Opinion Democrats Need to Have an Honest Talk About White People - How to get their votes without actually giving them anything

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We need to talk about white people. Heading into the very high-stakes 2024 election cycle, progressives and Democrats need to engage in a sober, empirically grounded analysis of what we really know—and don’t know—about how best to expand support among white voters.

For the past 10 years, I’ve been banging the drum about how the Democratic Party overprioritizes wooing white swing voters (a shrinking population) and does not spend nearly enough on investing in, inspiring, and mobilizing voters of color—who, after all, make up nearly half of the party’s voters. But I’ve always also said that Dems need at least a certain percentage of white voters to win.

With Democrats and their allies preparing to spend more than $1 billion next year in the 2024 presidential election cycle, it’s critical for us all to pause and make sure that the planning, spending, and strategy heading into next year’s election day is informed by the latest and best data, including data on the most effective ways to attract more white voters. It’s also imperative to assess the limits of that support, that is, to get crystal clear on which—and how many—white voters are actually woo-able.

Much of the conventional wisdom about voting patterns along racial lines in this country is faulty. Many people are surprised to learn that Lyndon Johnson was the last Democratic presidential nominee to win the white vote (in 1964). After he signed the Voting Rights Act in 1965, no Democratic nominee has won the majority white vote again. Ever. (Jimmy Carter came the closest, winning 48 percent in 1976.)

Many misremember Bill Clinton’s 1992 election as a high-water mark of white support for Democrats, but Barack Obama actually eclipsed Clinton’s numbers in 2008 when he secured 43 percent of white votes compared to Clinton’s 39 percent. In Clinton’s 1996 re-election bid against a weak Bob Dole, he did manage to get the backing of 44 percent of whites.

That was the high point of white support for Democrats since the advent of modern-day exit polling in 1976; the nadir was Walter Mondale’s 34 percent in 1984, and the average has been 40.3 percent. 41 percent of whites supported Joe Biden in 2020.

These figures should prompt Democrats to ask themselves two fundamental questions. First, how do we move the needle closer to the 43-44 percent that Clinton and Obama enjoyed? Second, when does political spending that targets whites reach the point of diminishing returns—that is, at what point do we reach the ceiling on how many white votes we can win?

This inquiry needs to go beyond the usual handwringing about Democrats’ problems with white working-class voters. Trump bested Hillary Clinton among white non-working-class voters as well. How should we understand this, especially in light of the ongoing outsized attention showered on white working-class voters in Midwestern diners by candidates and the media? Maybe we should be paying more attention to trying to boost the turnout of college-educated white voters instead of continuing to chase those least likely to support us.

I’ve spent the better part of the past decade trying to sound the alarm about the need for Democrats to have a data-driven conversation about how to maximize the turnout of voters of color in a nation that is increasingly diverse and increasingly racially polarized. In a 2016 analysis, I showed that nearly 80 percent of Democratic dollars in that election cycle were spent on targeting white voters. In my 2016 book, Brown Is the New White, I broke down the math of the Obama coalition, which I dubbed the “New American Majority.” This coalition comprises of progressive people of color (23 percent of all eligible voters) and progressive whites (28 percent of all eligible voters). These two groups make up 51 percent of all eligible voters. My book offered lessons on how Dems could maximize support from each racial group, including whites, in such a way that the elements commingle and create a winning formula. And yet that year the Democratic Party’s white support dropped to a 34-year low as Trump turned white racial resentment and rage into a powerful political force.

While wooing white voters has always been top of mind for Democratic strategists, operatives, and leaders, there has been shockingly little transparent and constructive conversation about the evidence underlying the party’s strategies and spending tactics. For example, Democratic operative David Shor has become infamous over the past couple of years for his advocacy of “popularism” as a way to boost white support. In The New York Times, Ezra Klein distilled the essence of popularism down to: “Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff.” (Spoiler alert: Much of that “unpopular stuff” includes talking about the problem of racism in this country.)

