💀 Horrorcow JFG / Jean-Francois Gariepy / jfgariepyneuro / The French Pervert / The Public Space - Warski's Abusive Ex-BF, Racist Streamer, Failed Academic, Potato Masher, Kristi Winter's BFF, Kero Defender

[chalkyresidue]

fled his abuse

That’s an angle that’s worth considering.
She’s a mentally ill person of limited faculties who occasionally reached a frantic level of panic on livestreams. He’s a controlling creep who cuts her down and seems to have kept her isolated from the outside world.

Typically when a woman in an abusive relationship has had enough and splits, she knows she has access to all kinds of social services and such and brings along her children. But Elora was a potato.

JF could have been keeping her on a leash by tell her ANY NUMBER of things: the feds know you did the racist spray painting and they’re looking for you! The government will control you if you go to them! I have fans in every city who will find you and get you for your unforgivable crime of leaving me! Think about how serial killers get girlfriends or kidnapping victims to stick around and help them commit crimes. When the girls turn states evidence on them it’s always the same thing; I was irrationally afraid for my life to leave!!
Based purely on the fact that JF gives off big kidnapper energy (not to mention the whole inseminating retards thing) I think it’s plausible that she might have taken off and gone to ground, telling strangers alarming sob stories about revolutionary phenotypes coming to get her

If she was in a state similar to the one in the No White Guilt video, might she have bugged out and demanded to be turned loose, no matter the cost? You’d think an hour’s car ride would cool things off, but what if things reached fever pitch in the middle of a drive?

Everyone also keeps mentioning how hard it is to believe she’d leave behind the kids. However the Gariepy “family project” doesn’t seem like a normal family situation. Has there been anything decisive to show that the children she’s had do in fact live with them?

Have we ruled out that the “family project” isn’t just a matter of breeding lots of spuds and then dropping them off with Grandma/Social Services?

 

[Marley Whorenstein]

Unfamiliar with Canada, but does the RCMP have a good track record say within the past 5 years of actually trying to solve hard cases? I just think to many left leaning American cities where the unsolved crimes have been growing amidst a the backdrop of anti-police & pro-equity related policies.

The RCMP are federal, so they have access to a lot of resources. Considering the murder rate in PEI is ZERO, the police wouldn't have much experience unless they transferred from a bigger crime city. Because there is such a low crime rate, one assumes they would have more time to dedicate to the investigation.

"In 2022, homicide rate for Prince Edward Island was 0 per 100 000 population. Though Prince Edward Island homicide rate fluctuated substantially in recent years, it tended to decrease through 1973 - 2022 period ending at 0 per 100 000 population in 2022.""

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Cell phone location can be - and has been - forged.

Sure you could use an ISMI device, but as I have said elsewhere - your financial records would highlight the fact you bought one. These are specialist bits of kit, and while fairly easy to acquire, would generally leave a trace as you'll be getting one from Alibaba not Target.

Source Suitcase Backpack Ismi Signal Catcher ... - Alibaba.com https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...Ismi-Signal-Catcher-Mobile_1600743656260.html

However, as far as I am aware this would only work to spoof cell site mapping, or perhaps put you a cell tower out the way, as you are effectively creating a fake cell tower that acts as a MITM.

The issue though is how do you acquire such a device without it being detected. Police wouldn't just look at cellphones, internet activity and financial activity would also be part of the investigation. If they find you bought one of these devices it absolutely is going to factor into the investigation. (I suspect a $5000 purchase from Alibaba would be detected).

Even if Elora's cell phone did text JF, he could have simply driven to a location and texted himself.

Sure he could have - but the Police would look at the locations and look at how feasible it would be to travel between the two. That wouldn't fool anyone.

he could have pre-programmed the phone to send out texts at certain times and later driven out and disposed of the phone to erase the evidence that the texts were pro-programmed forgeries.

The Kohlberger case is much different, I can see easily how that could of benefitted from pre-programmed texts from his own device, having left it at home, to try and create a digital Alibi.

The situation with Mama JF is different if reported sightings are to be believed that she was last seen in Moncton, driving back and forth would have taken hours.

