The Gunt Whisperer
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- Mar 23, 2022
If I may… allow me to enlighten you on my trans awakening. (Inspired by @Shotgun Badger above.)
Edit: spoilered wall of text.
I was very much a “live and let live” borderline handmaiden. I believe dysphoria exists and must be horrible, though I’ve never experienced it myself.
When I discovered years ago that a former friend had decided to transition, I was taken by surprise. You see, this lecherous, hairy bear of a man was the last person that I would expect to declare his womanhood at the age of 50-ish. I lived and worked closely with the LGBT community and knew trans people (mostly HSTS twinks now that I look back.) But this guy? This was a guy who made his affinity for women known, uncomfortably so. A guy who was so insistent on producing offspring of his own that he saw nothing wrong with suggesting that a teenage girl should be a surrogate when his wife couldn’t conceive. (And he wasn’t talking about IVF or a turkey baster!)
Nevertheless, after I learned this (and caught up to date on his saga via a very open and explicit live journal he had), I wrote him off as being an outlier. Not typical of real trans women. (Now I know better, and recognize he’s a total AGP and that AGPs are the standard.) If I have some time, I should hunt up that LJ and mine it. It would fit right in here. Hell - he might be part of the Tranch for all I know - it would certainly align with his life. Luckily for his wife, I believe their marriage ended before he trooned out. She finally got sick of his emotional abuse.
Skip ahead a bit, and I was working with a family member of my ex. Another TiM. This one was an asshole, and pretty misogynistic. (Par for the course in my ex’s family. All his brothers and uncles hated women. And despised me for not being subservient.) He was so paranoid that I was going to put him in the workplace. I nearly choked… but apparently he actually thought he passed. To describe this massive linebacker of a man in a frizzy wig, mom jeans, with a deep raspy voice and a lumbering gait that looked like Bigfoot with a wedgie doesn’t do it justice.
But still… this must be another outlier, right?
Then a few things happened in rapid succession…
I tripped across r/gendercritical. I was absolutely appalled and disgusted at a lot of the vitriol on that sub. But also… I found that there were some very valid and reasonable opinions that aligned with my beliefs (and common sense.) I was still turned off by a lot of it. But that may also be from my own prejudices towards some lesbians. (Back to living and working in the LGBT community - I have been sexually harassed, groped, assaulted and coerced by more butch lesbians than I have been by men.) So despite seeing rational arguments that validated what I had already witnessed about AGPs and TIMs, I was still in a “Terfs bad” mindset.
I don’t care about public bathrooms. I’ve patronized places that had no gendered bathrooms for years. I have no issues with whoever else is peeing in the next stall.
But when a full-bearded AGP went to the media because a woman with PTSD in a domestic violence shelter didn’t want to share a room, I was livid. This might not even be an AGP… I live near the shelter. This guy was full on male whenever I’d see him in the area. Ball scratching, cat-calling predator. And when the local endometriosis support group at the community Centre was infiltrated by menstruating AGPs, I was appalled. I realized these aren’t outliers at all.
Then my BFF’s asshole boyfriend happened… after strong arming her into being poly, and years of emotional manipulation he trooned out. She was a straight woman who never had any bisexual leanings (we had discussed this many times - she doesn’t have any interest in interacting with any vaginas besides her own) to being coerced into being Bi (as part of his polycule, because his primary partner was Bi. My friend was like… 4th down in the heirarchy.) And now, she identifies as a lesbian. Because it gives him dysphoria if she identifies as straight or Bi. As far as I know, his other primary partners bailed when he trooned, so now he requires a monogamous relationship and she isn’t allowed to have any other partners - especially not her male partners.)
She’s in a completely sexless relationship with this asshole. Her only role is to serve as his cheerleader and validate him. They no longer have sex because of his dysphoria and hormones. He’s gone full on fishnets and Lolita skirts, has a cutesy name, and is a mashup of all the transbians from the dating app thread. And he doesn’t want my friend to use any sex toys that penetrate, because a lesbian isn’t interested in dick, so she shouldn’t be. He hopes to get the chop in Montreal, but it’s taking forever… and he can’t go elsewhere because he is unemployed and living with his mom while grifting disability benefits. A couple of years ago he was a Yaniv proponent, but I don’t know where that stands today.
So, to everyone except my mom I am still a “live and let live” supporter. I’m in no position to draw the ire of the tranny brigade. But among family I’m open about my beliefs.
Oh, and apparently I’m also a transphobe. Before I ever peaked, I was called a TERF for stating that I would likely never date a trans guy. Because I have no interest in vaginas. I got a lecture from a Facebook friend of a friend that I cannot be an ally and have my own sexual and genital preferences. That may have been my first clue that these people are predators and will turn on anyone who doesn’t acquiesce to their entitlement. I was able to commiserate with a couple of my gay neighbours and friends who are dealing with TIFs on their hookup apps.
