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At least 70% of these idiots won't live to see 35. I would sadly put money on that. Sterilised and mutilated at 19, that's that 2022 feelin'.
Because of that shit, I feel so cringe filling the graph "hobbies" anywhere. Vidya, table games, fantasy books, even fucking anime are just as ok as hobby as knitting but each time I think about it, the tard crowd like this comes to my mind. They are the last thing I'd want to be associated with even virtually just because sometimes I play DOOM.Wow my feed has been on fire today. Looks like someone's dad from the 70s:
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Classic AGP smirk. I'm sure trooning out will help with his mental illness:
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A guy naming himself Luna is only a little annoying. Sure:
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"Spiritual energy and healing" from the troon cosplayer. Seems legit:
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Not into hookup culture yet into non-monogamy. lolok:
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Agreed.
I have 3 things to blame, first is the all-around decay of family morals and values (fatherless kids, abusive households, junkie mothers, parents who straight up dgaf about what their kids are up to, what they're reading, who are their influences, who they hang out with irl and on the internet, i'm not saying helicopter parents are better, but having just a spec of interest on your child's development when they aren't in your inmediate area).
Its crazy how young girls saw mentally ill mtf trannies and thought "yea I want part of that"I know it's easy to focus on MTFs but jesus fuck there are so many FTMs these days.
Yeah you see that, I am ex-trans and honestly they dont want to accept that people may change their minds or without killing themselves (they keep on harping on about how all troons will suicide if they dont get what they want).Saw this on reddit. Trans logic at its finest. Detransitioning isn't really detransitioning or something along those lines:
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I think it's more that they saw the Kardashians and Jenners (and their ilk) progressively molding themselves into ever more plastic bodies, covered with ever more makeup, and wearing ever skimpier clothes. They watched every influencer on social media putting on Kim makeup and getting Kylie lip injections, trying to check off all the boxes of How To Be Hot. If they grew up on social media at all, they saw an overwhelming push toward a uniform "how to be a hot girl" standard, and all of those decisions were being made for them by some media whores in socal. That one look has absolutely dominated the popular aesthetic for, I don't know, 10+ years by now.Its crazy how young girls saw mentally ill mtf trannies and thought "yea I want part of that"
Do you have a source for this? I can't find any info on what type of households trans youth come from. I think the loudest troons probably do come from white middle-class two-parent families, but there's a more silent (still loud though considering how much they beg for money) majority who come from unstable homes.The new wave of young troons is mostly from white middle-class two-parent families. The parents left them alone on the internet because they had no idea who/what was lurking on the internet ready to influence them, but these kids weren’t neglected in terms of not being fed or parents not knowing where they are; that’s a different demographic.
Ironically these kids probably would have been better off if their parents practiced more of the “I don’t know exactly where my (older) kid is” style of parenting now and then, because maybe they would have been allowed to fucking go outside.
The type of zoomers who troon out are more likely to come from the American middle class helicopter parenting style (which does stunt kids emotionally and socially). Especially early on, these kids were victims of parents who enthusiastically “affirmed” them and went along with everything they wanted in their transition, because they believe that their kids are wise miniature adults: that’s an extremely middle class/upper middle class way of raising children.
If it was a matter of broken homes or absent parents or material neglect, Gen Z troons wouldn’t be so overwhelmingly white (and to a lesser extent Asian).
It's not entirely the parents fault, there's a big rant I could go on about transportation infrastructure and urban density and car centric city planning and restrictive zoning laws and how they all indirectly limit the freedom of movement of kids and teens, but that's way outside the scope of this thread. The important part is these little shits don't get out enough.Ironically these kids probably would have been better off if their parents practiced more of the “I don’t know exactly where my (older) kid is” style of parenting now and then, because maybe they would have been allowed to fucking go outside.
Oh don't worry I don't need to see FtM cringe online. My sister is currently trooning out.
