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(Pinging musashi since he asked for more documents)
I did some digging searching keywords using a translator and the name of Brazil's FDA, and I've found another document citing Otokonoko. This one is from september, 2023.

This time it seems he has registered his shitty lab, so they might have a name behind it, but I can't understand most of whats written. It might be why he hasn't updated the site since november 2023.

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Wall of text in portuguese

Empresa: OTOKONO COMÉRCIO E SERVIÇOS LTDA - CNPJ: 37.461.243/0001-37

Produto - Apresentação (Lote): VIAGRA (LOTES: TODOS); TESTOSTERONA TRANSDÉRMICA (LOTES: TODOS); PROGESTERONA TRANSDÉRMICO (LOTES: TODOS); ESTRADIOL TRANSDÉRMICO (LOTES: TODOS); PROGESTERONA INJETÁVEL (LOTES: TODOS); PROGESTERONA CÁPSULAS (LOTES: TODOS); ACETATO DE MEDROXIPROGESTERONA (LOTES: TODOS); VALERATO DE ESTRADIOL (LOTES: TODOS); ESTRADIOL (LOTES: TODOS); ENANTATO DE ESTRADIOL (LOTES: TODOS); CIPIONATO DE ESTRADIOL (LOTES: TODOS); DUTASTERIDA (LOTES: TODOS); DOMPERIDONA (LOTES: TODOS); BICALUTAMIDA 50 MG (LOTES: TODOS);

Tipo de Produto: Medicamento

Expediente nº: 0937750/23-6

Assunto: 70351 - Ações de Fiscalização em Vigilância Sanitária

Ações de fiscalização: Apreensão

Proibição - Comercialização, Distribuição, Exportação, Fabricação, Importação, Propaganda, Uso

Motivação: Comprovação da propaganda e comercialização do produto sem registro, notificação ou cadastro na Anvisa, fabricado por empresa que não possui Autorização de Funcionamento nesta Agência para fabricação de medicamentos, em desacordo com os artigos 2º, 12, 50 e 59 da Lei 6.360/1976. As ações de fiscalização determinadas se aplicam a todos os medicamentos fabricados pela empresa OTOKONOKO COMÉRCIO E SERVIÇOS LTDA, bem como a quaisquer pessoas físicas/jurídicas ou veículos de comunicação que comercializem ou divulguem o produto. Esta medida preventiva está fundamentada no artigo 6º da Lei 6.360/1976 e inciso XV do artigo 7º da Lei 9.782/1999.
 
Candidate No 7 said:
Your regular reminder from Himdia that the Nazis were radical feminists.


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I love how trannies are constantly scrambling to obscure the fact that most TERFs are not white and every powerful tranny is a white man. I used to lurk on TERF TikTok back in 2020 when it was still taboo to call a spade a spade and I kid you not, it was mostly in Spanish and the ones that were in English were made by Asian and black women. Showing this would ruin the progressive illusion. Nonwhite women are more conservative on average anyway. If tranny knowledge was a bellcurve, they would be on the ends: "I know nothing about this and I hate it" and "I know everything about this and I hate it."
 
I think Otokonoko also doesn't ship to Brazil any more probably so law enforcement would have a harder time making a purchase and figuring out where it came from.

Also they are operational as the trannies on /r/TransDIY can attest, which is a good place to keep an eye on the sites and who needs to be reported.
 
The best part is the more they shutdown these sites the more DIY dies and the troon groomers fail to build their suicide squads.

These predatory people should be jailed, raped and fined all the cryptobux they earned.
 
With Troon Shine distilleries getting shut down; how are troons going to cope with the genocide?

Let's hope the wonderful people of Palestine welcomes them with open arms.
 
I don't think the online pharmacies are going away anytime soon. The cost of drugs in the US is climbing and people are getting desperate. Too much untapped profit in the wind to ignore, HOWEVER, if troonshine and testosterone become problematic for them to carry, then they will cease to offer them. Augmentin or albuterol isn't tied to grooming kids in discord into some pedos perverted sissy fetish.
 
davids877 said:
Also they are operational as the trannies on /r/TransDIY can attest, which is a good place to keep an eye on the sites and who needs to be reported.
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Yes there is a recent post of a troon that recieved his troonshine from them a couple days ago

It's full of pube hair lmfao
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And the images and videos of the pube infested vials
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Was unable to upload the videos
 
Mr. Manchester said:
I'm amazed that this all of this very reasonable rolling back of troon nonsense is happening in England of all places. Weren't they having the police go out and harass people for calling a man a man on the internet and shit? Maybe this whole backlash thing is going to happen sooner rather than later.
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It’s a confluence, I think. Obviously there’s the fact that troons just keep pushing their luck, to the point where even a lot of liberal, left-wing people are getting peaked. Huge amounts of money and effort are being put into placating a tiny and unpleasable minority at the expense of the majority. People are sick of being scolded by people who do nothing. Meanwhile, troons are unwilling to take out their own trash - they won’t accept that, for instance, maybe some of these trans women in prison who commit rape may not have had pure motives for trooning out.

