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This K-pop band has no Korean members. Hear why they think they will break through

By Jessie Yeung, Yoonjung Seo, Jake Kwon and Paula Hancocks, CNN
Updated: 7:51 PM EDT, Fri August 25, 2023

Cheers ring out as the four women take to the stage and launch into a synchronized dance routine in front of giant speakers blasting music.

Singing in Korean to a crowd in Seoul and adorned in matching chains and studded clothing, they appear every bit the typical K-pop girl group. There’s just one difference: None of them are Korean.

This is Blackswan, a K-pop group whose members hail from around the world. There is Gabi from Brazil; NVee from the United States; Sriya from India; and Senegal-born Fatou, who now lives in Belgium.

Together, they are hoping to break through into a highly competitive, multibillion-dollar industry – but first they must convince skeptics that they are the real deal.

Blackswan is not the first K-pop act to include foreign members. Groups like GOT7 and UNIQ had a mix of Korean and Chinese members, for instance. But in the past such groups have tended to fizzle out, or worse: EXP Edition, a boy band with mostly White members and no Koreans at all, stirred controversy when they emerged several years ago, with some critics accusing them of cultural appropriation.

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The members of Blackswan hail from four different countries.

Blackswan too have their doubters. At Waterbomb, the water-based music festival Blackswan performed at in June, one attendee told CNN they questioned the group’s authenticity – though others saw the non-Korean line-up as a positive sign of Korea’s growing cultural influence on the world stage.

For Fatou, the members’ nationalities and their lack of Korean heritage matters little. They still have the K-factor.

“We speak Korean. K-pop is Korean pop. So as long as the language is there, it is still K-pop,” she told CNN during an interview with the group.

Gabi agreed, chiming in: “Everything that a K-pop group has, we have.”

Trained the Korean way​

The four members may not be Korean, but their journey to Blackswan followed a well-worn, uniquely Korean path that involved auditioning to become trainees in a hyper-competitive program.

Just being accepted as trainees by Korean label DR Music was an achievement. From a young age they had all harbored a love of music and performance, with ambitions of joining the entertainment industry. Each had fallen love with K-pop after being introduced to it by friends.

But it was an arduous path. They had to take intensive lessons in Korean – a difficult language for foreigners to master – on top of endless rehearsals in singing, dancing, rapping and more, Fatou said.

“(Instructors) expect you to do everything even though it hurts, you’re crying, you feel like your body is going to break. If they tell you to stay in that position, you have to stay in that position,” Fatou said.

A culture of competitiveness and social hierarchy – reflecting norms of Korean daily life and education – made things even harder, especially as they also had to cope with being away from family and adjusting to life in a foreign country.

But such hardships are part of what makes a K-pop star, according to Yoon Deung-ryong, the CEO of DR Management, who said this sort of training was needed to make aspiring musicians “presentable.”

Many foreign trainees ended up returning to their home countries because “they couldn’t adjust to the Korean system,” he said. Those from Europe or South America were “raised to be independent” and thus didn’t have a “tendency to follow instructions,” said Yoon.

The four trainees chosen to be Blackswan members were “the ones who overcame all that,” he added.

K-pop stars are made, not born​

As tough as the training was for Blackswan, many K-pop stars have been through even harsher regimens, starting younger and training for longer.

Some trainees begin at just eight years old, living in dorms away from home, and following strict diets and rigorous daily schedules.

The members of global sensation Blackpink – which headlined Coachella this year, the first Asian act ever to do so – trained for six years before their debut as a group, while superstar G-Dragon reportedly trained for 11 years at two major agencies before debuting.

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Blackpink perform at Coachella on April 22 in Indio, California.

By contrast, some of the newer Blackswan members have been training for a year or less. Fatou, the longest-standing member, joined the company only four years ago.

This process is vastly different from how musicians are developed in other countries, and is a defining feature of the K-pop genre, said Lee Gyu-tag, who teaches pop music and media studies at George Mason University Korea.