So the theory is what? He sets up a text emulator on his device at home, goes and kills Mama JF, who he finds somehow despite not communicating with her about this because it would draw attention. He then kills her, and replies to his messages as he moves throughout the countryside. He disposes of her phone, drives back home. All of this without leaving any trace that he did any of it. For instance, who knows what the cell site mapping resolution is around his house - they may be able to tell his phone stopped moving all of a sudden for the duration it would take to get to Elora's phone and back.

So my immediate questions are this, has he also set up emulators on his devices that would mimic his behaviour on his PC, phone, all of his other devices in the house. How would he hide the download of these specialised emulators from his ISP? How would he ensure forensic examination of his devices wouldn't find traces he did all of this? If he hasn't, wouldn't it be odd that all of a sudden all of his devices just stop being used while he is apparently at home.

All of this has the potential to scupper his plan. It's got so many moving parts, that it is genuinely starting to sound like a fucking Oceans 11 film.

Our only source of these text message claims is JF. When JF was asked to show these text messages, he refused.

My point isn't that I trust JF, my point is that the police would be able to easily access these. If it's true they presumably already have. Ultimately, they could get a warrant and access them - regardless, someone would see them.

If he can fake that evidence in a way that also evades detection, then he's basically a master criminal. Personally, I just think he's a sperg who breeds retarded women.

 

[River possum]

Or even made up the phone story and it didn't even happen at all and he just thinks the cops are too dumb to look at his phone records.

Who can say with Canadian police?

 

[American Castration]

The RCMP are federal, so they have access to a lot of resources. Considering the murder rate in PEI is ZERO, the police wouldn't have much experience unless they transferred from a bigger crime city. Because there is such a low crime rate, one assumes they would have more time to dedicate to the investigation.

"In 2022, homicide rate for Prince Edward Island was 0 per 100 000 population. Though Prince Edward Island homicide rate fluctuated substantially in recent years, it tended to decrease through 1973 - 2022 period ending at 0 per 100 000 population in 2022.""

There's always a more sinister way of looking at crime stats: Municipalities cook the books to make their crime rates look lower. This is common even in larger cities. (There was a famous mini-scandal about ten years ago in Chicago where an investigator was sifting through dozens of cases where the deaths were ruled "suicide" and "cause of death unknown" and discovered dozens and dozens of those cases were, in reality, obvious murders, but the C.P.D. was covering it up to keep their official murder rate artificially low.)

Even in regular suburban towns, police will often not formally prosecute if they believe the offender won't repeat. Their motive isn't always just to not overburden the system but, again, to keep the official crime stats artificially low. This keeps property values higher, and also gives the police something to brag about.

Thus, PEI might want to squelch this case so that their official murder rate remains a nice, sparkly, 0.00.

 

[River possum]

There's always a more sinister way of looking at crime stats: Municipalities cook the books to make their crime rates look lower. This is common even in larger cities. (There was a famous mini-scandal about ten years ago in Chicago where an investigator was sifting through dozens of cases where the deaths were ruled "suicide" and "cause of death unknown" and discovered dozens and dozens of those cases were, in reality, obvious murders, but the C.P.D. was covering it up to keep their official murder rate artificially low.)

Even in regular suburban towns, police will often not formally prosecute if they believe the offender won't repeat. Their motive isn't always just to not overburden the system but, again, to keep the official crime stats artificially low. This keeps property values higher, and also gives the police something to brag about.

Thus, PEI might want to squelch this case so that their official murder rate remains a nice, sparkly, 0.00.

I doubt they would do this with this case. They employ those tactics when it comes to non whites. In this case I would assume they'd love to put it at 0.001% if it was a White man that committed the crime.

 

[AnOminous]

If he can fake that evidence in a way that also evades detection, then he's basically a master criminal. Personally, I just think he's a sperg who breeds retarded women.

If he killed her, I don't believe it was some malevolent master plan. Because if he did he apparently did it right in the house and the scene required days of cleaning. I think he did it in a fit of tard rage and then had to spend a couple days coming up with some half-assed scheme to cover it up.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

If he killed her, I don't believe it was some malevolent master plan. Because if he did he apparently did it right in the house and the scene required days of cleaning. I think he did it in a fit of tard rage and then had to spend a couple days coming up with some half-assed scheme to cover it up.

If he did it, I think all this shit he is saying about her texting him will be shown to be a bluff.

I'm just not convinced, JF made the point that if he did kill her then how is the cleaning relevant if she was texting him for the two days following her departure.

