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King Koopa said:
Otherkin was absorbed into the current DID fad, where headmates based on fictional characters are called "fictives" last time I checked. Factkins used to be shamed, because they were claiming to kin real life person that they didn't actually know, but now they can have a headmate that's a minecraft youtuber (e.g. Dream, TommyInnit) and nobody can hate on them for it. If you say any of this is fake or stupid, they'll just point to DID/OSDD in the DSM and call you a dirty ableist.

People who were kin with animals are still around, but some of them moved back to therian, or have unironically started calling themselves "transspecies", see below:
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This was posted a few hours ago by a blog I follow. They're dedicated to posting horse figurines, so... I assume they identify as a horse?
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They identify as equine, cattle, AND swine?

Yeah, I'd definitely default to sow.
 
grenouille crétine said:
How do people backup/post videos here? That’s just a regular YT link.
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1. Download the video by googling [name of platform] downloader. For YouTube, this works (ignore all suggestions to install shit, extra pages opening etc). Make sure you grab a mid-range resolution such as 720 or even 360, so the file isn’t enormous. If you’re on an Apple device, save it from Downloads to your photo roll.

2. When creating your post, hit the three dots to reveal the circled option below. This is your uploaded tool. Put your cursor where you want it to appear.

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3. Select your video, hit upload, and hope it’s not too big and the site is not fucking up. It should insert into the post where your cursor is. Here’s one I made earlier.

 
AMHOLIO said:
If she had other complications like an eating disorder, lots of strees, or bad genes she could get extra fucked over.
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grenouille crétine said:
People were awful to her in the comments last I checked, I don’t use Twitter so I can’t easily see them now. Stuff like accusing her of being a TIM and calling her a pervert.
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I know at the end of the day, it's just clothes, but there's something about her appearance here that makes me feel a little melancholy? She's dressed like a mall goth, which although not my aesthetic is age appropriate, but that's not what I see in the picture. I see a woman who is probably immature and stuck in the past. Or as my former coworker would say, "She looks like she's been ridden hard and put away wet."

Her dressing very femininely is also interesting to me? My experience IRL has been butch lesbians pooning out, which isn't a huge leap clothing/appearnacewise. Do FtMtFs usually dress more stereotypically femininely?
 
Mellow Malevolent said:
Are otherkin still a thing, I felt like that fad disappeared in the mid-2010s. I so long for otherkin to make their mainstream debut because I want to see how the trans movement would parse them. Maybe they should start threatening to kill themselves, that would get the respect
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I think Therians are the new hotness for people that pretend to be animals. Sadly I'm not sure if trans animal is going to catch on much but you never know.
 
As documented in the RDS thread, British troon lunatic India Willoughby announced he was taking a week-long flounce from Xitter:

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Since then, he's been tweeting at a faster pace, seething with narcissistic rage after a losing week for the trannies of Terf Island. Mental breakdown may be in progress.

Troonsperg highlights:

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He paranoiacally believes he's been "shadowbanned", on the word of a totally Reliable Source. Ignores possibility that his interactions might be reduced by his mass-blocking habits:

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Not clear what the ominous "other steps" are, since he's not shadowbanned at all.

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TERFs are Eric Clapton, because font color:

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You totally can't tell trans women from women, unless you're India:

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Turns out bitching about a woman's appearance is OK after all:

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Might as well end it all:

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Something transphobic about having a conservatory, I guess?

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Everyone sucks except India:

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What does he means that the exact same drugs will be available to cis kids? Why would cis kids need Lupron? This is wording it like the law saw "trans kids must go through puberty, cis kids can choose not to for shits and giggles".
 
Mellow Malevolent said:
What does he means that the exact same drugs will be available to cis kids? Why would cis kids need Lupron? This is wording it like the law saw "trans kids must go through puberty, cis kids can choose not to for shits and giggles".
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Troons are trying to create a myth there will be discrimination in treatment of precocious puberty.
 
ScooterL said:
Troons are trying to create a myth there will be discrimination in treatment of precocious puberty.
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I think they're arguing why is it okay for "cis" kids to take puberty blockers for a medical reason but not "trans kids".
 
Poonocchio said:
Puberty blockers are used in precocious puberty.
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ScooterL said:
Troons are trying to create a myth there will be discrimination in treatment of precocious puberty.
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Yes this is what they are alluding to. Very disingenuous. The target of this legislation are the specific treatment modalities of gender affirming care, they are not in any way targeted towards trans kids. They're trying to syllogize this to other cases where laws were worded in a way so that their effect was discriminatory even if their text was not, but this is flatly not the case here. The statement is direct and clear, the state does not believe that these treatments alleviate harm and in fact cause it.

I guess I'm just annoyed that trannies will crow about how this is harming trans kids when the direct purpose of it is to protect them from mutilation. Hell, you can see with Jazz Jennings that arresting puberty doesn't even help with transitioning all the time.

Total fucking insanity.
 
Now, is this a case of India being genuinely concerned about the lack of trans voices in this debate, or is this simply a slightly Alan Partrigian attempt by India to advertise himself to television producers as a trans voice and get his over-Botoxed Chucky-esque fizog back on the gogglebox? "I'm a media whore with no punters! Put me on the telly! Put me on the telly!"

Or, is it a little of column A, a little of column B?

