Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

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Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 63 2.3%

  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 59 2.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 113 4.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 222 8.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 785 28.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,104 40.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 14 0.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 81 2.9%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 77 2.8%

  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 716 26.0%

  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 218 7.9%

  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 400 14.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 98 3.6%

  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 327 11.9%
  • Total voters
    2,753
The true cause for the downfall of GTA and reknown franchise comes down to gamer Apathy. People outrage and complain for about a week and then move on to the next thing as if it never happened. We have always known that actions have consequences, but how come nobody ever mentions inaction?
 
This is the sort of thing I've been thinking about. A lot of the missions/character arcs in the GTA series were tributes to 70's/80'90's movies or TV shows that you could play in.

Not too bothered if it's a female character who embodied those themes yet with current era that means it's likely going to be smuggling puberty blockers in or women out of the Handmaid's tale.
 
I wouldn't find fault if GTAVIce was indeed a Bonnie and Claude inspired crime romance story. Tony Scott/Tarantino's True Romance showed it can work as a story.

The claim they're going to avoid punching down is ridiculous. It's a satire of America, no one found fault with CJ and Grove Street or Franklin and Lamarr.
 
Cardenio said:
It's a satire of America, no one found fault with CJ and Grove Street or Franklin and Lamarr.
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I want to know what exactly their definition of "punching down" is, tbqh.

I don't feel like GTA has done any sort of racially motivated shit against minority groups since like...GTA III maybe? And that's mostly just because of the really over exaggerated accents. Even Vice City didn't feel as bad, but of course they did have to censor that for Haitians I guess...
 
We all laughed at her, but it appears she won. No longer will GTA appeal to the male fantasy.

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What's really odd about the Bonnie and Clyde thing is that they already did it with Claude and Catalina, between 1992 (SA) and 2001 (3) they were Bonnie and Clydeing their way across the entirety of the US before Catalina betrayed Claude. Yeah it was offscreen but still, how are they going to pull that off without modelling countless towns/cities? B&C didn't stick to one town.
 
Korpon said:
What's really odd about the Bonnie and Clyde thing is that they already did it with Claude and Catalina, between 1992 (SA) and 2001 (3) they were Bonnie and Clydeing their way across the entirety of the US before Catalina betrayed Claude. Yeah it was offscreen but still, how are they going to pull that off without modelling countless towns/cities? B&C didn't stick to one town.
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That explains why they're expanding VI with other worlds. Interesting concept, I'll give them that. But, I'm not liking the live service approach with it. Expansion packs can do it and more.
 
So I heard this shit's woke now? There were signs it was coming but it's amazing to see it happen.
 
albert the programmer said:
*sigh*

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/gta-6-female-protagonist-reaction (Archive)

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Keep telling yourself that, random journalist on the Internet.

Anyway, people are lying their butts off in these tweets:

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The projection is real.
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Okay, who (besides @Dom Cruise) is upset about GTA having a female protagonist?
 
I don’t really care that GTA6 will have a Latina protagonist, but you already know with how the modern day is that they’ll make it super preachy and “look at how diverse our protagonist is!” I’ve also heard that GTA6 will avoid making jokes about minorities, so prepare for the downfall of GTA because now Take Two and Rockstar are cucked.
 
Video games are basically over, aren't they? At least in the west.

No, I do NOT want to play as yet another generic "Strong Female Protagonist" number 9001, for a series like GTA, I want to play as a cool GUY.

I check out completely when it's one of these modern generic "strong female characters" ala Horizon Zero Dawn or whatever, they're fucking boring, those type of characters are just plain fucking BORING.

You can make a female character interesting, I love Haunting Ground, Rule of Rose, Clock Tower, Fatal Frame and Silent Hill 3, all of which use the vulnerability of their female protagonists to great effect to enhance the horror, because when playing a HORROR game you want to feel disempowered and vulnerable.

GTA on the other hand is a POWER FANTASY and specifically one about the world of CRIMINALS and naturally that's going to resonate more when playing as a guy, Saints Row aside where it only worked there because everything was already so cartoonish, GTA has a different tone, at least starting with 4.

My point being shoving generic "strong female characters" into everything regardless of context is some GRADE A BULLSHIT and I'm fucking sick to death of it.

Maybe Rockstar can make it work, time will tell, but I sincerely doubt it, everything Woke touches it turns into watered down and BORING bullshit, enough is fucking enough.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Maybe Rockstar can make it work, time will tell, but I sincerely doubt it, everything Woke touches it turns into watered down and BORING bullshit, enough is fucking enough.
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You *really* need to not buy it. I'm being serious.

So many people will call it shit and still end up buying it. It's why games have gotten as bad as they are.

Not used. Not at a sale price. Do not buy it at all. I say the same thing in the Saints Row thread but if it ends up being ass bullshit as it seems, it's even more important to not buy GTA VI.
 
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One of the things about GTA that stands out to me is that it already had racially diverse characters before Woko Haram came for it. And people are getting mad about a Latina protagonist as if Elizabeta and Catalina weren't characters already?

The Last Stand said:
Oh, I remember when GTA IV poked fun of gun control with replacing Ammu-Nation with underground gun stores.

"Guns don't seem THAT controlled. I've seen plenty and I just got here."

There's an example of IV making fun of liberals. Well written, I may add.
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I still get a kick out of TransFender
 
I don't mind female protag
I just don't want make protags to be Mary Sue
Just make her crazy bitch like Catarina
We don't need protagonists with good personality in murder drug dealing car thief game
 
LustrousMelons said:
grifters like The Quartering already made videos talking about how GTA IS WOKE!!!!!!!! and twitter comments are full of retards mad because woman, don't act like these people don't exist
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Dom Cruise said:
Video games are basically over, aren't they? At least in the west.

No, I do NOT want to play as yet another generic "Strong Female Protagonist" number 9001, for a series like GTA, I want to play as a cool GUY.

I check out completely when it's one of these modern generic "strong female characters" ala Horizon Zero Dawn or whatever, they're fucking boring, those type of characters are just plain fucking BORING.

You can make a female character interesting, I love Haunting Ground, Rule of Rose, Clock Tower, Fatal Frame and Silent Hill 3, all of which use the vulnerability of their female protagonists to great effect to enhance the horror, because when playing a HORROR game you want to feel disempowered and vulnerable.

GTA on the other hand is a POWER FANTASY and specifically one about the world of CRIMINALS and naturally that's going to resonate more when playing as a guy, Saints Row aside where it only worked there because everything was already so cartoonish, GTA has a different tone, at least starting with 4.

My point being shoving generic "strong female characters" into everything regardless of context is some GRADE A BULLSHIT and I'm fucking sick to death of it.

Maybe Rockstar can make it work, time will tell, but I sincerely doubt it, everything Woke touches it turns into watered down and BORING bullshit, enough is fucking enough.
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If I want to have strong female characters I'll just stick with jrpgs going forward at least the Japs can give us westerners plenty of best waifu material.

The peak has passed for Western games the only thing that we can do is just learn to accept playing as some chick in games now. It wasn't all that bad look at Tomb Raider. Guys like playing as chicks since they have full control over them just not in bed. Lol
 
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