I've got to admit, that's a good rebuttal. However, it's all based on what he's saying - the only reason to find any of that credible is the fact noone has arrested him yet.

 

[River possum]

If he killed her, I don't believe it was some malevolent master plan. Because if he did he apparently did it right in the house and the scene required days of cleaning. I think he did it in a fit of tard rage and then had to spend a couple days coming up with some half-assed scheme to cover it up.

Tard rage is exactly what I've been figuring. Maybe she splashed water on one too many laptops and he sperged out, killed her. A second degree murder sort of situation.

 

[chalkyresidue]

In case you’re curious about the RCMP commanding officer for Prince Edward Island, here’s his profile from their website:
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Spoiler: Derek Santosuosso

Commanding Officer​

Chief Superintendent Derek Santosuosso

Chief Superintendent Derek Santosuosso grew up in London, Ontario, and joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 1997. In his 25-year career with the RCMP, he has served in multiple provinces, most recently as the Superintendent in charge of the Operational Support Services Branch with RCMPNewfoundland and Labrador. On June 14, 2022, Chief Superintendent Santosuosso assumed leadership as the Commanding Officer of the Prince Edward Island Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

Chief Superintendent Santosuosso served in the Canadian Forces from 1989 to 1997, leaving at the rank of Captain to join the RCMP. During his RCMPcareer, he has served in general duty in Saskatchewan and British Columbia. He has served in the RCMP's largest detachment, Surry, and Bella Coola, one of its smallest. He has extensive experience in Major Case Management and has instructed at the Canadian Police College on both the Major Crime Investigative Techniques and the Major Case Management Team Commanders courses. He led investigative teams on provincial priority investigations and cold case homicide files while he served in British Columbia.

In 2017, he was promoted to the rank of Inspector, and moved to Newfoundland and Labrador. There, he served as the Officer in Charge of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit – Newfoundland and Labrador (CFSEU-NL), investigating organized crime and internet child exploitation throughout the province. In 2018, he was assigned as the Officer in Charge of the Newfoundland and Labrador RCMP Federal Serious and Organized Crime Unit.

Chief Superintendent Santosuosso holds a Bachelor of Arts honours degree in history from the Royal Military College of Canada, and is an accredited Team Commander. He has two adult children who currently live in British Columbia.

Per some Canadian shit called “SaltWire” he’s had the job since last spring.
I feel a little reassured seeing he was a cold case guy with an interest in fighting “internet child exploitation.”

Good news for ze fameelee projects.

 

[Punished Brent]

so before he dropped her off in the woods with no supplies for an URBAN survival trip she said “I’ll keep in contact with you” and “you should move on and remarry” simultaneously. Leaving him with 2 children under 3 at home and another living with their mom as court therapists found JF too psychotic to allow visitation.
Worst case scenario he murdered her
Best case scenario he convinced her to live in the woods for a little while and just never came back for her, effectively killing her.

 

[American Castration]

So the theory is what? He sets up a text emulator on his device at home, goes and kills Mama JF, who he finds somehow despite not communicating with her about this because it would draw attention. He then kills her, and replies to his messages as he moves throughout the countryside. He disposes of her phone, drives back home. All of this without leaving any trace that he did any of it. For instance, who knows what the cell site mapping resolution is around his house - they may be able to tell his phone stopped moving all of a sudden for the duration it would take to get to Elora's phone and back.

There's too little info to formulate a solid theory of the exact time and method of the presumed murder. Way too little.

The larger point is that JF's claim:
>Elora Patoine sent me text messages two days after her survivalist adventure began. Her text messages told me she was abandoning civilization, didn't want any money, and wanted to be left alone for all time.
....is not remotely credible simply by virtue of the fact that, "These [supposed] messages were sent via her phone, which proves she sent time, and they were sent two days after the [supposed] gas station drop-off, which proves JF didn't murder her at any point before then."

They're not credible because:
>We haven't seen the supposed messages and don't even know they're real
>Text messages can be easily faked via timed-messaging programs
>Even cell phone locations can be faked (albeit this is far less likely, for all the reasons you mentioned).
>The supposed messages she sent JF were incredible and even impossible. They defy all logic.

So my immediate questions are this, has he also set up emulators on his devices that would mimic his behaviour on his PC, phone, all of his other devices in the house. How would he hide the download of these specialised emulators from his ISP? How would he ensure forensic examination of his devices wouldn't find traces he did all of this? If he hasn't, wouldn't it be odd that all of a sudden all of his devices just stop being used while he is apparently at home.

