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Men Take One Look at Me and Run for the Hills​


Dear How to Do It,

I am an obese woman in my early-30s. I’ve had some sex, and it’s been OK at best. Part of the problem is that I take a very long time to feel attracted to someone (akin to getting crushes with long build-ups) before I can feel a sense of trust and comfort in the bedroom. The bigger part is the immense fatphobia out there and the automatic rejection before anything can even begin. This has caused my dating life to be very meh—I absolutely abhor using dating apps; I almost exclusively match only with creepy men, or men lying about their age, or men with weird vibes that I am not attracted to. The few guys I’ve met up with off apps have been very average dates, even more mediocre sex, and we pretty much ghosted each other after.

I find it hard to open up and enjoy myself fully during sex with a stranger—the one time someone asked me what I liked, I felt myself completely shut down and mumble a nonsense response. Maybe because I come from an Asian household, I struggle with vocalizing my sexual needs. Or maybe because of some weird experiences in college that left me feeling weird about talking about sex. I feel embarrassed and awkward to tell a guy what I like—and that’s why I need to have sex with people I can deeply trust and be vulnerable with. Because I think sex is better for me with partners I truly have feelings for, I am in search of a real relationship. But I find it really hard to meet men in a romantic way organically because no guy ever takes a second look at me because of my size and weight.

I am a confident person, intelligent, and accomplished in my career, have tons of friends and a vibrant social and cultural life. I believe in myself and my self-worth, and other than my appearance I think I could be a catch (not trying to sound egotistical). I have accepted my body with all its flaws, including the medical reasons for obesity, but when it comes to dating or sex, it seems like good men just take one glance at a fat person and go running.

As I get older, it’s more and more impossible to get lucky enough to find “that one person” who will love me for me and all that. All my friends are conventionally attractive, beautiful women who I feel simply cannot relate to my struggles with fatphobia. I just don’t know what more to do—just resign myself to a life without good (or any) sex? Triple my efforts to lose weight, even though it feels like it would be for the wrong reasons? What if I never find a partner?

—Fat and Alone But Really Cool I Promise

Dear Fat and Alone But Really Cool I Promise,

You know who you are, what you need, what you’re after, and what areas you’ll need to work on in order to communicate well with your partners. This is all great.

The fatphobia you describe is real. People are often shallow, and most of the men I’ve known over the years freely admit that they’re superficial when it comes to who they’re willing to get to know in the context of sex and romance. My heart has had a rough go of it recently, so I’m leaning toward the thought that “Most straight dudes are superficial.” They also often want to date women they perceive as more attractive than they perceive themselves to be. It’s patently absurd—the ranking, I mean, though the need to “move up the ladder” is also pretty irritating.

I’m sorry (for you, for me, and for several other people out there) that this is the case. Don’t overexert yourself to fit into society’s expectations. Foster your friendships—including new ones with women who are also fat and whom you can commiserate with about this from a place of lived experience. Get a pet. Get a really good vibrator (or an assortment of vibes, dongs, and other devices) and give yourself good sex.

When you do eventually find someone who is attracted to you, and you are also attracted to, keep an eye out for red flags. The difficulty of dating can encourage us to overlook mismatches and flaws when something does finally seem to work. Communicate about your difficulty communicating, and see how much patience they have for that. Lots of patience is a good sign. You feeling more comfortable with them as time goes on is another good sign. Good luck.

Dear How to Do It,

My husband of eight years and I have a fulfilling if somewhat routine sex life. We know one another’s bodies well. I finish at least once virtually every time. My problem is, I want to be more confident with dirty talking. I have some issues related to talking dirty because of many different instances of harassment and sexual assault. Though early when we were dating I did talk dirty at my husband’s request on maybe two occasions, I broke down and told him I wasn’t comfortable and why. He was very kind and understanding and has never brought it up again. However, I know it’s a big turn-on for him. I know therapy may be the answer, but we’ve tried a couple of times. We went to see a sex therapist about this and he was an older man who opened the session by positing that the issues I described may be because one or both of us are actually gay/lesbian (we are both bisexual). We didn’t return. There is another sex therapist in the area but the waitlist to see them is over six months long.

