US Influx of Migrants Exposes Democrats’ Division on Immigration - Democratic voters far from the border say they want leaders to do more to address the growing number of migrants in their cities, but they don’t agree on what.

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Influx of Migrants Exposes Democrats’ Division on Immigration
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Lisa Lerer and Trip Gabriel
2023-09-22 20:39:18GMT

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Migrants arriving in New York by buses from Texas in May. The influx of new arrivals, some bused north by Republican governors, has exposed divisions in the Democratic Party.Credit...Juan Arredondo for The New York Times

In recent years, Alisa Pata, a lifelong Democrat living in Manhattan, has spent far more time worrying about Donald J. Trump than immigration. But now, as she reads about the influx of migrants coming to her city, that’s starting to change.

“We have too many people coming in,” said Ms. Pata, 85, as her older sister unpacked a travel Scrabble board for a game in the park. “Biden could do something more about putting our borders up a little stronger. I mean, we’re not here to take in the whole world. We can only do so much.”

Sitting a few feet away, Daniela Garduño, 24, who also supported President Biden, had the opposite view. She cringed when she heard Eric Adams, the city’s Democratic mayor, say that the asylum seekers would “destroy New York City.” It reminded Ms. Garduño of the conservative politicians in her native Texas.

She left the state for New York expecting more liberal politics, said Ms. Garduño, a paralegal. “And now it seems like there’s just so many echoes.”

In some of the country’s most liberal cities, Democrats are wrestling with the complications of a dysfunctional immigration system and a set of problems that for many years has largely remained thousands of miles away. The new wave of migrants, some bused north by Republican governors, is exposing fissures in a party that was for the most part unified against the hard-line immigration policies of the Trump administration.

Most strikingly, much of the debate over incoming migrants is happening not in swing states or battleground suburban counties, but in some of the most diverse — and deeply blue — corners of the country.

In interviews with more than two dozen voters in the Democratic strongholds of New York, Boston and Chicago, most embraced the migrants, whom they saw as fleeing difficult and desperate circumstances. They largely praised the Biden administration’s decision to expand temporary protected status to 472,000 Venezuelans, allowing them to work legally in the United States for 18 months. Many said they believed that the new arrivals should be allowed to try to support themselves and saw plenty of available jobs to be filled.

“The restaurant industry has been lacking cooks, bus people and dishwashers for years now — we were calling cooks unicorns because nobody could find them,” said David Bonomi, 47, a Democrat who owns a restaurant in Chicago’s Little Italy. “If there’s people who are here looking for a better life, looking for opportunity and willing to do those jobs, I’m absolutely for it.”

But many expressed frustration with the Democratic leaders managing the new arrivals, and some worried that the Biden administration’s new order was only encouraging more people to come.

“There are all kinds of empty dwellings in Chicago. Put them in there, and let them work,” said Charles Kelly, a retiree who was riding his bike in Chicago’s Ravenswood neighborhood on Thursday. “People are lying on the sidewalks, and I’m like, why? People are begging for jobs and guess what, here’s your work force right here.”

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Recently arrived migrants in a makeshift shelter at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago in August.Credit...Armando L. Sanchez/Chicago Tribune, via Getty Images

But at the same time, Mr. Kelly wondered if the border could be temporarily closed to give cities time to accommodate the migrants already here, a policy once proposed by Mr. Trump and one that would face major legal hurdles.

“It’s overwhelming the system,” he said. “They should be monitored closely. I don’t know exactly how to do that but the federal and state governments should be doing more.”

The reality that Democrats like Mr. Kelly are grappling with is complex. After a drop this spring, unlawful crossings at the Southern border are rising sharply, and migrants cannot work legally while they wait to be processed through the clogged courts. While allowing some to work may ease the strain, critics note that it could also encourage more to come.

For decades, attempts to pass systemic fixes through Congress have crumbled. A broad immigration overhaul is now considered a nonstarter given Republicans’ internal divisions.

In New York, more than 113,300 migrants have arrived since the spring of 2022. Local officials have struggled to respond, and the city has estimated that it would spend about $5 billion this fiscal year to house and feed migrants. Last fall, Mr. Adams declared a state of emergency.

Chicago has taken in 13,500 migrants and spent at least $250 million, while Washington has taken in 10,500 migrants since the first bus arrived outside the home of Vice President Kamala Harris. In Massachusetts, the state’s shelter population rose 80 percent in the last year after the arrival of thousands of migrant families. Many of the asylum seekers who have arrived in recent months are Venezuelans fleeing the economic collapse of their home country.