But there’s also a political motivation for it. The UK government is frankly dogshit. Public services are in disarray, the economy’s been tanked at least twice as a direct result of the government’s actions and the Conservative Party is tearing itself apart. The trans backlash is an easy way to regain some favour - the people who object wouldn’t have voted Conservative anyway, and the Labour Party make fools of themselves whenever the subject is brought up.
 
Equal Rights for Androids said:
Today we still do lobotomies because they actually work!! We just don't do the unprecise icepick method. But lobotomies are still done in the USA today.
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No we don't. No, they don't.

There are very few accepted techniques for dealing with psychological illness that involve surgery, the mainstream accepted ones are some forms of cingulotomies, capsulotomies and stereotactic amygdalotomies, (not accounting for DBS and similar techniques because they are an entirely different beast). They still remain controversial, mainly due to not being reversible unlike DBS among other factors, and they still are used as a last resort to very specific treatment resistant forms of mental disorders where the alternative is the patient being completely non-functional and an-heroing.

This is completely aside the fact of troons being deserving a lobotomy, in which case the answer would be a resounding yes.
Otterly said:
I’ll be cynical. I don’t think it was a realisation that lobotomies did terrible harm that stopped it. We stopped doing them when we invented Chlorpromazine in the fifties and started using it and other similar drugs more widely. Why use surgery when you can chemically cosh someone into submission? Much easier.
They’re still a dribbling retard but they’re easy enough to control.
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While I don't disagree it's also about the levels of, to put it in a very silly term, "take backies" you can do with it.

You can remove the pills from the tard and (mostly, depends on which generation we're talking about) have them back to how they were, you also have the advantage of adjusting dosage, delivery methods and what type of tard pill you administer to have something tailor made to the specific needs of said tard. Lobotomies are final, they aren't reversible by any degree.

To add to the cynicism however, there's also the fact that pills for life bring in more money than a single procedure, but I believe everyone in this thread is very familiar with that one, it is the "take horse piss pills for life" thread after all.
Mellow Malevolent said:
Homebrew injections... Sounds like a good way to get some sort of horrific systemic bacterial infection
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IIRC and don't quote me on this, but I half remember one of these troons saying that boiling the vials was good enough, no need for "expensive" equipment like an autoclave. There were also pictures around of a vial of horse piss concentrate with a hair in it.

So yes, precisely what you said.
 
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This one is a bit different. It orders the seizure (but not the destruction) of all lots of the drugs Otokonoko produces or sells (some are specified in the header, like Viagra, various hormone supplements and HRT supplies), and prohibits the same as the previous doc (sales, distribution, production, advertisement and use), plus importing and exporting. It is specified that the action was taken because Otokonoko was selling and advertising products without registering with or notifying ANVISA, the agency responsible for this, and that the company has no authorisation to produce drugs. It also applies to any persons, natural or juridical, as well as media, who sell or advertise their products.

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.
 
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No we don't. No, they don't.

There are very few accepted techniques for dealing with psychological illness that involve surgery, the mainstream accepted ones are some forms of cingulotomies, capsulotomies and stereotactic amygdalotomies, (not accounting for DBS and similar techniques because they are an entirely different beast). They still remain controversial, mainly due to not being reversible unlike DBS among other factors, and they still are used as a last resort to very specific treatment resistant forms of mental disorders where the alternative is the patient being completely non-functional and an-heroing.

This is completely aside the fact of troons being deserving a lobotomy, in which case the answer would be a resounding yes.
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"Lobotomy" is actually a fairly common treatment for the most severe forms of epilepsy. For example hemispherectomy consists of severing one half of the brain from the brainstem. It's genuinely quite effective, and more than half of the people who get it will no longer have seizures. Most are still able to walk, talk, read, etc, and it's usually a marked improvement in quality of life over what they had before. Short of that, though, there are also neurosurgical procedures (such as subpial transections) that target specific parts of the brain. I guess the argument is, where you draw the line precisely, because there is some overlap. Lobotomy is about destroying a part of the brain, and in the beginning they would target healthy tissue, while these modern procedures are more about simply severing unhealthy sections. Lobotomy was also primarily about saving money by turning violent patients into docile vegetables, while the modern version actually is about fixing problems (by poking around in the brain).
 