Shor’s views have reverberated throughout the Democratic ecosystem. His tweets and views have been retweeted by Obama. Klein’s 6,000-word piece in the Times was a paean to Shor’s way of thinking. And yet, despite the reverence for his ideas and his lofty status as a “data scientist,” Shor has never published anything clearly articulating his views, let alone outlining the evidence supporting it. (One thing is clear, though: as Elie Mystal has pointed out, Shor is “convinced and vocal that Democrats should dump their racial justice message if they want to maintain power.”)

Over the past 20 years, I have been in multiple meetings with top Democratic Party leaders and operatives who were making million-dollar asks of major donors. Rarely in those meetings did I witness insiders share any meaningful data to justify these asks. Shockingly, too many billionaire donors simply fork over large political contributions without asking tough questions or demanding to see hard evidence or plans. These are the same donors who conduct extensive due diligence before making private-sector investments.

Small-dollar donors also fall prey to impulse buying. Time and again, we have seen tens of millions of dollars flow to Democratic candidates running against prominent and destructive Republican leaders such as Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, and Lindsey Graham. These candidates’ respective opponents—Amy McGrath, Sara Gideon, and Jamie Harrison—received a combined $300 million in 2020, but all three Democrats lost badly because the races were never really that winnable in the first place based on historical voting patterns. This would have been obvious based on a clear-eyed assessment of the data.

The stakes next year are too high for our standards to be so low. That’s why I have joined with the Working Families Party and Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ) to start a candid conversation among progressives about what the data really shows about how best to attract and retain the maximum amount of white support possible. We are calling this effort the White Stripe Project (broadening our nation’s multiracial rainbow). We will be inviting all sectors of the progressive movement—including Democratic Party and Super PAC leaders—to share the data they rely on and encourage a transparent and constructive conversation about 2024 strategy and spending.

This conversation is long overdue and vital as we gear up for an election taking place at a time when the country is more racially polarized than at any point since Martin Luther King’s assassination and the subsequent urban rebellions in 1968. Notably, Richard Nixon won the ’68 election by less than 1 percent of the vote. The margin of difference in 2024 also stands to be razor-thin (even if one of the candidates is in jail). This means that those spending the most money need to engage in the important work of explaining, sharing, and defending their plans and the evidence underlying them.

 
I really don't get this. White votes count the same amount as black votes, we don't still have the 3/5ths rule anymore. The more you pander to and coddle People Of Crime, the more disenfranchised whites become and go over to the other side that doesn't blame them for all the world
problems.
 
For the past 10 years, I’ve been banging the drum about how the Democratic Party overprioritizes wooing white swing voters (a shrinking population) and does not spend nearly enough on investing in, inspiring, and mobilizing voters of color—who, after all, make up nearly half of the party’s voters. But I’ve always also said that Dems need at least a certain percentage of white voters to win.
But white replacement is just a conspiracy theory, guys.
 
“Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff.”
(Spoiler alert: Much of that “unpopular stuff” includes talking about the problem of racism in this country.)
I have joined with the Working Families Party and Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ)
journofag has data showing what's unpopular with working class white people, decides to ignore it and push things unpopular with white voters anyway. entire article is talking about looking at the data and he completely ignores his own advice to push agendas. fucking hilarious

TJD
 
In The New York Times, Ezra Klein distilled the essence of popularism down to: “Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff.” (Spoiler alert: Much of that “unpopular stuff” includes talking about the problem of racism in this country.)
You mean racism like this?
[Steve Phillips] is the author of the New York Times bestseller Brown Is the New White.
 
Ezra Klein distilled the essence of popularism down to: “Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff.” (Spoiler alert: Much of that “unpopular stuff” includes talking about the problem of racism in this country.)
"Trick voters to save Democracy(tm)!" - (((Ezra Klein))), writing for the (((New York Times)))

Maybe if your policies are unpopular with a majority of your constituents, you shouldn't enact them. Maybe the Democrats should remember they're supposed to be representatives of the people, and not just Jewish tricksters of the people up until the point when they're elected so they can shove cultural Marxism down the throats of people now that there's no way short of a recall election to stop them...
 