Trainees aren’t taught only how to perform – they’re taught how to handle the media, how to interact with fans, and even how to conduct their private lives, Lee said.

It’s good practice for the immense pressures placed on real K-pop stars, or “idols,” after they debut – they are often forbidden from dating or disclosing details of their personal lives, lest they anger or alienate their fans, though this is slowly beginning to change.

“What (labels) are doing is not only making records, but making a human (reach their) potential to become an actual musician,” Lee added. “It is an essential characteristic of the K-pop music industry.”

Changing face of K-pop​

The diversity of the group reflects the changing face of K-pop, which has exploded in popularity across the world over the past decade, with groups like BTS and Blackpink becoming international stars and household names.

And the popularity of K-pop is just part of a larger cultural wave, with K-dramas, Korean beauty products and Korean fashion finding similar success overseas.

This surge in interest toward all things Korean has prompted many foreign fans to travel to South Korea and even learn the language. For some, the natural next step has been to try and become a K-pop star themselves.

“When I was 15, my friend showed me a K-pop music video … and since then, I kind of got stuck on the K-pop genre,” Fatou said. She experimented with different types of music, but felt certain that K-pop was “what I want to do.”

Meanwhile, experts point out the genre has always been loosely defined.

K-pop doesn’t have specific shared musical features like a type of beat or lyrical style, said Lee. Instead, many K-pop artists release vastly different types of music.

And the genre isn’t even necessarily tied to the Korean language. For instance, BTS, the world’s biggest K-pop group, has increasingly released songs in English like the smash hits “Dynamite” and “Butter.”

Indeed, Lee pointed out, the genre wasn’t even conceived by the South Korean music industry. Rather, it was overseas fans in Asian hubs like Hong Kong and Taiwan who fell in love with “a certain type of Korean popular music … and named it K-pop,” he said.

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The K-pop boy band BTS perform at the 2021 American Music Awards in Los Angeles.

Blackswan theory​

Blackswan are now hoping to capitalize on this global audience – and the diversity of their own members – to offer something fresh and break through the saturated market.

Their varied backgrounds are reflected in the music they produce. “Sometimes in the songs, we mix (Korean) with other languages like English and … a little bit of Spanish,” said Gabi, the Brazilian member.

The music video for their recent single “Karma” was filmed in Sriya’s hometown in the Indian state Odisha, with the members dressed in outfits and jewelry inspired by traditional Indian clothing, and the video featuring shots of temples and dusty motorcycle traffic.

“I’m really grateful and honored,” said Sriya, adding that her family was proud she could represent India on a global platform.

Yoon, the CEO, says they plan to film future music videos in the other members’ home regions of West Africa, Brazil and the US.

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Blackswan performing at the Odisha Hockey World Cup opening ceremony in India in January.

Some skeptics, of course, remain.

“As there are no Koreans in the group, I’ve always looked at (Blackswan) with doubts about them being K-pop although they technically are,” said 25-year-old Lee Wool, who attended the Waterbomb festival.

She added that she was a “little worried” that K-pop groups without Korean members would “lead to a skills drain.”

Yoon added that peers in the music industry had “called me crazy,” and advised him to bring in at least one Korean member into the group as it prepared to debut.

But the Blackswan members say most of the criticisms come from international observers, while Korean fans and artists have been largely supportive. And, they say, the whole point of their group is to push boundaries and change perceptions of what K-pop can be.

“There are millions of fans of K-pop, all from different backgrounds, all different colors,” said Fatou. “It’s gonna push them more to be like … She’s Black. She’s Indian. She’s from America. She’s Brazilian. But she still achieved it – so we can do it too.”
 
ANyone who listens to, talks about or defends k-pop should be put on a watch list.

Yellow fever is the weirdest shit and I don't know why so much of America has it.
 
Blackswan too have their doubters. At Waterbomb, the water-based music festival Blackswan performed at in June, one attendee told CNN they questioned the group’s authenticity
If they commit suicide at age 25 I'll rate them as authentic.

