Since the Fishtank thread on /tv/ is being spammed with it the question arose.
The obvious answer seems like Yes because it's nasty but at the same time it doesn't seem as obvious to me when I sit & actually consider it. The whole point of outlawing CP is to protect real children from abuse. If an AI generates a pornographic image based off 3D models or medical textbooks then a real child wasn't & isn't being harmed. It's effectively a more realistic-looking lolicon drawing.
The source code is out there. You can just run it on your own PC.
As for real children not being harmed. All we're doing is enabling pedophiles and their pedophilic behavior. That IS harming children.
There's this idea about hitting a punching bag that it's a way to blow off steam. In other words, to become less aggressive by taking a harmless target. Some studies do suggest there is in fact an opposite effect; that by frequently engaging in aggressive action (even harmlessly aiming it towards an inanimate object) increases the overall aggression in that person.
I think the root question about this subject always comes down to whether porn works as a release valve or behavioral reinforcement.
I'm inclined to believe the latter, but we don't really know for sure. But I've seen more evidence pointing towards the latter.
For this reason I think it should be illegal, even if it is hard to police and might be argued to be innocuous at first glance.
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Also think about the process in the back. How are people going to train this AI to get better? What will they need to feed the AI to get it to do good?
The source code is out there. You can just run it on your own PC.
As for real children not being harmed. All we're doing is enabling pedophiles and their pedophilic behavior. That IS harming children.
The source code is out there. You can just run it on your own PC.
As for real children not being harmed. All we're doing is enabling pedophiles and their pedophilic behavior. That IS harming children.
i see. i dont know much about AI anyway, not 100% sure how it works in any case, but everything i see about it is bad...this is just another thing i guess
Lol fuck no. You're not allowed to wave a fake gun around in public and make people think it's real. Why would you be allowed to post something that looks like real CP?
The "real children" argument is only so effective, really. It's still immoral to produce such material (let alone pleasure oneself to it), even if it doesn't involve real children.
Uhhh.... no. This argument has been made by lolicon and shotacon consumers. The main counter-argument to that perspective is that it eventually leads to the harm of children since the material enables nonce behaivour and it let's pedophiles live out their fantasies that may eventually become reality. It can be argued that those are just "fantasies" and we can't exactly arrest or prosecute people on crimes that they haven't commited yet. That may be another reason as to why we prosecute and arrest people for having CP on their hardrives even if they did not produce it themselves. But I personally preffer to not take any chances as far as the safety of children is concerned, if you consume any sort of material be it AI generated or real you should go to the wood-chipper.
I also find it disgusting and I wouldn't like to live in a reality were we let nonces masturbate to AI generated CP. That just sounds like a dystopian hellhole that I wouldn't want for it to become reality. The only solution as stated on a post above is Total Pedo Death.
Just bring back shaming and shaming culture
if every loli shota degen lover supporter or artist was promptly bullied into suicide or hiding we'd have less issues
