🤝 Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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Oh she's definitely going to munch herself to an early grave. What a complete mystery those magnesium levels are... whatever could be causing that?
 
I don't remember her being posted here, but yeah, I'm comfortable calling her a munchie. Is she wearing a panda costume to talk about her PANDAS?

PANDAS is itself a controversial entity, much touted by "functional medicine specialists", and some experts remain highly skeptical.
My brother dated a teen girl with PANDAS for a short time when he was a teen. She was diagnosed with PANDAS and anxiety but was a total BPD nutcase. I felt she wanted my mom's affection in a motherly way more than my brother's. I think she felt unprotected by her real mum when her ex step brother sexually abused her as a child.

Isn't PANDAS supposed to be autoimmune though? So you should be able to measure CRP and easily rule out who has excess inflammation or not, right? Interesting that proponents claim it's caused by childhood strep infection. That is an accepted factor in the development of guttate psoriasis, a common pediatric form of psoriasis.
 
My brother dated a teen girl with PANDAS for a short time when he was a teen. She was diagnosed with PANDAS and anxiety but was a total BPD nutcase. I felt she wanted my mom's affection in a motherly way more than my brother's. I think she felt unprotected by her real mum when her ex step brother sexually abused her as a child.

Isn't PANDAS supposed to be autoimmune though? So you should be able to measure CRP and easily rule out who has excess inflammation or not, right? Interesting that proponents claim it's caused by childhood strep infection. That is an accepted factor in the development of guttate psoriasis, a common pediatric form of psoriasis.
Pandas is an autoimmune disease. I have some experience working with a person with it. Diet and medication tends to be an important part, and if you aren't on top of it you can mess yourself up pretty bad.
 
Oh she's definitely going to munch herself to an early grave. What a complete mystery those magnesium levels are... whatever could be causing that?
She's definitely found the same munch hack as Evie T. You can flush everything out of yourself and REALLY fuck with your osmotic balance with all those lovely lines and toobs all along the digestive tract.
Where is there left to go now but death? Pretty sure this is the most concurrent toobs I've seen on a munch without ever getting one yoinked against their will.
Dani must be absolutely seething but also desperate to learn the secrets of this High Priestess. This friendship will be one to watch.
Will Dani be gunning for a caecostomy next?
 
If she's on a PPI (proton pump inhibitor, such as pantoprazole, esomeprazole) they are well known to wash out your magnesium. They're very commonly prescribed for chronic nausea too.
 
If she's on a PPI (proton pump inhibitor, such as pantoprazole, esomeprazole) they are well known to wash out your magnesium. They're very commonly prescribed for chronic nausea too
She never actually mentions a PPI, she REALLY likes phenergan, but it could be part of the picture. She's certainly worked out a way to fuck herself up the moment the hospital aren't looking despite maximum magnesium in her feeds and supplements.
I reckon the most likely thing is she just ain't running them and purging like hell at the same time. That caecostomy seems to be the key. Evie Toombes does the exact same magnesium trick and that's great fun for munchers cos you can induce apparent heart issues with magnesium.
 
oh yes, very good point. and if she wants an arrhythmia (with all the fun attention that gets) it's a good way to do it.
her double Hickmans are puzzling though, I've never seen that before.
I think how she managed to munch two entire hickmans is
1 lumen dedicated to tpn
2 other lumens for 2 other meds shes on that can't mix
And then manages to throw such fuckery into the mix with this magnesium trick that she ends up with presumably 2 more meds/supplements that also can't mix with others and ends up with a lumen spare just in case.
Presuming absolutely no meds at all can go into her digestive system at this point.
 
It's super easy to tank your magnesium and potassium levels. Particularly if you already have an eating disorder. There's loads of medications that can do it. I'm not going to post it here for the sake of not-encouraging-munching, but it's not super secret knowledge and I highly doubt the doctors are mystified.
 
Looks like Tanzchelsea is having a bad reaction to Rose getting a trach and all the attention she's getting for pretending to be dying from stiff person syndrome.
Chelsea is seen here ramping up her antics while her sister is in the ICU with a very real health problem that could actually kill her.
She's also wrapped up in trying to prove to the trolls that she's totally not faking all of this and it's not just all psychosomatic.

 
Looks like Tanzchelsea is having a bad reaction to Rose getting a trach and all the attention she's getting for pretending to be dying from stiff person syndrome.
Chelsea is seen here ramping up her antics while her sister is in the ICU with a very real health problem that could actually kill her.
She's also wrapped up in trying to prove to the trolls that she's totally not faking all of this and it's not just all psychosomatic.

