact that this platform could even be brought up for a vote is disturbing," Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-Texas, told reporters on Monday. "But it should remind us how extreme and out of touch Donald Trump's MAGA Republican Party has become. If we allow Trump to get to the White House, he will subject all women across this country to his agenda of revenge and retribution."

While boasting of his responsibility for state abortion bans, Trump, who appointed three of the six justices who overturned Roe v. Wade and previously endorsed punishing doctors who perform abortions and patients who receive them, has waffled on just how far he would go if he wins in November. Last month, the presumptive Republican nominee told an interviewer he was "looking at" allowing state bans on birth control, only to walk back the statement after criticism.

Miller, who ultimately received a single fetal abortion and give birth to a healthy son, said she's not confused about the former president's positions when it comes to women and reproductive rights. Trump won't make America great, she said, but he will make it more like Texas, subjecting millions more Americans to the sort of abortion restrictions that now cover a third of the U.S. population.

Should he win in November, according to Miller, "he will make this nightmare a reality nationwide."
 
I don't really care about Trump either way, and I'm neither Democrat nor Republican.

There was a 90 day period where Obama could have put RvW into actual law. He was a dipshit who thought he could use carrot and stick tactics, so he didn't.
Why would they do that when they can campaign on it endlessly?
There were fifty whole years to put Roe on a statutory footing, and then all the court packing shenanigans would have been rendered moot. In fact, with Roe off the table as an SC issue, a number of nominations would probably have gone to superior jurists rather than those who could be relied upon to take the 'correct' line, depending on which administration nominated them.
The Democrats chose not to do that, and to continue kicking the can full of wasps down the road. Then the road ran out. This situation was completely predictable, and was regularly predicted, particularly loudly by RBG who considered Roe wrongly decided.
The easy way out was taken by Democratic administrations, over and over, and all the chickens came home to roost. Whoever is to 'blame' (or otherwise) for the current state of abortion access in America, the Democrats get to eat a whole ass share of that responsibility. They do not get to act like all of this has been a terrible surprise and nothing-I-could-do-abortion-mechanics-glitched.
Democrats could have made it a law during any point they had control over that 50 year period.
/pol/rapefugees seethe about women aborting literally brainless fetuses because they wouldn't be alive if their moms made the same choice.
It's good to see you're doing well too. Hopefully the start of summer isn't hitting you too hard.
 
Yeah, exactly my questions on it as well. I'd love a legal analysis of the involved laws/definitions to clarify where the issue with the law lies (if any).

Too bad all those youtube lawyers are busy with balldos or whatever.
We already had a thread here about an actual court case and the TL;DR from that is the judges all shrugged and went "Why are you asking us? The law is clear that if the doctor states its necessary for the health of the mother, that's all that's needed, and we judges get no say in that at all."

Naturally, instead of making a medical decision, every single doctor involved went to the judiciary to try and score a legal win instead of treating their patient.
 
You let a dude nut into you what did you expect to get? A fucking parade. We've been teaching sex-ed for the last 5 decades and nigga still can't understand how a rubber works.
have sex incel
This but unironically.

If you are fucking around outside marriage, with the expectation that you can murder/have murdered any offspring that naturally result from the act that is designed to produce offspring, you should be punished. I would like to see you and your fuckbois in the town square getting pelted with rotten vegetables. Too bad.
Instead, I can have abortion pills mailed to my house for $50. And nobody can do anything about it. It's pretty great
It's telling you think consequences means punishment.

Anything to avoid responsibility
I would take respomsibility by paying $50 to have abortion pills mailed to my house
 
Every state has safe drop areas where you can leave the child with no criminal penalties against you.
  • Police stations
  • Fire departments
  • Hospitals
Put the unwanted kid in a basket and pick any of the three. You can literally leave him at the front door and alert no one. Rape is not an excuse for killing a child.
But what if your friends and family know? That may be bad socially, better to kill the kid.
 
I ain't gotta say anything to you know who but I think it's self explanatory why I do fuck around with her.
 
All 50 U.S states currently allow for emergency termination of a fetus if there is immediate danger to the wellbeing or health of the mother.

This article is literally propaganda with not a single hint of truth to it.

If I was a journalist I would feel ashamed to tell such naked lies.
It’s not about delivering the information it’s about reframing the context
 
All 50 U.S states currently allow for emergency termination of a fetus if there is immediate danger to the wellbeing or health of the mother.

This article is literally propaganda with not a single hint of truth to it.

If I was a journalist I would feel ashamed to tell such naked lies.
With how it's setup in Texas it's not the state going after people, but rather regular citizens or even private groups hoping for a payday.