LaQuana Chambers, 41, saw a racial bias in the way some Democratic politicians were talking about the new arrivals and denounced what she viewed as efforts to pit the migrants against citizens.

“When it was Ukrainian immigrants coming in, there wasn’t this much of an uproar,” said Ms. Chambers, who works for the city’s education department and lives in Brooklyn. “If you’re white and European, people will easily digest that, they’re OK with that. But if you’re brown — no.”

The situation presents a potential political danger for Mr. Biden and his party. Nationally, Republicans have gained an edge with voters on immigration over the past year. Roughly four in ten Americans said they broadly agreed with Republicans on the issue in a June survey by Pew Research Center, about 10 points more than agreed with Democrats. That was a notable shift from a year earlier, when roughly equal shares of Americans said they agreed with each party.

Polling on views about the recent wave of migrants has been largely limited to New York. A survey released this week by Siena College found that 51 percent of registered Democrats in New York considered the recent migrants to be a “major problem.” Only 14 percent, however, ranked it as the single most important issue for the governor and state legislature, far fewer than those who selected economic factors like cost of living and the availability of affordable housing.

Advisers to Mr. Biden’s campaign argue that the president’s voters haven’t changed their position on immigration; they just want to see steps taken to help handle the influx of migrants. The advisers said they believed those concerns would be assuaged by steps like the decision to expand temporary protected status this week.

Still, some Democratic politicians have responded by adopting talking points that sound almost like they were lifted from their Republican rivals, a sign that they fear a political backlash. They have activated the national guard, petitioned the White House for expedited work authorizations and pleaded with Mr. Biden to take a more aggressive approach.

Mr. Adams, who has said the president has “failed” the city by not doing more, praised Mr. Biden’s move this week to expand temporary protected status but also pressed the White House to extend protections to migrants from other nations.

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Mayor Eric Adams staged a rally in August to call on federal officials to expedite work authorization for asylum seekers.Credit...Jeenah Moon for The New York Times

Most Democratic voters said the issue was not prompting them to reconsider their support for Mr. Biden, whom they still vastly prefer over Mr. Trump or any of his Republican primary opponents. But the political implications might be most visible among swing voters in crucial suburban battlegrounds, where voters in recent elections have punished Democratic candidates for what they perceive as the declining quality of life in cities.

Robert Speicher, 60, a retired social worker on Long Island who worked with undocumented immigrant families, said his heart broke for the migrants.

“They just want to work and stay in the shadow. This myth that they’re here to suck our system dry — they don’t want that,” said Mr. Speicher, who voted for Mr. Trump in 2016 and skipped the election in 2020, after being disappointed by the former president.

But he added that he believed Mr. Biden’s policies had failed to secure the border, escalating what he saw as a crisis.

“Why are these 500,000 people getting to cut the line?” he said.

In Watertown, Mass., a city outside of Boston, Josh Fiedler, 48, said that recent reports about cities struggling to deal with the new population of migrants made him think more about the border crisis that has animated Republicans for years.

But it did not lead him to support Republican solutions. He said he would like to see an increase in foreign aid to Latin American countries to improve conditions.

“I didn’t realize it was a problem until it happened,” said Mr. Fiedler, a quality assurance analyst and a Democrat. “The border states have complained for a long time. Something needs to be done.”
 
Not in my backyard liberals being exposed for their hypocrisy is so sweet. They knew this was happening and they saw it as a good thing until they actually had to see it first hand.
 
LaQuana Chambers, 41, saw a racial bias in the way some Democratic politicians were talking about the new arrivals and denounced what she viewed as efforts to pit the migrants against citizens.

“When it was Ukrainian immigrants coming in, there wasn’t this much of an uproar,” said Ms. Chambers, who works for the city’s education department and lives in Brooklyn. “If you’re white and European, people will easily digest that, they’re OK with that. But if you’re brown — no.”
That’s the difference between 100,000 semi skilled refugees and 4,000,000 toilet scrubbers.

I hope they buy out whole ghettos to accommodate all these Venezuelans. Maybe blacks will understand population replacement then.
 
It seems the DNC has overshot a little bit with their long haul ballot stuffing scheme whereby they infuse the country with as many brown skinned Democrat larvae as they can in as short of a period of time as they can. The Great Replacement is very much near irreversible so why they are overshooting so much is perplexing. The idea is to boil the frog slowly, not put the heat on max.
As bad as things are, Democrats like Kathy Hochul still won't see the error of their ways, which is why, were it possible, the social contract whereby those opposed to the left agree to a peaceful transition of power should be considered null and void.
 