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what does she mean when she says she's only allowed to yell help once a day?
 
what does she mean when she says she's only allowed to yell help once a day?
Chelsea has been yeeted from the hospital and kicked off all her meds. Her elderly mother is looking after her on top of her other caring responsibilities and has probably told Chelsea she's put hard limits on her fuckery.
She's being hilariously dramatic at one point claiming her mother was spraying canned air in her face as she slowly suffocated because the hospital took away her oxygen cylinders.

She's also being a real cunt to her supportive followers
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It's super easy to tank your magnesium and potassium levels. Particularly if you already have an eating disorder. There's loads of medications that can do it. I'm not going to post it here for the sake of not-encouraging-munching, but it's not super secret knowledge and I highly doubt the doctors are mystified.
It's all fun and games until torsades de pointes comes to visit.

The fact that she's on the munchie speed run world record and knows how to fuck her electrolytes up makes me think she worked in medicine in some capacity. Unfortunately it's weirdly common for healthcare workers to snap and munch out.
 
It's all fun and games until torsades de pointes comes to visit.

The fact that she's on the munchie speed run world record and knows how to fuck her electrolytes up makes me think she worked in medicine in some capacity. Unfortunately it's weirdly common for healthcare workers to snap and munch out.
The ana chans have been passing the trade secrets around their forums for years. Now they've branched out into quite highly technical munching too.
 
The ana chans have been passing the trade secrets around their forums for years. Now they've branched out into quite highly technical munching too.
I can kind of see it since EDs are often about a pathological need for control over your own body. Once you get your G-tube and purging becomes effortless what's the next step? Seeing how close you can bring yourself to the brink of death I guess.
 
I can kind of see it since EDs are often about a pathological need for control over your own body. Once you get your G-tube and purging becomes effortless what's the next step? Seeing how close you can bring yourself to the brink of death I guess.
An endless cycle of attention on social media and in hospital. Dopamine, dopamine go away, do it again and get some more. Rinse repeat until you do a Jaquie and reddit rewrites your history and says you weren't a manipulative piece of shit who alienated everybody in your life and we all felt really really sorry for her always actually rip skinny legend wiv da angles now.
 
How the hell did that person got a medically unnecessary trach...that is beyond insane.

