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The neighborhood bodega, a telltale measure of who is (and isn’t) an “authentic” New Yorker​

For many New Yorkers, their local bodega holds a special place in their hearts. The bodega is more than just your average convenience store — or, god forbid, the tiny corner-store-sized Whole Foods Market Daily Shop. It’s a testament to the city’s vibrant immigrant communities, a cultural hub that’s steeped in rich history and filled with love from generations past. Where supermarkets are closed, the bodegas are open. Not to mention that these local stores are also home to some of New York’s most iconic dishes: chopped cheese, bacon-egg-and-cheese and chicken cutlets, just to name a few. Even amid a ruthless pandemic, the bodega persevered and continued to serve as the backbone of NYC. So it makes sense why bodega culture is such a big deal amongst city dwellers. Where you go and, most importantly, what you get matters.

In recent weeks, bodegas have been a major topic of discussion online thanks to Jennifer Lopez. The singer, actor and dancer is being ruthlessly ridiculed over what she claims is her go-to bodega order. Lopez quickly became a laughingstock on TikTok following the release of her musical film “This Is Me... Now: A Love Story,” which critics described as “confusing” and straight up ludicrous. The trolling intensified after a clip from her latest documentary “The Greatest Love Story Never Told” went viral for once again being straight up ludicrous. In it, Lopez, who appears to be at the gym, takes her hair down and says: “I like taking my hair out like this. It reminds me like, when I was 16 in The Bronx running up and down the block.” Cue the jokes, recreations and impersonations.

Turns out, no one knows what Lopez is talking about. Fellow New Yorkers pointed to Lopez’s choice of sandwich, which they claimed was “basic” in comparison to other signature bodega offerings. “Anybody that’s really from New York — I’m from Brooklyn, she’s from the Bronx, whatever — knows that it’s not just a ham and cheese sandwich. It comes with a whole bunch of other stuff after it and it just rolls off the tongue,” explained TikTok creator WellWithTiffany. Many took issue with Lopez’s choice of beverage, which they said could be a multitude of things — Crush Orange Soda? SunnyD? Fanta Orange? Sunkist Orange Soda? Some even questioned whether she was actually from New York. “So she might not still be Jenny from the block,” wrote one user on Reddit.

Several individuals who also grew up in the city amid the 80s and 90s defended Lopez’s order, saying ham and cheese on a roll is actually really good. Same with the unnamed orange drink, which is apparently really sweet and “kind of like orange soda but without fizz.” Regardless, Lopez along with her order were still lambasted as peak cringe.

Celebrities attempting to be relatable to us average folks isn’t anything uncommon. “Celebrities, they're just like us!" many will proclaim. Except they’re not because oftentimes, their efforts come across as out-of-touch and awkward. The same can be said for celebrities attempting to prove their nativism to a certain city (i.e. Hilaria Baldwin). New York, like many major cities, has its own smell-test of sorts. And the bodega is just one aspect of it — a gauge of who is (and isn’t) an “authentic” New Yorker.

Prior to Lopez, the internet questioned whether former Democratic presidential hopeful Andrew Yang was actually a New Yorker after he posted a video of himself shopping at what he described as a bodega. “Can you imagine a New York City without bodegas?” he said, after buying green tea and bananas. But the midtown shop, which the New Yorker's Michael Schulman wrote is a Yemeni-owned establishment, looked too sleek and spacious for some viewers, prompting many to accuse Yang of not knowing what a “real” bodega is.

The infamous incident, known as “bodega-gate,” subsequently pushed Yang to prove just how much of a New Yorker he truly is. Yang posted about sampling pickles on the Lower East Side and visiting a food pantry in Flushing. “I’m learning a lot about my city,” he tweeted at the time. He also rode a bicycle (“this is my commute,” he said).

Following his bodega flop, Yang responded to the roastings with a simple, “Haha I love New York” (alongside a smiley face). As for Lopez, she has yet to respond to the ridicule — and probably won’t do so anytime soon. Perhaps the most New Yorker thing about her is that she’s mastered the art of being unbothered.
 
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Imagine wanting to be and braging about being an 'authenitc new yorker'

Might as well brag about having a prolapsed ass because you enjoy getting fisted every day, it'd probably be less expensive, and involves less homeless people and human feces.
 
New York City has so much interesting culture and history but all the people living there just go on about MUH CORNER STORES and MUH ACCENT.
 
Cool.

So can we start talking about who is and isn't an authentic American now?
 
I gotta say that bodega culture sounds awful.

It sounds like a way for people who don't own cars to get basic shit at a huge markup.

You know what's better than bodega culture?

Getting in my car and driving to the nice Safeway (not the crackhead one) and wandering around the large produce section and buying fresh fruits and vegetables from a section of the store bigger than my house. And then there's more store after that where one can buy all kinds of other things for a reasonable price. If I want a sandwich and I don't feel like buying the ingredients and making one, there is even a deli section.

But no, tell me how great CUP Foods is where you have to step over overdosing fent addicts to get your fat-and-sugar fix. Tell me how great it is to go to the bathroom in one of those places and realize that the man handing you your change with his bare hands has never once washed those hands and he shits in a room that looks like a thousand Bangladeshis died of cholera in there. Tell me how great it is to pay $2500 a month for a 400-square-foot bughive that you can't even cook in, not that you're able to buy raw ingredients anyways.

Cope, seethe, dilate, and fall asleep crying over your single pizza slice.
 
It’s a testament to the city’s vibrant immigrant communities, a cultural hub that’s steeped in rich history and filled with love from generations past.
No, it is a place where people sell their EBT for loose Newports and loiter.