"I was ok with it when it was other people's cities being over run with immigrants, but now that it is mine I am not so sure!"

Fucking NIMBY's
 
“We have too many people coming in,” said Ms. Pata, 85, as her older sister unpacked a travel Scrabble board for a game in the park. “Biden could do something more about putting our borders up a little stronger. I mean, we’re not here to take in the whole world. We can only do so much.”
YOU FUCKING DID THIS YOU DUMB SHIT
 
I know the answer you want is to keep them in red states and you know the answer you want is to keep them in red states so stop your fucking lying.
 
I can't think of anything sweeter than people being forced to live with the consequences of their actions. Every single person who believes borders are a far right extremist Nazi invention to oppress and genocide beautiful melanated folx should be forced to house no less than one ( 1 ) charcoal black congo nigger Somalian/Eritrean, Pakistani or mudskin cartel member per member of the household who believes the above, for a minimum duration of 25 years.
 
In recent years, Alisa Pata, a lifelong Democrat living in Manhattan, has spent far more time worrying about Donald J. Trump than immigration. But now, as she reads about the influx of migrants coming to her city, that’s starting to change.

Geez. Almost sounds like all of that mental energy fighting the Bad Orange Man was a huge boondoggle that was meant to distract the average Democrat from the real problems sidling up to their doors.

“We have too many people coming in,” said Ms. Pata, 85, as her older sister unpacked a travel Scrabble board for a game in the park. “Biden could do something more about putting our borders up a little stronger. I mean, we’re not here to take in the whole world. We can only do so much.”

"I mean, I VOTED for the Face Eating Leopards Party, but I didn't think the Leopards would come after MY face..."

Sitting a few feet away, Daniela Garduño, 24, who also supported President Biden, had the opposite view. She cringed when she heard Eric Adams, the city’s Democratic mayor, say that the asylum seekers would “destroy New York City.” It reminded Ms. Garduño of the conservative politicians in her native Texas.

Gilded Elite living in Rarefied Huffbox angry that people living in areas with different selection pressures vote differently. "How dare those evil MAGA Ghouls not want to give everything they own to angry invaders pouring over their borders! What bigots!"

“The restaurant industry has been lacking cooks, bus people and dishwashers for years now — we were calling cooks unicorns because nobody could find them,” said David Bonomi, 47, a Democrat who owns a restaurant in Chicago’s Little Italy. “If there’s people who are here looking for a better life, looking for opportunity and willing to do those jobs, I’m absolutely for it.”

"I'm sure all of the people pouring into our country want to do the shit jobs for shit wages that all of our existing illegal immigrants already don't want to do!"

“There are all kinds of empty dwellings in Chicago. Put them in there, and let them work,” said Charles Kelly, a retiree who was riding his bike in Chicago’s Ravenswood neighborhood on Thursday. “People are lying on the sidewalks, and I’m like, why? People are begging for jobs and guess what, here’s your work force right here.”

Those empty dwellings are empty because if their owners were to open them up, not only would rent go down, but the value of the buildings would also nosedive as they get fucked up by Third World Peasants who haven't even seen an indoor stove before. The financial sector has also been artificially propping up the buildings' value for Real Estate Schemes, so good luck getting them to go along with your "house the migrants" scheme...

But at the same time, Mr. Kelly wondered if the border could be temporarily closed to give cities time to accommodate the migrants already here, a policy once proposed by Mr. Trump and one that would face major legal hurdles.

Realistically speaking, it would probably take a century or more to assimilate the migrants that we've received since 1965, but since too many politicians have incorporated limitless immigration into their voting, Replace Whitey, and cheap labor schemes, there's little chance they can reverse it now.

For decades, attempts to pass systemic fixes through Congress have crumbled. A broad immigration overhaul is now considered a nonstarter given Republicans’ internal divisions.

It's all the Republican's fault that America has become a cheap whore opening up her legs to hordes of brown foreigners! Yeah! Those dirty, damn Republicans!

LaQuana Chambers, 41, saw a racial bias in the way some Democratic politicians were talking about the new arrivals and denounced what she viewed as efforts to pit the migrants against citizens. “When it was Ukrainian immigrants coming in, there wasn’t this much of an uproar,” said Ms. Chambers, who works for the city’s education department and lives in Brooklyn. “If you’re white and European, people will easily digest that, they’re OK with that. But if you’re brown — no.”