Can't beleive its a year since I looked at Chelsea's caring bridge...wow a lot has happened. Not sure how much her caring bridge is watched so hers the highlights. Looks like she may have upped her Munchie skills.
  • 10/22/21
    • Back in 10/21 when she first came home she got off the fact that her mother was having to care for her like a baby. She suddenly couldn't even eat the stuff she ate in the hospital anymore.
  • 11/15/21
    • She talked about the GJ Tube as a holiday present almost.
    • She is allergic to everything now.
      • Supposedly frozen food will make go all stiff now so mommy must by her fresh food every day.
        • But apple pie is fine.
  • 12/17/21
    • Now she has super attacks which involves stiff, mast cell AND seizures for her mom to deal with.
    • She now is allergic to anything that is a disinfectant.
  • 1/9/22
    • ER wasting time again.
      • She saw on news that the ER was insanely packed and suddenly decided she had to go.
      • Mast Cell Attack So Bad...
        • Now her meds set it off. Needs new pain meds now.
    • The ambulance person was mean to her because she flat out told her your face isn't really even swollen.
    • Her mom was not given a comfy chair because a patient needed it.
    • She pretended to have a heart attack and took over every nurse there needing to respond because they thought she was going to code.
    • She now states she has a spinal cord injury due to the hospital because they didnt put her collar back on her when she had a fake heart attack.
      • It only effects her hands so she can't help people with things.
  • 2/8/22
    • Reiterates her pain meds are not strong enough and she wants stronger ones.
    • It's insane how she has these doctors under her thumb with her theatrics.
    • She has no decided that her neck vertebrae are crumbling.
  • 2/20/22
    • She got her J-Tube surgery scheduled here.
    • She met with her neurosurgeon who sounds like hes caught on to her shit.
    • She now has decided she can't even sit up anymore.
    • She is trying to get a converted van paid for.
  • 3/15/22 & 3/16/22 & 3/18/22
    • Surgery time! Posts are by "Lacey" who seems to make the same typos and grammar as Chelsea.
    • Of course the numbing stuff "didn't work" and she needed more pain meds.
    • She fakes her attacks so bad she gets to take up a ICU step down bed.
    • She hates the J Tube they put it not where she wanted it so its bothering her ribs from the inside.
  • 3/21/22
    • "Lacey" is still posting.
    • Now removing the Picc Line took out "tissue" and has hurt her arm.
    • Also, she refuses to move at all and makes the nurses turn her and clean her.
  • 3/24/22
    • "Lacey" is still posting.
    • Chelsea says the J-Tube is hurting her against diaphgram.
    • She had another fake code attack she made them respond to.
  • 3/28/22
    • She is already home.
    • She's learnt she can make a mess if she opens her tube when a feed is not running.
  • 4/6/22
    • She went to hospital over night again.
    • She suddenly had a lot of J Tube issues.
      • Nothing was wrong they stated it was food coming up.
      • Wound care said there might be an infection of the skin.
    • In ER they did not have their usual dealer...i mean doctor.
      • She kept attempting to get pain meds and was refused until she faked an attack.
      • Doctor called her on her shit and said you need to take more fluids.
      • She got seen by her cardiologist who pretty much told her to stop wasting peoples time.
        • "The next morning happened to be that my cardiologist was on rounds. I was very excited to hear this. He was not happy to see me. He told me I was aging. And to go home. "
  • 5/2/22
    • Can't miss fashion week. All the energy in the world for that. And she can now sit and pose fine. And be active.
      • " shot Monday through Thursday. Two outfits a day and then three on Thursday. I took about six hours a day. Between make up changing clothing getting in the chair unhooking my tube in line. Finding the spot. Getting the light. Getting the picture. Switching the wig. It was long."
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    • Doesn't want a pain pump because she won't have control of it.
  • 5/18/22
    • Now suppposedly shes allergic to most of her medication.
      • She says this is because there was a thunderstorm.
    • She says things are so bad maybe she should get pallative care.
  • 5/30/22
    • She had an appointment with a neurosurgen on east coast but shes decided it be too much work to go.
  • 6/25/22
    • DNR talk, but won't say her decision.
  • 7/9/22
    • Hospital time again. "Lacey" is typing.
    • She now has E. Coli and Enterococcus.
    • She's already had her pretend code time.
  • 7/12/22
    • Now she has sepsis.
    • She is having stiff attacks every 2 hours.
    • She had another pretended attention heart attack.
    • She has now self diagnosed "gravity-dependent atelectasis."
  • 7/19/22
    • Chelsea slipped and fell on her silk pajamas during a stiff attack.
      • Her stiff attack caused her to fall nice and slow so she got no head injury.
      • They had to hoyer lift her back into bed.
    • Now she has a 3rd blood infection as well Micrococcus.
  • 7/21/22
    • One of the blood infections that cleared miraculously returned.
      • They have now removed her picc lines because that and J-Tube are only place that could be allowing bacteria in.
  • 7/28/22
    • She swapped docs for some reason.
    • Now shes in crtical care.
  • 8/2/22
    • She got a rounds doc to agree with her stiff person self diagnosis and give her IVIG.
    • She doesn't know if she wants to live anymore.
  • 8/7/22
    • She says the IVIG sucked and made her sick but completely stopped all attacks while it was being infused.
  • 8/17/22
    • This happened:
      • Doctor : “OH NO YOUR SUPER POSITIVE CHECK YOUR MYCHART!”
    • Pallative care denied her told her if your so bad go to hospice.
  • 8/27/22
    • Now 2 months taking over a critical care bed.
    • Shes celebrating having a doctor agree she has SPS.
