🦊 Furry Fredrik Knudsen / "Down the Rabbit Hole" Guy / Loren The Owl - Youtube documentarian turned gay furry vtuber

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This seems a bit of a nothingburger, idk if I missed something while reading but he just seems like a standard behind the scenes furfag. I guess this has potential for YMS-tier spurging, but is he really cow tier?
Maybe I've just become desensitized after reading the Goonclown thread recently.
Fred definitely ranks lower as a lolcow cuz he’s not really a drama whore. He’s gay, autistic, and cringe, but that’s how you’d describe a lot of video makers and KFers. I just think the unexpected change to vtubing has people excited to see how far he’ll diverge from being the popular lolcow exposé guy.
 
Thanks for making me check because I found this gem:
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Little did he know that he would tell his own stories again...

... on the Kiwifarms.
What a giant pussy. If he had simply persevered and finished this novel, no matter how amateur and shitty it turned out to be, he definitely wouldn't be suffering this retarded neurosis now. It's like how rape victims troon out or similar, except in this instance, he had total control over whether or not he finished what he started. If he really cared about it, he would fish out the manuscript and the notes, review them, and finally complete the project that haunts him to this day.
 
Unironic question, but what is the point of streamers or anime avatar users in joining these vtuber companies/collectives? I thought the whole point of streaming or having your own youtube channel is that you don't have a boss and answer to no one but the platform and keep all the money unless you're too lazy/inept to do your own thumbnails and editing. It seems like such a massive L to join the vtuber companies, have them constantly scrape a huge percentage off every video or tip collection and be part of a stable of clone-like retards also draining your view pool.
Late and gay, but the problem with being an indie/solo vtuber is the market is saturated to fuck and you don't have a manager to get you interesting deals or offers.
Being part of a brand like Hololive, Vshojo, Nijisanji etc is you have a built in audience thanks to the work of your peers/senpais(older talents who have been in the game longer) - Take a look at Hololive English generation 3, Advent. They debuted july 30th (ish) and they already have between 414k subs and 566k between five talents (technically, but FuwaMoco is a twin act). They also already have monetisation, which is unusual for youtube to activate for new channels.
Being part of a brand also gets you easy access to merch with your persona tied to it, you have management sorting commissions of art and designs for things like mousepads, plushies, tea pots/mugs and so much more.
An indie has to do ALL of the groundwork for themselves. You have to market yourself, you have to interact with SoMe diligently, you have to find artists that can do art for you if you aren't an artist yourself (although loads of vtubers are)
Yes, a corporation is going to take a chunk of your earnings and different corps have different ways of doing the money thing. I know Hololive members get a flat rate payment every month, plus an unknown percentage of superchats and merch sales. Vshojo does it differently and I think they take a large chunk of merch sales but the talent keeps the superchats, I'm not 100% certain however.

Plus, indies don't have the certainty to break even - vtubing is an expensive business to get started in. The models cost money, the rigging of the models cost money, you need a powerhouse PC that can handle streaming the latest and greatest games with OBS running. If you want to do incredibly niche content like ASMR, the ASMR microphone costs a fuck tonne. One of the more popular ASMR mics is the KU100, which comes in at a whopping 8k dollarydoos. Plus indies don't have access to the 3D studios that corpos do.
Indies will never have access to the full power of a corp like Cover, who have been expanding their brand on a global scale for a while, even building stupidly expensive 3D studios that are going to be used for different kinds of streams, concerts included.

An indie will never be able to rent a stadium to have a concert like a "real" idol corp.
Yes, indies go through less yellow tape and can stream whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want and they can talk like they want to. Some vtubers prefer being indie because of that, some prefer being smaller channels and not having the Japanese idol industrial complex weighing on their shoulders. Some vtubers simply aren't idols, but that's what makes the corporate vtubers more exciting to many of those who watch vtubers. It's difficult to explain because you have to have some kind of brainrot to enjoy the idol culture, but it's like watching your favourite bands holding a concert together.

Not that I expect any of this from Astraline or Fred. I don't expect the idol culture in any way, I only expect the low effort pandering to fujoshis and otherwise the "talents" will act like any other average twitch or youtube streamer with little to no personality driving the stream.
I expect Astraline to fizzle out and get consumed by Vshojo or NijisanjiEN.
 
People really want KF to be 4chan 2.0 unfortunately. If you do this kind of shit, you shouldn't post here, simple as. Especially regurgitating niche memes is super gay. If you're going to alog at least be discreet about it rather than implicating the rest of us. If people scare Fred off the Internet before he starts making cringe Vtuber shit I'm gonna be so pissed.
A couple of years ago, there was a culture shift.

I don't exactly remember why or when, but a bunch of Chan refugees made their way over to here, probably because both sites were considered super edgy in that people could say as much hate speech as they wanted without being banned or screeched at. Maybe it happened around 2018, when 4chan was facing financial difficulties. 4chan basically had to split into two sites (one being the regular NSFW 4chan and the other being the SFW 4channel), with the SFW nature of 4channel being advertiser-friendly, which allowed monetization and let both sites remain afloat. 4chan also had some jannies step up and moderate more. I'm guessing a bunch of people didn't like the change and came over here as a result.

Other politically incorrect sites/forums like /r/CringeAnarchy were deplatformed (and Reddit alternatives for hosting CringeAnarchy, like Voat or Ruqqus weren't gathering a lot of traction), so some of their users came over here.

I think the third factor would be KF's security breach that also happened around the same time. Quite a bit of the old guard left when information such as their emails and IP addresses were publicly leaked. So basically they weren't there to bitch slap newcomers and tell them not to A-Log/don't interact with cows. The reminders Josh puts at the top/bottom of the forum pages aren't quite as effective as being relentlessly made fun of by other forum-members for being a sped/cow-tipping.
 
His name sounds close to "Tzeentch", which already makes him a faggot.

You can't worship the Lord of Change without changing your sexual preferences.
lets be honest, that's not even really Tzeentch's deal. Change? Yes, changing into unrecognizable forms of whatever you once were. Sex? That's Slaanesh, dumb dumb. Every troon and sex addled coombrain would be corrupted by Slaanesh's chaos.

Anyways Warhammer faggotry aside, it's a bummer to see that Fredrik has become, with lack of a better word, a faggot. Disrespectful towards fans on Twatter, giant content drought for years, and the thing he's hyping up is an EVE documentary of all things?

I like the history of online games do not get me wrong, but to spend this much time "working" on it makes me think that it's going to come out extremely subpar.

It's like the whole thing of falling. The longer something falls, if it has considerable weight, the harder gravity will slam it into the ground. If people have to wait for something, and wait for it, and wait for it, their expectations will balloon out into an uncontrollable shitstorm that could never exist realistically.

Also lmao: "Yes my furry vtuber avatar is an allknowing twink owl anime boy who is also CALIGULA"

Nigger what?
 
I don't care about this dude and I always found his videos too long and boring to hold my attention but you "hey I used to like this guy/his work, but now can't" people are annoying.

You're allowed to like lolcows and even if you don't like them? You don't have to instantly dislike everything they've ever done because they got a thread lol.
 
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