Business Major brands deny 'shrinkflation' as Heinz says reducing the number of beans in a tin doesn't count - No additional measures are needed to make it clear that smaller amounts are being sold because changes are already "completely transparent" and listed on the company website, one boss said.

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Major brands have denied so-called "shrinkflation", despite selling smaller quantities of a product for similar prices, saying there was no need for greater transparency as reductions are put online and shoppers are "savvy".

A boss at Kraft Heinz told the MPs at the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee that reducing the percentage of beans in a tin, without bringing down the price, was not shrinkflation.

Instead, the reduction from 51% to 50% beans in a 415g tin was "to make it taste better" and "to improve the quality of our product", said Dominic Hawkins, the UK head of supply chain at the company behind Heinz beans and HP sauce.

When asked by Labour MP Cat Smith about the reduction of Hellman's mayonnaise packaging from 800g to 600g, a boss at the products-maker Unilever did not directly deny shrinkflation, but said the cost of a major ingredient had significantly increased.

"We would never go to using just the pack size to achieve a price if it wasn't justified through the cost", said Marc Woodward, the UK and Ireland head at Unilever.

The maker of Lurpak butter said the removal of 500g packs and introduction of 400g boxes came with a price reduction and was to offer a smaller and cheaper product, according to Bas Padberg, the UK managing director of Arla Foods.

"It is really trying to serve consumers that are tightening their belts... to allow them to continue to get access to the product, and it was effective in that sense."

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Packs of Lurpak at £7.25 in Sainsbury's in 2022. Pic: PA

'Shoppers are super savvy'

When asked if there was a greater need for transparency on pack size reductions, Mr Woodward said any changes made were already "completely transparent".

"We'll put it on our website so that we make sure we're clear about the grammage, and it's on all our tickets."

If this transparency did not exist, consumers would not buy the brands, he added.

"I think if we're not explicit and transparent in what we're doing, then consumers make a choice and they will choose not to buy your brands every time. If they don't feel they're getting value because you've not communicated correctly, then you miss an opportunity."

"Shoppers are super savvy, and they know exactly what's going on," Mr Woodward said.

Another witness giving evidence to the committee said it was for the supermarkets to say whether to have the pence per 100g cost in bigger writing.

Profit and cost of living pressures

When pressed about rising profits among the big brands, amid a cost of living crisis, Mr Hawkins said his company had "always passed on less than the inflation we've seen".

Many households have been under intense financial pressures as prices rose, and remained high after the invasion of Ukraine.

While overall inflation fell back to 4% in December, food inflation was double that, at 8%, having been at a 45-year high of 19.2% in March last year.

High energy costs and wage bills made food production more expensive - a cost that is in large part borne by the end consumer.

Use of foodbanks is at record levels as people struggle to afford food as well as energy bills, which remain above historic averages.

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I always thought products were measured and weighed by volume. Filling products with air or dilute it to maximize profit.

Heinz could take out a few beans, then fill it with something.
 
"We would never go to using just the pack size to achieve a price if it wasn't justified through the cost",
Years ago I worked for a grocery store. That year dairyland decided they were going to remove the handles from their 4L ice cream buckets. Customers were upset. Most people bought the ice cream just for the buckets. So I asked the dairyland guy why they took the handles off. He said that they figured out they could save exactly 1 cent per bucket. This worked out to be something like $15,000,000/year they figured they would save not including a handle on the bucket. Adjusting the pack size to achieve a price is 100% something food companies will do.

The funny thing is, those accountants that figured that out didn't seem to realize that those handles were a big selling point. Those buckets sold less than half as many that year. I still would be interested to know if they ever actually made money off that like they thought.
 
lol, yeah, everybody is going to check out the website to see if the size changed. I didn't even know Heinz or Hellman's had a website.

Shrinkflation is just collusion between state and corporate power to hide inflation caused by money printing. Nothing more, nothing less. By law they should be required to disclose the reduction in package size in big bold letters on the front.

Weird how it has become more and more prevalent with less competition in the industry, huh?
 
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.
 
The funny thing is, those accountants that figured that out didn't seem to realize that those handles were a big selling point. Those buckets sold less than half as many that year. I still would be interested to know if they ever actually made money off that like they thought.
The really awful thing is that they may simply not care, in one sense. I’ve tried to get things through at work that would genuinely save us a lot of money and be more effective and less annoying - and been denied because although it would save us say half a million over the next year, the initial cost of implementation is a slight rise for the upcoming quarter. There are plenty of companies that are literally that short sighted. The first time I came across this I struggled to believe it become seems to completely insane - surely, I thought, the larger gain or loss over a year would be what they looked at?
Nope. Literally just the next quarter red or black.
 