White Limousine Liberals have a level of racism that the Japanese would envy. All of their knob-slobbing for brown people is just a ruse to conceal that.

Still, some Democratic politicians have responded by adopting talking points that sound almost like they were lifted from their Republican rivals, a sign that they fear a political backlash. They have activated the national guard, petitioned the White House for expedited work authorizations and pleaded with Mr. Biden to take a more aggressive approach.

If Leftists were aware that environmental pressures cause people to act against invaders a certain way, they wouldn't be Leftists.

“They just want to work and stay in the shadow. This myth that they’re here to suck our system dry — they don’t want that,” said Mr. Speicher, who voted for Mr. Trump in 2016 and skipped the election in 2020, after being disappointed by the former president.

Yes they do. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's human instinct. What's wrong are the leaders of a country allowing foreigners to do it to their people because they want to virtue signal and import scab workers and voters. The Romans had the right ideas when dealing with traitors. A few Blood Eagle rituals would certainly set most of Congress straight.

“Why are these 500,000 people getting to cut the line?” he said.

I dare you to ask a legal immigrant who did things the right way that question.

But it did not lead him to support Republican solutions. He said he would like to see an increase in foreign aid to Latin American countries to improve conditions.

"More of other people's money! That will fix things!" The future epitaph on the Democrat Party's tombstone.
 
It seems like the Biden administration is trying to get as many shitskins into the country as fast as they possibly can lately.... maybe they're not expecting another term? (bring the rainbows)
 
“It’s overwhelming the system,”
And that's a good thing, actually. Let it come crashing down. Let decades of idiotic democrat policies kill the beast. I want to see lefties crying about their shit being stolen, being raped and being murdered at rates highter than I currently do. Your suffering is my joy bugmen.
 
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expand temporary protected status to 472,000 Venezuelans, allowing them to work legally in the United States for 18 months
Got contacts over there telling me we're getting the literal shit from the country. Basically the whole place collapsed around 2014 and every venezuelan who had some skills has already left the country long ago. They don't even have people who know how to operate the oil wells anymore, in a country that only exists because of oil.
we were calling cooks unicorns because nobody could find them,”
How about paying a living wage you fat greaseball fuck?
“When it was Ukrainian immigrants coming in, there wasn’t this much of an uproar,” said Ms. Chambers, who works for the city’s education department and lives in Brooklyn. “If you’re white and European, people will easily digest that, they’re OK with that. But if you’re brown — no.”
Observe the dishonesty: they don't say how many ukranians.

I certainly didn't see half a million blonde slavs crossing the border...
“Why are these 500,000 people getting to cut the line?” he said.
Indeed, I remember this latino guy who was here on a visa, dude really wanted to stay but only legally. Good worker, qualified, liked this country more than all these lefty shits toppling status. When his visa was over he packed everything and left. I remember some soy telling him to just fake-marry for a greencard, you know what he said?

"That would be cheating".

See, we don't have an actual legal immigration system, guys like that one who can actually contribute and want to follow the rules are stuck waiting but because we don't prosecute illegals and give them amnesty, what do we get? the useless who have nothing to lose and will leech because they can't do anything, and the criminals who need to leave their country anyway.

That guy I'm talking about has a brother who got tired of waiting and moved to NZ which has such a system. As such other countries are siphoning all the actually productive migrants while we get the refuse that wouldn't make it past the first test to go to other developed countries.
“I didn’t realize it was a problem until it happened,” said Mr. Fiedler, a quality assurance analyst and a Democrat. “The border states have complained for a long time. Something needs to be done.”
Yeah nah get fucked, you asked for this.
 
I voted for the Infinite Niggers Everywhere Party, but I never thought the infinite niggers would show up at my house!
 
Every single person who believes borders are a far right extremist Nazi invention to oppress and genocide beautiful melanated folx should be forced to house no less than one ( 1 ) charcoal black congo nigger Somalian/Eritrean, Pakistani or mudskin cartel member per member of the household who believes the above, for a minimum duration of 25 years.
What did the shitskins do to deserve that kind of punishment?
 
Busing illegals to blue shitholes is one of the best uses of taxpayer funds imaginable. Fuck everyone in these "sanctuary cities."
 
Remember when securing your border -- something everyone basically agreed with -- became "putting children in cages" under Trump? Remember when under the first Democrat primary debate every candidate basically agreed that there should be free immigration? Remember when all these cities declared themselves "Sanctuary cities", knowing they were far from the border? Turns out most people still think the border should mean something when their TDS starts slapping them in their faces.
 
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