I want to be comfortable with doing this. I like it when it occurs in erotic media. We recently talked about trying new things in the bedroom and in particular, I want to try assuming the role of a gentle femdom. But how will I do this if I clam up? Though most of our communication in bed is nonverbal, it’s not like I say nothing during sex. I might say “a little to the left” or simpler phrases like “yes,” “oh god,” etc. But as soon as it’s time to say a slang or more overtly sexual word, I simply cannot bring myself to say it. Especially when it comes to describing my own self or acts being performed on me with these words.

—Nervous Talker

Dear Nervous Talker,

Practice talking about sex in overt terms by yourself. Read some erotica that features femdom interaction to get some ideas, or start out by saying the exact lines that appeal to you. Look in the mirror while you do this. Put some feeling into it. Find words and phrases that feel good when you’re saying them.

If nothing feels right, at all, after really trying, you might consider whether it’s worth forcing yourself into something that doesn’t fit you. You might, instead, make your husband guess as part of the femdom role. Or use cards or dice meant for sex games to communicate nonverbally.

It also might help to reframe open and direct discussion of sex from “dirty talk”—I mean, the shame is right there in the name—to something like explicit verbal eroticism. Good luck.

Dear How to Do It,

I (cis/het male) having a hard time connecting with my girlfriend sexually. We have been dating for almost two years and we have a great, loving relationship. I’m attracted to her and get an erection when we start to hook up.

She nearly always climaxes. But for a variety of
reasons, I more and more frequently have a hard time reaching orgasm with her. For example: I have a smaller penis and she had a larger vagina. She also prefers angles that don’t favor my arousal. Also, she doesn’t enjoy performing oral sex, which is usually something that reliably gets me off. (I know that this sometimes happens for some guys who masturbate frequently or watch porn a lot, but that’s not me; I only do that once every week or two.) This is starting to get into my head; our relationship is really strong in every other respect, but the problems in bed are starting to make me feel like I’m less attracted to her or something. I’ve tried talking about this with her, but it hasn’t helped very much. How do I discuss this with her or address our situation? Help!

—Missing Pieces

Dear Missing Pieces,

So, you’ve told me about the problems with the sex you’re having, but given me no information about how you’ve tried discussing these problems with your girlfriend when your question is regarding your communication. I’m seeing a communication error between the two of you, and a communication misfire between you and me. How’s your communication in other areas of your life? If it’s generally poor, I suggest you see a therapist to address bolstering those skills. If you’re only having difficulty with communication in and around sexual relationships, try to figure out what’s going on there.

Are you ashamed? Start tackling those internalized messages. Are you lacking vocabulary? Read. Browse relationship books, or read the archives of this column and other similar columns (maybe a little Zachary Zane).

Whatever works best for you. Is there some other issue causing this hiccup? Find it and start figuring out how to change things. You’ve got this, and if you want to write back in with more information about what’s happened when you two have tried talking, you’re welcome with open arms.
 
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men with weird vibes that I am not attracted to
That's a roundabout way to say chubby chaser, isn't it?

A lot of guys don't want a fat, let alone obese, woman. Being sensitive is already an issue in and of itself, but it might improve if she lost weight, which she won't do.

Aside from that, stop having sex with strangers - it's not going to help your self-worth.
 
I guess it is easier to blame everyone else than to lose some damn weight.

Ya know I don't get why people who have something about them that's really unattractive to most people, being fat, transgender, etc, are against being in relationships with people who fetishize that thing. Like yeah they're only with them because of that, but they refuse to change that thing about themselves so what's the big deal?
 
I am an obese woman in my early-30s
Under different circumstances, an obese woman could mean a lot of different things, given some limitations with the BMI index, especially with muscular men. But that she is not trying to sugar coat means she is probably really fat. Only the really disgustingly fat slobs use the word fatphobic, so that is important context clue as well.
The few guys I’ve met up with off apps have been very average dates, even more mediocre sex, and we pretty much ghosted each other after.
Very below average woman winds up with average dates. Such is how very broken online dating is. Guys were probably above average but not quite Jimmy Garapolo tier studs that don't need to go on dating apps and certainly would not settle for some fatty.
I find it hard to open up and enjoy myself fully during sex with a stranger—the one time someone asked me what I liked, I felt myself completely shut down and mumble a nonsense response.
Yeah, see, sex with strangers really not such a good idea. It works for a short time for the exceptionaly good looking. Then they get older, and if they have not settled down and married, they regret it.

