Culture How did “f-ggot” get to mean “male homosexual”?

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Dear Straight Dope: I recently reread the Lord of the Rings trilogy and I’ve always been curious about Tolkien’s casual use of the term faggot. I guess that in Britain the term does not carry a negative connotation and is used as slang for cigarettes and whatnot, but it still gets me thinking. How can a word go from meaning “a bundle of sticks” to “homosexual male”? I’ve looked elsewhere on the Internet, but I haven’t been able to find any unbiased resources or even biased ones that state their sources. They all say that it goes back to heretics being forced to carry the faggots for their own execution at the stake. Forgive me for being skeptical, but this sounds a heckuva lot like the story about the origin of the term “rule of thumb,” albeit backward. Josh G.

samclem replies:

Well, Josh, you’re right to think that the British historically haven’t found "faggot" offensive–with the exception of a vile-tasting meatball currently marketed in the UK as Mr. Brain’s Faggots. One of the advertising lines says, “It’s no wonder 100 million faggots are eaten in the UK every year!” As Dave Barry says, “I’m NOT making this up."

It took Americans to apply the term to male homosexuals. First some history.

The term faggot or fagot, meaning bundle of sticks, shows up around 1300 in English. It almost certainly came from Old French, possibly going back to Greek phakelos. Since those bundles of sticks were mainly used for fires, it’s not surprising that the term came to mean burning sticks. Then there was that nasty business in medieval times where heretics were burned at the stake. Some later cites indicate heretics who repented and were spared a fiery death had to wear a picture of a faggot on their sleeve to show what might have been their fate. But no print evidence exists that homosexuals were referred to as faggots before the twentieth century, with the origin definitely in the U.S., not Britain.

The British continued to use the words fag and faggot as nouns, verbs and adjectives right through the early 20th century, never applying it to homosexuals at any time. To fag or to be a fag was a common term in British schools from the late 1700s and referred to a lower classman who performed chores for upperclassmen. While this term was also in vogue at Harvard in the first half of the 19th century, it died out by the mid-1800s in the U.S., leaving it in use only in England. Nineteenth century Britons also heard "faggot" used in reference to an ill-tempered woman, i.e., a ball-buster, a battleaxe, a shrew. That meaning of the term continued into the early 20th century, and the usage was gradually applied to children as well as women. The relationship, if any, between faggot-as-bundle-of-sticks and faggot-as-shrewish-woman is unknown.

The first known published use of the word faggot or fag to refer to a male homosexual appeared in 1914 in the U.S. It referred to a homosexual ball where the men were dressed in drag and called them “fagots (sissies).” Ernest Hemingway, in The Sun Also Rises (1926), included the line, "You’re a hell of a good guy, and I’m fonder of you than anybody on earth. I couldn’t tell you that in New York. It’d mean I was a faggot." A 1921 cite says, "Androgynes [are] known as ‘fairies,’ ‘fags,’ or ‘brownies.’"

George Chauncey, in his excellent 1994 work Gay New York: Gender, Urban Culture, and the Making of the Gay Male World, 1890-1940, says that the terms fairy, faggot, and queen were used by homosexuals to refer to men who were ostentatiously effeminate. Homosexuals who were not as showy referred to themselves as "queer" in the first decades of the 20th century. But the general public mainly called homosexuals “fairies.” If you were in London in the 1920s through the 1940s and used the term "fag," the man in the street might have offered you a cigarette, and quite possibly that would have been the case with many Americans at the time.

All of this does little to answer your original question: How did a bundle of sticks come to mean a homosexual male? Most likely it didn’t. Here we’ll have to go to theory. Since I’m writing this, mine will have to do.