As an aside, why do so many K-pop stars off themselves at age 25 or so? Planned obsolescence taken to its logical conclusion? Reflective of Korean society generally?
 
Why do people wanna listen to niggers and muds sining in Korean?

People with taste listen to 80s J-pop from Italian artists.
 
Just dawned on me the name "Black Swan" has some interesting connotations here, even in the world of shitty generic lipsynced corporatized obviously autotuned pop music.

Black swan theory

I'm guessing these gals, or more likely one of their handlers, is giving a sly hat tip to Nassim Nicholas Taleb and his theory with that name and the group's obviously being non-Korean. Well played, I guess. Funny, since most of what Taleb was on about was recognizing rare and difficult to predict catastrophes.

Or maybe they just thought it sounded good. 🤷‍♂️
 
So it’s just a rebooted Spice girls type of band? I’m surprised they aren’t being shunned for cultural appropriation.

Well, only one of them is white. That might help a bit. If anything happens, the girl who would be mistaken for a jar of mayo can just get thrown under the bus as racist.

It does look like more Spice Girls to me too. But they are totally Kpop because that's what is popular right now.

I can't name a single Kpop song or a group other than BTS, who I have zero knowledge of them other than their pics on magazines. And I'm damn proud. Damn proud. :)
 
Real talk for a moment, because I honestly don't know; who listens to female K-Pop? I know lonely girls and women lust after the dudes, but who seriously follows female K-Pop? Is that following enough of a sensation to hold attention, or is it mostly K-dudes who don't want dark skins and foreigners?
What few western boys that still have some vestiges of testosterone. Have you seen what passes for English language female pop stars these days? Lizzo for example. K-pop is at least pretty girls acting and singing in reasonably feminine ways (no fat chicks!). So you get a lot of American European and Latino k-pop fans just from that. The songs are insipid, but it doesnt matter as nobody can understand the language anyway.

Blackswan is a novelty act. Noteworthy as the only k-pop group with darkies! Whereas a lot of the top k-pop groups are actually heavily weighted towards non Koreans. Just some variant of at least partial Asian extraction. Black Pink technicalky has 1 Korean, 1 Thai and 2 Australians (of Korean extraction). Twice is 5 Koreans 3 Japanese and 1 from Taiwan. Twices company has started actively trying to put at least one American/Canadian/Australian/Native English Speaker in each new group to help with international interactions and appeal.

But Korean k-pop fandoms are the most vile dens of racism and hate on the planet. I can't imagine what the Blackswan girls go through. They are stunt casting by a fairly bottom tier company. They're literally an animal act to the local Korean fandoms.
 
Only pedophiles say that word. Get hanged, nonce.
For those not in the know, there's literally codewords for it to evade detection, similar to the infamous CSAM symbols.

For example, if you ever see someone terminally online say that some young girl is "cute and funny," note the first letter of the first word and the last four of the last. There is actually a reasonable shot they're trying to go under the radar.
 
Blackswan are now hoping to capitalize on this global audience – and the diversity of their own members – to offer something fresh and break through the saturated market.

Their varied backgrounds are reflected in the music they produce. “Sometimes in the songs, we mix (Korean) with other languages like English and … a little bit of Spanish,” said Gabi, the Brazilian member.

Theres more than just Blackswan.

4 years ago the main Korean music channel ran a one-shot all foreign group to see how the South Korean public might react to such a group. It wasn't received well.



Then several years ago, a Korean-Japanese Kpop artist decided to produce his own all Japanese girl K-Pop group using everything he learnt in the Kpop industry. But also got the girls to learn Korean and English for more widespread appeal.



Then last year, many of the Major US labels approached the biggest South Korean labels for a joint US project. The most prominent being A2K.



This doesn't mean the regular K-Pop groups are sitting still. They've all been learning english and started releasing english tracks.

 
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