Recall JF's bizarre mention that Elora "played with water" and "destroyed two laptops".

For all of his research and prep work into this murder, he likely did all his Google searches on those now-destroyed laptops, presumably using Tor and a VPN. This would mask his local signal and then he destroyed the hard copy under cover of Elora's "playing with water" and destroying them.

 

[Fake Steve Franssen]

so before he dropped her off in the woods with no supplies for an URBAN survival trip she said “I’ll keep in contact with you” and “you should move on and remarry” simultaneously. Leaving him with 2 children under 3 at home and another living with their mom as court therapists found JF too psychotic to allow visitation.
Worst case scenario he murdered her
Best case scenario he convinced her to live in the woods for a little while and just never came back for her, effectively killing her.

Where is this woods narrative coming from? The potato was dumped at a gas station.

 

[Mr. Faget]

No one actually knows for certain where he dumped the potato, or in how many pieces. This entire thread is masturbatory conjecture until we see some hard evidence.

But he definitely killed her and dumped her in a 5 Guys fry machine.

 

[trash cat]

I personally don't think it's credible to suggest that he spoofed an electronic signature, involving phone usage, MAC addresses and cell site mapping to throw off the police.

I disagree. It's definitely possible to fake an electronic alibi, especially if the RCMP haven't gotten their hands on JF's phone yet.

JF discussed forging an electronic alibi using either macros or something physical to hit the phone screen to indicate physical presence on his interview with Dick Masterson.

It doesn't even have to be that complicated.

No need to forge MAC addresses or cell site mapping. Just keep your phone at home with location and data enabled, autoplaying YouTube, casting to a Roku TV. People do that all the time.

Drive a couple of hours away, turn Elora's phone on, send a couple of fake texts to yourself.

Who knows what JF did exactly (and he probably made mistakes), but each day that goes by, the less chance that Elora will be found, and (I hate to say it), the more likely he will get away with it.

JF didn't need to commit the perfect crime; he just needed to be in the 40% of murders in Canada that never get solved.

 

[American Castration]

JF didn't need to commit the perfect crime; he just needed to be in the 40% of murders in Canada that never get solved.

That's about it. Most of Canada - everything east of the Rockies - is basically Hazelton, PA. It's an aging, dying country being propped up economically by a pyramid scheme of Indians and East Asians, most of whom flee to the U.S. as early as they reasonably can. They haven't the manpower, budget, or even the spirit to do regular civil maintenance like, ya know, investigating and arresting wife murderers.

I made a post that the RCMP detective on the case probably just listened to J.F.'s bullshit stories, did the most rudimentary investigation work, shrugged his shoulders, and went back home to jam some dildos up his ass. I literally think that's what happened, and that J.F. just got away with cold blooded murder. The tired, aging, undermanned, RCMP just threw in the towel 30 seconds into the fight. J.F. wins.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I made a post that the RCMP detective on the case probably just listened to J.F.'s bullshit stories, did the most rudimentary investigation work, shrugged his shoulders, and went back home to jam some dildos up his ass. I literally think that's what happened, and that J.F. just got away with cold blooded murder. The tired, aging, undermanned, RCMP just threw in the towel 30 seconds into the fight. J.F. wins.

The more silence that goes on with this case, the more and more I feel this is the likely outcome. It seems nobody gives a fuck a that the potato is missing. Which is heartbreaking. You'd think Justin Trudeau would be frothing at the mouth for an actual right wing YouTuber to be a murderer. Or maybe Taylor Lorenz or some other journo scum would get off the Hamas train for five minutes to cover this. This is a career making story and from what it seems like, everyone aside from his most diehard fan base is eager for blood. At minimum, it'd be one of the most well deserved cancellings. But nope. Nothing.

 

[aphelion]

I'd like to know what he did with all her stuff at the house. She had to have had clothes and toiletries etc. When he cleaned up her "imprint" from the house, did he just throw it all away not knowing whether she was coming back or not?

 

[Truly Rural]

did he just throw it all away not knowing whether she was coming back or not?

He did it knowing she won't be coming back.

 

[Marley Whorenstein]

Dumb and Dumber do an autistic dive into latest on JF.