LaughJoke2.0 said:
Let's always remember the Nazis looked at Troon surgeries and said "Yeah this shit is too sick and twisted even for us.".
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To be fair, one of the doctors responsible for some early amhole surgery went on to performing other fun human experiments for the Nazis (blanking on his name rn).
Also, I would advise those people who share these misinformation tweets to read up on it, this place was not a bastion for gay and trans rights and even their hero Magnus Hirschfeld had crazy theories about homosexuality and thought it's something that can be cured.
 
Tragi-Chan said:
It’s a confluence, I think. Obviously there’s the fact that troons just keep pushing their luck, to the point where even a lot of liberal, left-wing people are getting peaked. Huge amounts of money and effort are being put into placating a tiny and unpleasable minority at the expense of the majority. People are sick of being scolded by people who do nothing. Meanwhile, troons are unwilling to take out their own trash - they won’t accept that, for instance, maybe some of these trans women in prison who commit rape may not have had pure motives for trooning out.

But there’s also a political motivation for it. The UK government is frankly dogshit. Public services are in disarray, the economy’s been tanked at least twice as a direct result of the government’s actions and the Conservative Party is tearing itself apart. The trans backlash is an easy way to regain some favour - the people who object wouldn’t have voted Conservative anyway, and the Labour Party make fools of themselves whenever the subject is brought up.
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There's also the third reason: The fastest growing demographic in the UK.

Turns out, if you want to keep Abdullah and Mohammad on your side to vote for you, you kinda need to tone down the whole "gay rights" and "trans women are women" thing.
 
Susanna said:
"Lobotomy" is actually a fairly common treatment for the most severe forms of epilepsy. For example hemispherectomy consists of severing one half of the brain from the brainstem. It's genuinely quite effective, and more than half of the people who get it will no longer have seizures. Most are still able to walk, talk, read, etc, and it's usually a marked improvement in quality of life over what they had before. Short of that, though, there are also neurosurgical procedures (such as subpial transections) that target specific parts of the brain. I guess the argument is, where you draw the line precisely, because there is some overlap. Lobotomy is about destroying a part of the brain, and in the beginning they would target healthy tissue, while these modern procedures are more about simply severing unhealthy sections. Lobotomy was also primarily about saving money by turning violent patients into docile vegetables, while the modern version actually is about fixing problems (by poking around in the brain).
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While true, it is treating an entirely different issue, lobotomy as it was used in the past was a "cure all" for mental illness; epilepsy is not a psychological illness.

As for what a lobotomy is specifically, it is also called a leucotomy, and it targets specifically the prefrontal cortex, there are many ablation procedures that target various areas of the brain for various reasons like the ones you cited, but they aren't lobotomies. Nevermind that we don't really jam icepicks into people's eye sockets anymore but rather target fronto-thalamic or fronto-cingulate fibers with stereotactic procedures instead. (note: you likely know this but I'm specifying for anyone else reading)

I would personally not call a cingulotomy or MST a lobotomy even if you are targeting the prefrontal cortex in either case, there's a fairly sizeable difference in outcome when the method and pathway you poke around with differ.
 
Positron said:
Electroconvulsive therapy is useful for refractory depression, especially in the days when we didn't have that many antidepressants as we do today.
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I have a friend who is a psychiatrist and he administers ECT. He swears that if he was suffering from the kind of protracted, severe, life-threatening depression that they use ECT for, he wouldn't hesitate to have it himself. As with most modalities, it doesn't work for everybody, but for some people it works when nothing else will.

Pretty sure he told me all of his patients were voluntary. Many had had previous ECT treatment episodes.
 
jertzog said:
The alternative is a single unisex washroom with cubicles for all, where women still have to cross paths with these perverts (and a shitload of men too). The renovation is costly, undoing it someday will be even costlier, and being a normal person not wanting any part of it will be aggravating.
Though I don't really care about how women take either situation because they keep voting for it.
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I've been in one of these, and it was one of the most uncomfortable experiences I've ever had in a bathroom. I was just there to wash my hands, but all I could think was "I do not belong here."

Honestly, if I walk into an open public bathroom that isn't single occupancy and I don't see a urinal or trough, I will think I've walked into the wrong bathroom by accident.
 
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