  • 9/9/22
    • She laments that she can't get the pain meds in hospital at home.
  • 9/22/22
    • She says IVIG works only for a little bit and she got a 2nd round.
    • Now she wants at-home oxygen.
    • Looks like docs are starting to catch on again:
      • "My nights have bit really bad here because people haven’t been listening to either me or the notes left in the computer by the doc. For example the other night I was telling them I’m stuck and I can’t get out of the stiff attack and refused everything and I mixed in extreme pain and the doc comes bed side saying sorry I can’t help u… I waited another four hours for the next round of my meds. It was so painful my muscles were shivering and I felt my back was just going to bend in half. "
    • They were placeboing her and she didn't realize at first. They were giving her non-pain meds and she was responding as if she got her pain meds.
  • 9/23/22
    • One of her tiktok friend munchies came to visist.
  • 10/2/22
    • She got a new toy incoming now a Hickman. Not sure if this is her.
    • She also says she was exposed to Covid.
  • 10/6/22
    • She hates it suture is hit by her collar and she just wants her IVIG.
  • 10/8/22
    • All her joints dislocate during attacks and it hurts.
    • Her pain doctor has ditched her it seems.
  • 10/15/22
    • Still wasting a critical care bed.
    • She has now decided she has swallowing issues.
    • She broke her collar:
      • "I’ve literally broken my cervical collar because of all the pressure and Stiff attack‘s the wire literally came out and it’s poking me in my head so I have to get a replacement in here and once I get out I can get my other one replaced because the one I have is a little bit longer than the usual cervical collar. "
    • One doctor flat out refused to work with her as a patient. She states its because he was horrified by how bad shape she was in.
    • She states shes on a new expeirmental drug.
    • Once again her pain doctor is refusing to answer. He probably has realized shes chasing pain meds.
    • PT refused to work with her once they realized she could be mobile on her own.
  • 10/25/22 Part 1
    • Just one vague post:
      • "Hey everybody I just want to let you know that I have a post coming but I am reaching out to people first before I post some information and I will fill you all in soon I just need to talk to some people first. I feel it’s only fair to do it this way. I have one call to make and then I will fill you in on what’s happening on this tough decision. "
  • 10/25/22 Part 2
    • She is once again complaining about lack of pain meds:
      • "They are trying to send me home on just to medication‘s and no rescue with less pain medication and less medication for my breakthroughs of my mast cell activation syndrome which are triggered also by my stiff attacks. "
    • She states she wants IV pain meds, but not one will give her them.
    • This is all while her sister is in ICU because she had a carotid aortic dissection.
  • 10/29/22
    • Hospital is done with her shit and is stopping all IV meds and kicking her out in a few days.
      • They told her if she needs rescue med she can have a suppository of it.
  • 10/31/22
    • She's complaining they ruined Halloween for her.
    • Looks like they put her on watch to see if shes faking.
    • And shes been flat out kicked out of the hospital:
      • "his guy just comes in and says you’re cut off and you’re leaving on Monday. I have called advocacy who says you really need to talk to your team and I said how is this advocating you’re not advocating for me you’re not helping me at all how can you advocate for me what are you doing those things are ready I’m talking to my team I need you to help me. I called the national line I called the Minnesota health department I called the disability line for vulnerable adults I called the odsmonmen i’m sorry if I butchered that word but supposedly Ashley is here and coming to help pack me up on statute number 144.586. "
    • She's being kicked out because word came from the last hospital she got kicked out of that she was a faker.
      • "More and more new people started coming in the room to judge me and say things about me that were incorrect then they brought up my stay when I was on the other bank and that he has watched me and collected information about me between these two stays and I said first off do not judge me from my stay at west side because they tortured me over there and did not treat me with respect dignity and left me in a room screaming for hours and took my button for help away. They would call a rapid and they would slowly walk in the room and I could hear them say oh it’s just Chelsea’s and would walk in and be like do you want to visualize a beach how about listening to music when I’m in a full attack that they left me in. "
    • She went on a full on rant about how mean the hospital was to her:
      • "This place doesn’t carry medication for me so we had to go out of pocket this place doesn’t carry food for me so my mother hast to bring it in or the wonderful nutritionist who would bring me anything I needed. They didn’t carry sensitive supplies for my dressing changes for my Hickman or pick lines. People couldn’t even follow the simple rules on the door signs of do not turn the lights on so we had to tape them down. One nurse told me sorry can’t change the smell of my hands I’ve been working for three days with hand sanitizer they’re just going to smell like that. Even with a giant caution sign that says do not use hand sanitizer please go wash your hands and then glove. Which she didn’t do all weekend making me burn all weekend. Cleaning staff made two mistakes very large mistakes by putting chemicals all over the floor in my room and that day I literally sat with a mascon making the redness under the mask worse and I felt like I was choking it’s like there are giant signs on my door for a reason. There would be people who knocked on the door and then banged on the door and I could hear the front desk lady being like read the sign look at the