When I discovered years ago that a former friend had decided to transition, I was taken by surprise. You see, this lecherous, hairy bear of a man was the last person that I would expect to declare his womanhood at the age of 50-ish. I lived and worked closely with the LGBT community and knew trans people (mostly HSTS twinks now that I look back.) But this guy? This was a guy who made his affinity for women known, uncomfortably so. A guy who was so insistent on producing offspring of his own that he saw nothing wrong with suggesting that a teenage girl should be a surrogate when his wife couldn’t conceive. (And he wasn’t talking about IVF or a turkey baster!)
Nevertheless, after I learned this (and caught up to date on his saga via a very open and explicit live journal he had), I wrote him off as being an outlier. Not typical of real trans women. (Now I know better, and recognize he’s a total AGP and that AGPs are the standard.) If I have some time, I should hunt up that LJ and mine it. It would fit right in here. Hell - he might be part of the Tranch for all I know - it would certainly align with his life. Luckily for his wife, I believe their marriage ended before he trooned out. She finally got sick of his emotional abuse.
Skip ahead a bit, and I was working with a family member of my ex. Another TiM. This one was an asshole, and pretty misogynistic. (Par for the course in my ex’s family. All his brothers and uncles hated women. And despised me for not being subservient.) He was so paranoid that I was going to put him in the workplace. I nearly choked… but apparently he actually thought he passed. To describe this massive linebacker of a man in a frizzy wig, mom jeans, with a deep raspy voice and a lumbering gait that looked like Bigfoot with a wedgie doesn’t do it justice.
But still… this must be another outlier, right?
Then a few things happened in rapid succession…
I tripped across r/gendercritical. I was absolutely appalled and disgusted at a lot of the vitriol on that sub. But also… I found that there were some very valid and reasonable opinions that aligned with my beliefs (and common sense.) I was still turned off by a lot of it. But that may also be from my own prejudices towards some lesbians. (Back to living and working in the LGBT community - I have been sexually harassed, groped, assaulted and coerced by more butch lesbians than I have been by men.) So despite seeing rational arguments that validated what I had already witnessed about AGPs and TIMs, I was still in a “Terfs bad” mindset.
I don’t care about public bathrooms. I’ve patronized places that had no gendered bathrooms for years. I have no issues with whoever else is peeing in the next stall.
But when a full-bearded AGP went to the media because a woman with PTSD in a domestic violence shelter didn’t want to share a room, I was livid. This might not even be an AGP… I live near the shelter. This guy was full on male whenever I’d see him in the area. Ball scratching, cat-calling predator. And when the local endometriosis support group at the community Centre was infiltrated by menstruating AGPs, I was appalled. I realized these aren’t outliers at all.
Then my BFF’s asshole boyfriend happened… after strong arming her into being poly, and years of emotional manipulation he trooned out. She was a straight woman who never had any bisexual leanings (we had discussed this many times - she doesn’t have any interest in interacting with any vaginas besides her own) to being coerced into being Bi (as part of his polycule, because his primary partner was Bi. My friend was like… 4th down in the heirarchy.) And now, she identifies as a lesbian. Because it gives him dysphoria if she identifies as straight or Bi. As far as I know, his other primary partners bailed when he trooned, so now he requires a monogamous relationship and she isn’t allowed to have any other partners - especially not her male partners.)
She’s in a completely sexless relationship with this asshole. Her only role is to serve as his cheerleader and validate him. They no longer have sex because of his dysphoria and hormones. He’s gone full on fishnets and Lolita skirts, has a cutesy name, and is a mashup of all the transbians from the dating app thread. And he doesn’t want my friend to use any sex toys that penetrate, because a lesbian isn’t interested in dick, so she shouldn’t be. He hopes to get the chop in Montreal, but it’s taking forever… and he can’t go elsewhere because he is unemployed and living with his mom while grifting disability benefits. A couple of years ago he was a Yaniv proponent, but I don’t know where that stands today.
So, to everyone except my mom I am still a “live and let live” supporter. I’m in no position to draw the ire of the tranny brigade. But among family I’m open about my beliefs.
Oh, and apparently I’m also a transphobe. Before I ever peaked, I was called a TERF for stating that I would likely never date a trans guy. Because I have no interest in vaginas. I got a lecture from a Facebook friend of a friend that I cannot be an ally and have my own sexual and genital preferences. That may have been my first clue that these people are predators and will turn on anyone who doesn’t acquiesce to their entitlement. I was able to commiserate with a couple of my gay neighbours and friends who are dealing with TIFs on their hookup apps.
Edit: spoilered wall of text.
world news, behold the beautiful moment when a woman with a penis inserts it into… (Checks notes…) A man’s vagina.