Does this person even live in NY?

I mean sure some were better than others but I do not consider a store with plexiglass between the customer and the clerk a community hub.

Also fuck Salon's ad for Jennifer Lopez and who cares what else.
 
No one in the rest of the country feels so insecure as to claim that their local corner store is an integral part of their lives. It's silly! It really is. The bodega equivalent - a personally owned business that sells an assortment of things - is literally everywhere, and not necessarily in some chain market equivalent. Bait shops, gas stations, boardwalk newspaper stores, etc. I've lived in New York and the bodega is literally no fucking different in the overall experience for the customer from stopping by the county market.

About the only thing that differentiates the NYC - or any significantly dense and over regulated city - variant is that they're usually places where the business and the home above it/within shouting distance shows its influence in the store. Family coming and going, kids doing homework, the 'bodega cat' or variants thereof. It'd actually be interesting for people who aren't terminally self-obsessed assholes to read about why urban zoning has gradually choked out similar experiences in other markets and retail spaces.

And if they really want to hype up some uniquely NYC experience to feel smug about, why not jewish delis? The kykes could use a little positive PR, and the one place that goes against the typical jewish stinginess and meanness of spirit is the NYC deli experience. Though I expect the prices/quality have risen/dropped lately, since the whole business model of cheap and plentiful food served up with recipes good enough to have been included in a dowry back in shtetl times has sunk due to NYC squeezing out everything other than service/finance services and even kykes wanting to shed any hint of European cultural influences.
 
You forgot the problem of the Negro tax. Stores with low profit margins are basically impossible to run in areas that niggers and their ilk infest.
Nah, its possible. You just force the people willing to pay to cover the cost of theft. That is why a Convenience store in New York will charge you 4.99 for a slam can of Bud Lite, while a convenience store 100 miles away next to the corn field in "redneck land" sells that same slam can for 2.99. This incidentally is also what leads to the bitching about "ghetto stores" scalping the poor minority folx.

Ghetto stores DO charge more then white suburban or rural stores of similar size and composition. But its not because they are racist. Its because they need to pay the crime tax.
 
Ghetto stores DO charge more then white suburban or rural stores of similar size and composition. But its not because they are racist. Its because they need to pay the crime tax.
Most people don't realize that stores/retail factor loss/shrinkage into their business plan; and the higher it is, the more like prison it is with higher prices. I also like a TikTok or whatever it was; some black dude pulls up to a gas station and starts talking about how you can tell its white people area, because they have shelves with product outside the store without being locked up or someone pulling security.
 
New Yorkers taking some utterly pedestrian thing and pretending it's the greatest thing ever because it's in New York remains hilarious.
 
New Yorkers taking some utterly pedestrian thing and pretending it's the greatest thing ever because it's in New York remains hilarious.
See Shake Shack, which is a hipster clone of a Midwestern burger and ice cream chain called Culver’s. They copied literally everything except the price and the decor like buttering the burger buns, the shape and texture of the fries, and using frozen custard instead of ice cream.

New Yorkers brag about it more than Californians brag about In-N-Out or Texans brag about Whataburger, despite Culver’s being superior in every way. The only reason why Shake Shack is more well known is because Culver’s never got venture capital funding and their first location was in Sauk City, Wisconsin, not Central Park, New York so they never got mainstream media articles promoting them.

Despite the fact that Culver’s has almost a thousand locations (compared to Shake Shack’s 262) and has been around since 1984, most New Yorkers have never heard of them and believe that Shake Shack is an original idea. It makes me laugh whenever they hate on “flyover country” and then brag about eating their cuisine.
 
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No, it is a place where people sell their EBT for loose Newports and loiter.

Does this person even live in NY?

I mean sure some were better than others but I do not consider a store with plexiglass between the customer and the clerk a community hub.

Also fuck Salon's ad for Jennifer Lopez and who cares what else.
Whatever twitter user posted that is the very essence of retarded current year liberalism, seeing "love" and "community" in shitty places where there is none, while spitting on any source of actual love and community because the source isn't hipster trendy.
 
These people really do believe that we gaze up at them in their coach-class airliner seats from our cornfields and wish we could some day join them in paying $22.50 for a stale pastrami on rye, don't they?
 
These people really do believe that we gaze up at them in their coach-class airliner seats from our cornfields and wish we could some day join them in paying $22.50 for a stale pastrami on rye, don't they?
"We have Bodegas!" I have what is arguably the best non-chain grocery store in America, that could possibly satisfy Jersh's love for cheese, a short drive from where I live. It's a pleasant experience, there's no bulletproof plexiglass, the prices are a bit higher than a chain, but the international variety is incredible, and if you're so inclined, you can shop with a beer from their tasting booth.

But sure, tell me how great your corner store is. Mine has a monorail.
 
About the only thing that differentiates the NYC - or any significantly dense and over regulated city - variant is that they're usually places where the business and the home above it/within shouting distance shows its influence in the store. Family coming and going, kids doing homework, the 'bodega cat' or variants thereof. It'd actually be interesting for people who aren't terminally self-obsessed assholes to read about why urban zoning has gradually choked out similar experiences in other markets and retail spaces.
I don't even think that is fully an urban thing. At the very least, I know that the local Chinese restaurant in my part of Nowhere, Indiana doubles as the ground floor for the family who owns it, and you can definitely see the influence as the old dining room slowly became increasingly residential. I'm sure there are a lot more family-owned businesses operating on the 1st floor of apartments throughout the desolate wasteland we call Middle America, but of course our superiors in the urban coast certainly have more unique cultures than we could ever hope for!
 
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