Personally, I would heartily encourage India to put himself forward for consideration in televised debates about trans issues, so we can all watch him get his arse handed to him by Kellie-Jay Keen. AGAIN.

 
Mellow Malevolent said:
Yes this is what they are alluding to. Very disingenuous. The target of this legislation are the specific treatment modalities of gender affirming care, they are not in any way targeted towards trans kids. They're trying to syllogize this to other cases where laws were worded in a way so that their effect was discriminatory even if their text was not, but this is flatly not the case here. The statement is direct and clear, the state does not believe that these treatments alleviate harm and in fact cause it.

I guess I'm just annoyed that trannies will crow about how this is harming trans kids when the direct purpose of it is to protect them from mutilation. Hell, you can see with Jazz Jennings that arresting puberty doesn't even help with transitioning all the time.

Total fucking insanity.
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Oh, my mistake, I thought you were asking a question haha. I need sleep, apologies!
 
Esqueer is claiming he got hold of the Cass Review, so uploading it here so we have a copy. For future reference of what they are complaining about. I believe this is maybe the shortened press version that journos have been commenting on. I am not sure though. There’s been a lot of cope from that side that no trannys were consulted.
 

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I know at the end of the day, it's just clothes, but there's something about her appearance here that makes me feel a little melancholy? She's dressed like a mall goth, which although not my aesthetic is age appropriate, but that's not what I see in the picture. I see a woman who is probably immature and stuck in the past. Or as my former coworker would say, "She looks like she's been ridden hard and put away wet."

Her dressing very femininely is also interesting to me? My experience IRL has been butch lesbians pooning out, which isn't a huge leap clothing/appearnacewise. Do FtMtFs usually dress more stereotypically femininely?
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I said when I was first posting (from memory) about that video that while the clothing would not be my choice for a public speaking event, it is still age-appropriate. It simply doesn’t look it:(Chloe Cole tends to dress very femininely as well, and I notice her broad shoulders/flat chest more sometimes because of it. She has talked about it herself so I’m not trying to unduly nitpick. (I know most farmers don’t feel the need to pull their punches nor do I expect it, but holy shit do I feel sad for these girls.)

Depending on the person, the reasoning seems to be anything from “I [truly] did not experience my own female childhood/adolescence, so this is something I never got to do” to the more utilitarian simply trying to consistently pass as female. One case I remember seeing on Twitter pissed me off, as it was a detrans maaaaybe 18-year-old who started live-streaming in skimpy outfits and posting cosplay pics that attracted a bunch of coomers. A lot of people were encouraging her to keep doing that to “explore her femininity”🤢, but the women (including detrans ones) saying that she was just picking a different poison got shouted down. The kid of course picked the side giving her more attention (the coomers), so that was that. No idea how she’s doing now.
 
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I think they're arguing why is it okay for "cis" kids to take puberty blockers for a medical reason but not "trans kids".
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Yet they offer no evidence a child needing that treatment for a genuine reason such as precocious puberty would even have the fake categories of "trans" or "cis" assessed. A fish-faced selfie is the best argument India has.
 
I didn't intend to, but after posting that video of India Willoughby debating Kellie-Jay Keen on daytime TV, I ended up going down a bit of a rabbithole, watching some of his other television appearances. He was the first transgender panelist on a British lunchtime show for female audiences called 'Loose Women' (arguably, he was the loosest woman, because he has to dilate), and there are a few clips on YouTube that are worth watching, because he is deranged in all of them.

That first debate with Kellie-Jay, he's putting on this slightly shy, unsure, feel-sorry-for-me act (ironically, acting quite 'mousey', something he accuses real women of being on Twitter nowadays), but here, he is in his element, holding court over a group of women who HAVE to listen to what he has to say, and the raging narcissism and histrionic personality comes seeping out. Big sweeping gestures with his arms when he talks, loud, clear voice, "Let's all talk about meeee!!"


In this clip, he's discussing dating as a transgender woman with guest-panelist, troon-troglodyte Frank, now Kelly Maloney, a former boxing promoter (who even in his 'Mrs Nesbitt'-style get-up, still comes across as one of the blokiest blokes to ever "A'wight mate?!"). Frank, by the way, is a nasty piece of work in his own right (I mean, it goes without saying, I s'pose, since he trooned out), but it's really funny seeing him next to the self-obsessed attention-vacuum that is India, because he comes across as quite reasonable by comparison. India, of course, doesn't understand why you would ever divulge your trans status to someone you're going on a date with, and then claims to have got advice on love from Boy George, of all people. The same Boy George who did 15 months in prison for holding a male prostitute prisoner in his flat, beating and raping him while he was handcuffed to a radiator.

Oh, speaking of, Kelly later chimes in by saying that he doesn't have a partner, but he doesn't really want one (which totally isn't a cope because no one would have him) and then says that if he wants to lose his virginity, he'll just go hire a prostitute, which, I think we can all agree, is a very fem-brained thing to say.
 
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Adding - For a terrifyingly short period of time, because they have always been understood to be seriously dangerous and even when given for a short time, to potentially have significant long term results. No one viewed this as something to monkey with until the fragile narcissist wing of the UK medical profession got involved.
 
Imagine choosing a troon name for yourself and coming up with "India", of all things. What's India the country best known for? Having a rape problem and being full of shit...
 
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