The really awful thing is that they may simply not care, in one sense. I’ve tried to get things through at work that would genuinely save us a lot of money and be more effective and less annoying - and been denied because although it would save us say half a million over the next year, the initial cost of implementation is a slight rise for the upcoming quarter. There are plenty of companies that are literally that short sighted. The first time I came across this I struggled to believe it become seems to completely insane - surely, I thought, the larger gain or loss over a year would be what they looked at?
Nope. Literally just the next quarter red or black.
They're probably so disconnected from what the products actually are that even if you explained it to them they might not even understand let alone care.
 
So now that sheep have caught on, the brands claim that nothing happened. And yet, I have to pay 4 times more for a 1.5l bottle of coke that used to be 2.5l.
 
So now that sheep have caught on, the brands claim that nothing happened. And yet, I have to pay 4 times more for a 1.5l bottle of coke that used to be 2.5l.
Well, we all know the media would double down like nothing is happen because Biden is in office and they want to make him look confident. Wait until Trump is reelected and in office, you'll see journalists left and right crying how businesses are screwing the customers.
 
I always thought products were measured and weighed by volume. Filling products with air or dilute it to maximize profit.

Heinz could take out a few beans, then fill it with something.
the cheaper brands already do this adjusting their bean to sauce ratios. The beans and sauce are measured and added separately, trivial for them to twist a few dials.
 
I always thought products were measured and weighed by volume. Filling products with air or dilute it to maximize profit.

Heinz could take out a few beans, then fill it with something.
I was going to say, when it comes to canned goods, they've always gone by weight, not number of pieces..... just like how bagged chips go by weight..... so they can get away with using the same bags in perpetuity and just pumping in more air.....

Well, we all know the media would double down like nothing is happen because Biden is in office and they want to make him look confident. Wait until Trump is reelected and in office, you'll see journalists left and right crying how businesses are screwing the customers.
Just like the great breakfast cereal price-hiking conspiracy (that wasn't) - it only got headlines because Bush II was in office.....
 
The more fucked up cousin to shrinkflation is the changing of something that was food to a "food product" two examples the first being with ice cream now by law there has to be a certain percentage of butterfat in the milk for it to be legally marketed as ice cream so what do they do? PRESTO CHANGE-O IT'S A FROZEN DAIRY DESSERT know that that means? not enough butterfat. The other is in chocolate Terrys chocolate oranges aren't that anymore they're Terrys chocolately orange flavored something or other know why? Same shit there isn't the legal required amount of coco butter in it to be called chocolate.
 
These niggas eatin' 1% fewer beans.

He said that they figured out they could save exactly 1 cent per bucket. This worked out to be something like $15,000,000/year they figured they would save not including a handle on the bucket.
Unless they were producing 1,500,000,000 buckets of ice cream per year, I think this math is off. Assuming the handle is that type that's basically a plastic band with loops on the ends that snap onto pegs on the bucket rim, I could easily see those having a per piece cost of ~$0.05 to $0.10. Sorry to nitpick - cost analysis/reduction is how I make my living. There are intelligent ways to reduce cost which don't impact quality (real or perceived) or otherwise upset the customer base through removing a key selling point. Dairyland obviously did not understand or appreciate the desires of their customers, and from you've said their brilliant cost reduction idea ended up being a sales reduction idea.
 
The more fucked up cousin to shrinkflation is the changing of something that was food to a "food product" two examples the first being with ice cream now by law there has to be a certain percentage of butterfat in the milk for it to be legally marketed as ice cream so what do they do? PRESTO CHANGE-O IT'S A FROZEN DAIRY DESSERT know that that means? not enough butterfat. The other is in chocolate Terrys chocolate oranges aren't that anymore they're Terrys chocolately orange flavored something or other know why? Same shit there isn't the legal required amount of coco butter in it to be called chocolate.
A really stupid one I noticed was "chocolate chips" being changed to "chocolate-y chips" because they outright stopped using chocolate.
 
Can’t shrinkflate produce and meat. It just gets more expensive. At least I’m not getting bamboozled like happens with these processed goyslop products.

I say bring on the shrinkflation to potato chips and Oreos. We all should eat less of it anyway.
 
I'm not sure if this counts as shrinkflation, but Aldi in Australia now sells 30 packs of Australian cheese slices. These used to be 24 packs. Still weighs the same as the old packs (500g), but the cheese slices are now thinner. They went up in price around the same time this happened.

Maybe it's just good old inflation rather than shrinkflation, but spreading the same net weight of contents a little more thinly seems quite similar to what Heinz is doing here. However in Aldi's defense, it's not like they're taking any cheese away from the customer.

tbh I'm used to the thinner slices, and actually prefer them to the standard thickness slices in brand name 24 packs
 
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