The media and academia have really convinced blacks that they are on the verge of taking over. It is fun to watch.

Sure if the tptb keep letting hispanics flood the border the white majority will become a minority majority but I am pretty sure hispanics as a whole do not love blacks too much.
 
There's been a very loud and open discussion about "whites" since at least 2008 when Obama got onto the scene.

For the past 10 years, I’ve been banging the drum about how the Democratic Party overprioritizes wooing white swing voters (a shrinking population) and does not spend nearly enough on investing in, inspiring, and mobilizing voters of color—who, after all, make up nearly half of the party’s voters. But I’ve always also said that Dems need at least a certain percentage of white voters to win.
Second sentence in and you're already lying about who the Dems pander to, while also admitting the white population is shrinking. We're done having this dicussion.
 
The media and academia have really convinced blacks that they are on the verge of taking over. It is fun to watch.

Sure if the tptb keep letting hispanics flood the border the white majority will become a minority majority but I am pretty sure hispanics as a whole do not love blacks too much.
the media keeps playing word tricks to separate white people and hispanics but the majority of hispanics are also white. journalists and politicians are trying to steer hispanics into considering themselves pee oh cee to create a "diversity" platform but that's going to fail eventually. even now, they have the term BIPOC to exclude hispanics and asians when talking about diversity groups
 
Many people are surprised to learn that Lyndon Johnson was the last Democratic presidential nominee to win the white vote (in 1964). After he signed the Voting Rights Act in 1965, no Democratic nominee has won the majority white vote again. Ever.
Should tell you all you need to know about democrats. Been fucking over the majority 60 fucking years at this point and the majority increasingly isn't buying the bullshit anymore.

Maybe we should be paying more attention to trying to boost the turnout of college-educated white voters instead of continuing to chase those least likely to support us.
Yes, focus on the one group least likely to vote and more likely to radicalize beyond electability. Y'all had to cheat last time. I'm sure the youth is a winning strategy.

What is his fucking conclusion? What electoral strategy would he recommend?
Fund minority and college white ballot harvesting operations over trying to convince working whites to vote for the party of child rape.
 
I know they’re not listening and wouldn’t even if they could, but instead of having a “talk about White people”, what they ought to do is have a talk “WITH White people”, and by “White people” I do NOT mean Outer Party members who just so happen to be light-skinded.
 
I really don't get this. White votes count the same amount as black votes, we don't still have the 3/5ths rule anymore. The more you pander to and coddle People Of Crime, the more disenfranchised whites become and go over to the other side that doesn't blame them for all the world
problems.
But white replacement is just a conspiracy theory, guys.
What is his fucking conclusion? What electoral strategy would he recommend?

Too many words with too little information.

Based on (admittedly ~15 mins. of) research I have concluded that this guy is nobody of consequence. He's the standard grumpy old black dude, this article is pure cope and I assume this is being published for culture war/demoralization purposes as the spite and condescension in his article is palpable. He also has a podcast where (I assume) he does more of the same. He's married to a rich lady, lives in San Francisco and copes professionally he's black Bernie Sanders.
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These people wonder why lots of whites (mostly males) stopped being democrat or left wing. I voted for Obama....twice (like a fuckin moron), I too was young, "hip", and liberal, till shit like this became the norm. Then when I realized how much right wingers were being silenced on youtube and the like, I started listening to what they had to say (muh free speech and all that)....and what did I behold, but some valid criticisms of the direction the west in general is going.....and race relations/immigration/trans shit issues. Then I discovered George Lincoln Rockwell, Then Murdoch Murdoch (it was 2018 don't judge me), Then I decided to read Mien Kampf, for shits and giggles...now i'm here years later with the sign in name "BadGoy1488".

I wanted to be friends, but these niggers/faggots/niggerfaggots shoved me into the direction I'm at today. I still do my best to keep things cordial with anyone I come across, But I know what team I root for now.
 
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