So the only way an abortion could reasonably end up being done is if the doctor and everyone else involved could be shielded from frivolous lawsuits from people wanting that cash. Which is never going to happen as you'd have to upend the whole legal system that makes that sort of harassment possible against cake shops or Alex Jones.





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Democrats could have made it a law during any point they had control over that 50 year period.
Democrats could try making a law to protect abortion right now if they wanted, they'd just have to do a sensible compromise with guys like Lindsey Graham.
 
Honestly I just wanted to see how thirsty the response was to defend trump I don’t really care who wins but it has been informative. Also funny.
Fucking niggerfaggot, kill yourself since you got no dick regardless.
Let your faggot family post your ugly hanging corpse online, for everyone to enjoy.
You fucking faggots had 50 years to codify roe vs wade into law but you faggots couldn’t.
Again, kill yourself.
 
Fucking niggerfaggot, kill yourself since you got no dick regardless.
Let your faggot family post your ugly hanging corpse online, for everyone to enjoy.
You fucking faggots had 50 years to codify roe vs wade into law but you faggots couldn’t.
Again, kill yourself.
lol. Lmao even.
 
What's the public temperature like in the US for, say, legalisation of abortion up to 13 weeks, and then rape/incest/life of mother/fatal foetal abnormality after that? In terms of it being acceptable to voters in the US?

In short, is there some sort of abortion access that would be majority-acceptable, if there was a focus on coming to a pragmatic compromise rather than two competing all-ot-nothing positions?
 
Why would they do that when they can campaign on it endlessly?

Democrats could have made it a law during any point they had control over that 50 year period.

It's good to see you're doing well too. Hopefully the start of summer isn't hitting you too hard.
My Civics is rusty as fuck. I heard it has something to do with having a Democrat majority in two different parts of the Supreme Court? If they already had that, as I said, carrot and stick. I'm sadly aware of the endless campaigning stuff. They're probably still going to do it since there are a lot of single-issue voters who miss the forest for the trees.
 
What's the public temperature like in the US for, say, legalisation of abortion up to 13 weeks, and then rape/incest/life of mother/fatal foetal abnormality after that? In terms of it being acceptable to voters in the US?

In short, is there some sort of abortion access that would be majority-acceptable, if there was a focus on coming to a pragmatic compromise rather than two competing all-ot-nothing positions?
Probably. But the sides are heavily polarized.

The pro-life side has pretty much dug its heels in, they're tired of compromising. Meanwhile, the pro-abortion side might've been able to swing this, but then they went with the mind-bogglingly creepy campaign of 'Shout Your Abortion', trying to make it something to be celebrated. And even the normies were WTF'ing at that.

And then RvW got shot in the head and here we are.
 
This is like the third article about some hooker in Texas who can get abortion, but for some reason doesn't and it's Trumps fault. But she still gets abortion anyway and this too is Trumps fault.

I'm of the grand opinion, that if your doctor uses your fucking life as a bullet in a political shitfight, you should change your doctor and possibly file a mistreatment lawsuit.

Everyone involved in here is a fucking retard, is no one pointing out that multiple doctors would prefer to see this woman die for their political purposes? "It would be GRAND if the woman died. We could've saved her, but Trump is orange so no." The multiple doctors here kinda makes me not trust this opinion piece. I can accept that one doctor would endanger your life for political points, I still am of the conviction that most will not.
 
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Hey have you ever heard of this cool new invention called contraception? I heard it's all the rage now.
>expecting whores to make good decisions

There's your first mistake. So many possible alternatives: condoms, pill, iud, etc iud avaliable but as the gatekeeper to sex they can't be bothered and then cry about how traumatic abortions are while also simultaneously shouting how empowered abortions are.

When you realize they just want to be consquence and responsibility free from their actions it makes sense why they are this way.

>in before muh rape, muh incest as though there aren't already exemptions in place and they didn't try to hide the rape of a 10 year old to protect some illegal piece of shit try to score political points
 
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This is like the third article about some hooker in texas who can get abortion, but for some reason doesn't and it's Trumps fault. But she still gets abortion anyway and this too is Trumps fault.

I'm of the grand opinion, that if your doctor uses your fucking life as a bullet in a political shitfight, you should change your doctor and possibly file a mistreatment lawsuit.

Everyone here is a fucking retard, is no one pointing out that multiple doctors would prefer to see this woman die for their political purposes? "It would be GRAND if the woman died. We could've saved her, but Trump is orange so no." The multiple doctors here kinda makes me not trust this opinion piece. I can accept that one doctor would endanger your life for political points, I still am of the conviction that most will not.
Yeah no wonder everyone in the political spectrum is somewhere on the autism spectrum
 
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