As others pointed out, lose the weight would be a good suggestion, epsecially as the older you get the harder it is to do. But the fact she concedes she is obese, it would not surprise me if she were sixty to one hundred pounds overweight. May be too late.
 
You know, being fat is okay but when they're uglyfat you just want to get as far away as possible. You know the type, massive fathead, diabetes legs, pulled back ponytail, etc.
 
Biggie laments that guys don't find her attractive, but completely leaves out the kinds of guys she's been with/goes after. Like, is she open to being with big guys or guys who aren't conventionally handsome, or is she a total hypocrite who believes she deserves only hot guys who make $100k+ per year?
 
I really hate these articles about people, not just women but it usually is, that are self-described narcissists complaining that other people are shitty because they have standards. I like this one because the one said 'get a vibe' and the other one's therapist said you're both faggots. The first one can still admittedly get laid if she wants, but you know she's gonna demand that 8+ chad.

You know, being fat is okay but when they're uglyfat you just want to get as far away as possible. You know the type, massive fathead, diabetes legs, pulled back ponytail, etc.
You usually see those types end up with Mexicans or black guys. The worst to me is when the tits are smaller than the gunt.
 
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I'm guessing the fat woman is so fat that she'd look like a basset hound if she lost the weight. Still, the weight loss would at least make her feel better.

Don’t overexert yourself to fit into society’s expectations. Foster your friendships—including new ones with women who are also fat and whom you can commiserate with about this from a place of lived experience

...over several pieces of cheesecake. Yeah, this is the kind of advice that will result in fatty putting on an extra 100 pounds.

We went to see a sex therapist about this and he was an older man who opened the session by positing that the issues I described may be because one or both of us are actually gay/lesbian (we are both bisexual).

I think the therapist might be onto something. The lack of desire to do something that automatically arouses the husband is highly suspicious, and is a sign that the wife should probably switch teams, although a lesbian who doesn't like oral sex isn't going to be very popular with the carpet-munching crowd.
 
When I hear of fat people trying to pursue non-fat people, I get reminded of that episdoe of South Park where Cartman desperately tries to hook up Token with the black girl because he thought that black people should only date other black people.
 
I'm going to probably regret saying this but I can kinda see how it would be insulting that there are some people out there who would rather date trannies or Chris fucking Chan than you if you were a femcel/incel. The problem is there are a lot of women, and men like this, who themselves are too selective. She could probably find somebody who would love her and allow her to continue gorging herself on butter and fried foods, that wasn't fetishizing her, if she was willing to meet people halfway or compensate in some other way. Plenty of the old timers up home were thin hardworking men who married em some fatties who could cook and they never wanted for anything in terms of coming home to a hot meal and clean home. Not my speed but there are probably still people out there like that, but you're not gonna find them being the type of person who literally expects someone else to carry your fat ass in the relationship.
 
We went to see a sex therapist about this and he was an older man who opened the session by positing that the issues I described may be because one or both of us are actually gay/lesbian (we are both bisexual). We didn’t return.

Lol, the guy makes a correct call immediately, and they got so butthurt they'd rather keep the problem going than admit he's right.
 
I don't put a bunch of time, effort, and energy into being fit so I can date an obese woman. If a woman has a nice personality, cute face, and big tits then she can get away with being a little bit chubby, but rolls of fat and a complete lack of control is a major turn off. What the fuck do you even envision doing with a "good man" anyway? You probably can't even survive a gentle hike.

It's not "fatphobic" to not want to date someone who stuffs their face with goyslop while I'm fighting hunger on my cut like it's a god damn dragon that needs slaying. It's not "shallow" to not want to marry someone who will need me to be their caretaker as their body falls apart in their 40s. Just like how men aren't owed sex, you're not owed a relationship. Go date someone your own size, piggy, be fat and happy together.
 
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