💪 Tough Guys Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

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What you, myself, and others here think is a legit purpose doesn't matter in a courtroom that becomes the job of the finder of fact. I hear Quasi's dad has the ability to find facts so perhaps he can get asked?
Also, lack of a legitimate purpose is not sufficient to establish harassment. You really don't need a "legitimate purpose," or any purpose at all for that matter, to exercise protected free speech. "I fuckin' felt like it bitch" is entirely sufficient.
 
I quite like the new nickname, "Cornball."
Other people do not have a burden to not contact you, Rick makes himself publicly available and does nothing to stop it, so a reasonable person would conclude that he is open to being contacted.
I've oft wondered how Pat reacts to genuine randos knocking on his door. I'm talking Girl Scouts selling cookies, Mormons, people handing out flyers and posters, someone looking for their lost pet, etc. Wonder if the UPS guy has ever gotten stalker childed?
 
Bachowski with "In this case the judge concluded that Salamone's repeated yelling at Bachowski constituted harassment."
The Supreme Court of Wisconsin (Your own link) says that this was reversed. Whether or not the Judge’s finding was true, it was reversed because her decision was based on “lmao, I felt like it”, and she pretty much rewrote the petitioners petition to get them the win. She also made the injunction unconstitutionally broad stripping the injured party from all 1st amendment protections.
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I quite like the new nickname, "Cornball."

I've oft wondered how Pat reacts to genuine randos knocking on his door. I'm talking Girl Scouts selling cookies, Mormons, people handing out flyers and posters, someone looking for their lost pet, etc. Wonder if the UPS guy has ever gotten stalker childed?
Those poor girl scouts as the man you're trying to sell cookies to rants about stalkers and how he's gonna make them enjoy prison. Sucks to be his neighbors I bet
 
It's after 10am in Wisconsin right now which means at this very moment Pat is onstage talking about alien herpes to an excited crowd of hundreds.

I assume he's both hungover and mad about the Packers and the room is empty.
 
It's after 10am in Wisconsin right now which means at this very moment Pat is onstage talking about alien herpes to an excited crowd of hundreds.

I assume he's both hungover and mad about the Packers and the room is empty.

I wonder if he is pissed off they won’t bring him meatloaf from hooligans?
 
Yesterday was the 4th anniversary of the thread, what are your fav moments of Patty the Fatty throughout the years (be it before or after the thread was made)? Mine are, in no particular order: The Micropenis Flash Incident, Gay Masturbation porn piece and "I am not in your gay porn, stalker, these are just your delusions again", "You aren't my toilet, stalker" (I think it's one of the best Patposting and Patquotes to date), the day Pig was ordered to pay Quasi and Pat's quotes turned into AI songs.
 
Like I know Fatrick is a low IQ retard, but who's gonna argue with an obvious joke gimmick account mockingly pretending to be his toilet? I have to believe that he coped so hard to try to avoid the thought of owing quasi money, that his brain broke.

He once said the line "You are not a toilet, stalker" to that account. He's also said "You are not a liver, stalker" to the Twitter account - Pat'sDecayingLiver

His sole reason for being birthed into this world was to one day grow up and blossom into a golden lolpig. You couldn't write a better retard.
 
I don’t know what it is, but every time i check his twitter replies and see “stalker” or “child” it’s incredibly funny to me. Is this Pat-nosis?
 
Yesterday was the 4th anniversary of the thread, what are your fav moments of Patty the Fatty throughout the years (be it before or after the thread was made)? Mine are, in no particular order: The Micropenis Flash Incident, Gay Masturbation porn piece and "I am not in your gay porn, stalker, these are just your delusions again", "You aren't my toilet, stalker" (I think it's one of the best Patposting and Patquotes to date), the day Pig was ordered to pay Quasi and Pat's quotes turned into AI songs.
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The Supreme Court of Wisconsin (Your own link) says that this was reversed.

My 1st take at this point is the "no contact whatsoever" was reversed because of the broadness of the injunction not the fact found was wrong. This text "Thus, we conclude the injunction is drafted too broadly and is therefore invalid." is why.


The decision from 1987 also has language that is more supportive of 'just talk is not harassment':

The judge stated at the hearing that Salamone's yelling across the street constituted harassment. (this would be riding the ride - the ride went to the wisconsin supremes. Is that a ride one wants to take?)

The money shot for "just speech" from a Wisconsin Supreme Court Judge is this:

I conclude that secs. 813.125(1)(b) and 947.013(1)(b), Stats. 1985-86, define harassment to encompass conduct and acts only, not verbal communication. Because this case involves only speech, the case does not fall within the statutes as I believe the statutes should be interpreted.

The "anti money shot" is this:

The majority needlessly reads a constitutional defect into the statutes by construing the statutes to cover verbal communications.


The position of covering verbal was the majority position: ouch.

I'd have to go pull the file if it even exists anymore to see if your take is correct the whole damn thing got reversed VS the injunction got tossed due to the broad language. And that's been part of the problem with Patrick and Jackie - they have not bothered to look at caselaw or even filed cases to see what arguments the DA takes. And even if one looks at the caselaw - the statute has changed from '87 to include electronic contact like it is 'conduct and acts'. Not to mention the 2 SCOWI judges who had the 'speech only' take are gone.


I cited it to point out what cases are close/on point to what a 'legitimate purpose' has been found. Neighbors yelling at one another was found as not serving a legitimate purpose by a judge and even the 'I want to alert others to how much this lawyer sucks' LLC in the other case. There is a infamous MKE attorney Alan Eisenberg which might have decisions on-point because part of his actions were 'correcting the record' type thing WRT speech having a legit purpose.

Patrick's "correcting the record" schick over and over to people not following him and blocked with the same claim of being a criminal sure seems like he's harassing others with the LLC/Esinerberg claiming such as a defense. If they have him blocked and he's using other means to read what they said and then responding sure seems like stalking on Patrick's part. Good thing his harassment is fine only for the 1st time. Is Patrick's pathology so far gone he'd keep up his BS after getting a fine for harassment and risk stronger penalties?

Doesn't change the neighbor rode the ride for just speech. And based on the one link (and the SCOWI judge all that happened was talk with a volume.


OFFTOPIC!
Found a NEW case mentioning harassment - Becker.
https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinions/11/pdf/11-2902.pdf The case facts in that link don't at all go to what is happening with Patrick BUT Becker is interesting as he had a blow up in Milwaukee. In Milwaukee the UW staffer lied and the lie of the staffer got him charged criminally. Becker PRO SE beat criminal charges. Let that sink in. A Pro Se beat criminal charges at trial. What is interesting is Becker later used 968.01(3) to try and get the UW staffer charged but got slow rolled 'till the statute of limitations ran.

Oh and from the Becker link "Vice Chancellor Bob Tomlinson" I expect the Pests to make a connection in 24-48 hours even if they just make it up whatever.
 
Yesterday was the 4th anniversary of the thread, what are your fav moments of Patty the Fatty throughout the years (be it before or after the thread was made)? Mine are, in no particular order: The Micropenis Flash Incident, Gay Masturbation porn piece and "I am not in your gay porn, stalker, these are just your delusions again", "You aren't my toilet, stalker" (I think it's one of the best Patposting and Patquotes to date), the day Pig was ordered to pay Quasi and Pat's quotes turned into AI songs.
It is the simple things that always get me.
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The audio of his neighbor recording him screaming at the cops has got to be top 5 too.
 
He was offline for a few hours for the panel and is now replying to tweets from yesterday. It's literally an obsession with him, he was probably losing his mind not being able to check his phone.

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