We notice with some words a progression of usage that morphs along the lines of "woman/girl" > "woman/girl/child" > "effeminate male" > "homosexual male." The word fairy is a good example. "Faggot" in the sense of an ill-tempered woman is another. I independently came to that conclusion while answering a general question on the SDMB. But, in a post to the American Dialect Society mailing list, Dr. Laurence Horn, professor of linguistics at Yale University, posted the progression that I just used (he did it much more succinctly than I could). Still unexplained is how a Britishism jumped the ocean in a short period of time to acquire a new meaning in the U.S. Perhaps it was an independent formation. Words happen.

As a last thought, a current notion holds that the Yiddish word faygeleh, “little bird," might have been the source, but lacks evidence other than the claim that the word was commonly used in Yiddish prior to WWII to indicate a homosexual. With the digitizing of publications allowing searching never before possible, perhaps some further scholarship will be forthcoming to help solve the mystery.

Resources: Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, edited by J. E. Lighter, New York, 1994-1997.

samclem
 
extremely reaching deep-dive sidelining the obvious slang reasoning, also the article censoring itself reminds me of the fucking old south park episode where they had the fourth wall funny moment of "oh if you don't get bleeped when you say faggot you're gay".
 
They forgot about these, still sold to this day.

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Wow, Straightdope. That message forum was full of nonstop leftist SJWs very early on. "Cecil Adams" had some interesting factoid books for awhile, then by the end was nonstop Bush bashing and politics.
 
Why do any words mean anything? Why do people allow themselves to become so enthralled by them?
Why do people like this not believe in convergent evolution of thoughts and concepts? Why do people like this act like the people who invent slang are the same people reading Ernest Hemingway?

Why do niggers get paid to do this stupid navel-gazing bullshit? The world abounds with mysteries.
 
Wow, Straightdope. That message forum was full of nonstop leftist SJWs very early on. "Cecil Adams" had some interesting factoid books for awhile, then by the end was nonstop Bush bashing and politics.
Poring through the archives, you can see a perfectly smooth gradient of SD getting slowly more and more woke over the years, and then the wokeness just abruptly shifts into high gear around 2015. Just like pretty much every editorial out there.
 
I have this massive set of leather bound encyclopedias and Dictionaries from the 50s in my apartment. My future sperg spawn may grow up in a horrifying dystopia but at least they will know what faggot and female mean.

Fuck the Ministry of Truth.
 
Let me make an educated guess:

Gay men having sex involves several dicks.
A dick can be referred to as a stick.
Gay sex involves a bunch of sticks, a bundle, if you will.
A bundle of sticks is a faggot.
Gay people are faggots.

I might be wrong but that's how slang words come into existence.
 
Honestly, my guess is the usage they mentioned for fagging...I wouldn't be surprised if those underclassmen were often forced to provide "other" services to the upperclassmen and tutors.

Historically the submissive partner in a homosexual act was the homosexual one, not necessarily the other (despite how ludicrous that sounds). so it's not hard to see how an underclassmen being taken advantage of by an older one sexually could lead to the term being associated with homosexuality.
 
extremely reaching deep-dive sidelining the obvious slang reasoning, also the article censoring itself reminds me of the fucking old south park episode where they had the fourth wall funny moment of "oh if you don't get bleeped when you say faggot you're gay".
Yeah and seems to ignore that any reference to femininity can be turned into an insult for men (except the buck broken), theres no pipeline, its already an insult. Flipside is true too, that whole 'ban bossy' campaign, only women wanted it banned because only women really used it against other women because their perspective of social hierarchy is flat. Men's perspective of their social hierarchy isn't, a leader is expected to lead; you won't typically hear someone expected to lead be called 'bossy', more likely they'll be called 'cunt'.
 
Faggots are bundles of sticks; sticks are wood; wood is a euphemism for erect dicks; homosexuals love having lots of erect dicks; thus, they're faggots.
 
I imagine in 100 years there will be an article on, "Why are transgender males called troons" and the writer will say, "It's a combination of transexual and cartoon because they are bright, colorful, and fun!"

It's based of the movie "Tron" but they added an extra O because troons add a O where there wasn't one before.
 
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