door that is very loud for a person who does not like noises or is affected by noises. These are disability accommodations that they are not accommodating. I’m not asking them to re-design a room I put my mask on when they bring out the alcohol pads and every lab person knew when they came in they would tell me put your mask on. They had to move me to a second room because I had to clean the first went out with chemicals I got to the second room and it was huge windows so they first attempted to tape Chuck’s to the window which didn’t really work then we decided to make curtains are sheets and then a nurse that was really smart we did it down on paper clips and said that she’s haven’t moved and I have perfect curtains because the sun kept beating on my face every morning and it was burning me. And every time something would happen where I would ask for something out of the ordinary for an accommodation I had treats or a gift or something simple to give them as a thank you I don’t have to do that I shouldn’t have to do that but I know that they went above and beyond to help me and so giving them something in return hopefully shows that doing these things are helpful to my community. They may not get treats every time but putting up sheets helps people with light sensitivity or literally the sun rays touching their skin.
        I’ve literally had nurses be like I think it’s time for you to find a new place to go for help and if in a couple days this isn’t working I think you should go somewhere else because these people are not helping you. Which was the saddest thing to look at these doctors and tell them that they have taken the hospital and the floor away from me that I felt the safest time. That I have built friendships on with the nurses and felt comfort with and it’s very frustrating. I cried knowing that they have stolen my safe place by serenity when I needed help coming here knowing that I would not be harmed manipulated or Gaslite and that’s all that’s happened while I’ve been here. I know it’s been hard but I’ve maybe only had 2 to 3 good doctors that were in my pocket out of almost 5 months and I had a new doctor every Tuesday but Dr. Bird who literally came back three times saved my life. I cannot thank you enough and I literally kept asking when he’s coming back and I joked that I guess having a baby is more important then coming to the hospital. "
    • She whines that her mother will have to help her sister and watch her kids.
  • 11/4/22
    • Her homecare has now dropped her as well stating they dont take people needing her level of care.
    • She got called on her ferriten shit when it was discovered she wasn't anemic.
    • Her discharge seems to have pretty much said psychological addiction to pain meds.
      • Due to this they cut her allowable pain meds to weekly allotments.
  • 11/12/22
    • Escalation of her shit is probably due to her sister having an ACTUAL medical issue that she needs help with which is removing her mothers 24/7 attention for her.
    • Now she wants to be in hospice.
    • She states no one has the knowledge she does that her seizures gave her extra levels of knowledge.
      • She also states she had over 800 seizures in 2 months.
      • She states her corpus collosum may not work.
    • Her pain management appointment is for Jan 3rd and thats too long a wait she needs more now.
      • "why am stating all these things is that I was released on October 31 discharge paper said and doctors repeated the whole time we will not let you go without having a pain doctor appointment was 3 to 5 days I am on the top of the waiting list urgent called a couple times still waiting but my appointment is January 3. I don’t think I can hold out that long. Also I was supposed to get IV I G on 8 November it is clearly 12th of November. Missing a dose like that is very very very difficult on the body and so I’m going backwards now. My rescue medication isn’t working I am running out of medication were using to rescue me. And I realize that the medication my Doctor Who is not A pain medication doctor and is a specialist in my complex disorders but does not specialize or understand SPS. what she offered me for pain medication during the idea IVIG is the smallest amount of medication that I would never have made it through that and I I would’ve ended up in the emergency room screening probably getting sick and vomiting from pain and my body would be so mangled I would probably break something like in my body. Because I was always allowed inpatient three IV doses and this one is the lowest dose possible not IV it’s actually lower than the lowest dose that I had at the hospital. The pain meds I’m taking a currently harming me because the higher you go the lower the threshold for seizures. I have seizures in my history from medication already I had another hospice nurse in the hospital tell me to do not up that so now I’m alternating between Stiff attack and Seizures it’s not fair and it’s even more painful but at least in a seizure I’m not awake for it."
    • She is having canned air blown in her face because she says she stops breathing now.
    • She says theres a special person coming to help her but that she cant say who they are.
    • Seems the doctors loop is letting her other doctors know shes munchie because her regulars are refusing ot give her her stuff now to.
    • She vaguely states something that probably is suicide bating.
      • Shes been calling hospices to ask about assisted suicide seems to be her vague statement.
    • They refused to prescibe her any of her iv fluids stuff.
  • 11/20/22
    • The smell of Thankgiving cooking she is now allergic too.
      • She wears a full on respriator mask for this one.
    • Yea there defintely was a doctor chat her PCP has now said she wont fill her iv fluids or potassium anymore.
    • She's pissed because doctors won't give her anymore then Tylonel with Codeine.
    • She's now refusing to even sit up again.
    • She is really pissed that her followers are not falling for it anymore.
 
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