It's more than just that, I think. We live in a culture where being a special snowflake is the end all be all, and a lot of these FTMs would have(and probably did) identified as "gay/bi/whatever" ten years ago, because back then that was at the cutting edge of snowflakeness.I think it's more that they saw the Kardashians and Jenners (and their ilk) progressively molding themselves into ever more plastic bodies, covered with ever more makeup, and wearing ever skimpier clothes. They watched every influencer on social media putting on Kim makeup and getting Kylie lip injections, trying to check off all the boxes of How To Be Hot. If they grew up on social media at all, they saw an overwhelming push toward a uniform "how to be a hot girl" standard, and all of those decisions were being made for them by some media whores in socal. That one look has absolutely dominated the popular aesthetic for, I don't know, 10+ years by now.
They could have stumbled into a subculture that pushed against this in a healthy way, like VSCO girls and their more natural looks and comfy styles. Unfortunately, they stumbled into a much louder subculture that told them, "You don't have to be a plucked, plastic influencer wannabe who never steps outside their bedroom without full contour on... if you're a boy!"
Nobody was handing out Hot Topic vouchers for the goths back then, but now there's state-sponsored chuunibyou.It's more than just that, I think. We live in a culture where being a special snowflake is the end all be all, and a lot of these FTMs would have(and probably did) identified as "gay/bi/whatever" ten years ago, because back then that was at the cutting edge of snowflakeness.
You have to remember it isn't relegated to video or table top games. The tard crowd is everywhere, it just hyperfocuses with men in technical or physical areas. There are autists in the sports world who obsess over certain teams and athletes. There are autistic girls who obsess over the minutiae of what makes someone a Hufflepuff or a Slytherine. Video games are just so popular, much like film or television, that that is where the propaganda materialises significantly more and attracts the most attention. Most people who would be interested in playing card or tabletop games are never going to touch it with a ten foot pole in the first place because of the autists. It also means catering to those autists because they are the ones who happily fork over $80 for a ruleset every three years to keep up with the official guides, or spend thousands on replacing "old" figures. You'll probably find the whales playing Warhammer and DnD are those who have no children and obsess over gender politics. I can tell you right now the people I know who play these are the lesbian, "genderqueer", lesbian, etc, weirdos I refuse to associate with and only know about because my friends who are just generally shy also attend. The latter make up probably less than 10% of the crowd that I know. There are weirdos who obsess over knitting too, the mummy-types who gatekeep it so only those who use certain techniques or create certain themes are welcome. Likewise, 90% of Paradox multiplayer Discords are either Fascists or Communists only and will get into shouting matches over the minutiae of ideology.Because of that shit, I feel so cringe filling the graph "hobbies" anywhere. Vidya, table games, fantasy books, even fucking anime are just as ok as hobby as knitting but each time I think about it, the tard crowd like this comes to my mind. They are the last thing I'd want to be associated with even virtually just because sometimes I play DOOM.
It is good to keep in mind that weirdos are usually only going to be the most visible part of the community. That's actually something WotC/Hasbro's own marketing team constantly says with regards to magic the gathering, so I imagine it's very likely also true for DnD, Warhammer, and a number of other nerd hobbies.You have to remember it isn't relegated to video or table top games. The tard crowd is everywhere, it just hyperfocuses with men in technical or physical areas. There are autists in the sports world who obsess over certain teams and athletes. There are autistic girls who obsess over the minutiae of what makes someone a Hufflepuff or a Slytherine. Video games are just so popular, much like film or television, that that is where the propaganda materialises significantly more and attracts the most attention. Most people who would be interested in playing card or tabletop games are never going to touch it with a ten foot pole in the first place because of the autists. It also means catering to those autists because they are the ones who happily fork over $80 for a ruleset every three years to keep up with the official guides, or spend thousands on replacing "old" figures. You'll probably find the whales playing Warhammer and DnD are those who have no children and obsess over gender politics. I can tell you right now the people I know who play these are the lesbian, "genderqueer", lesbian, etc, weirdos I refuse to associate with and only know about because my friends who are just generally shy also attend. The latter make up probably less than 10% of the crowd that I know. There are weirdos who obsess over knitting too, the mummy-types who gatekeep it so only those who use certain techniques or create certain themes are welcome. Likewise, 90% of Paradox multiplayer Discords are either Fascists or Communists only and will get into shouting matches over the minutiae of ideology.
It's always a losing battle because they are the ones who have the time and money, and you don't. Massively successful films and games and whatever else cannot survive by pandering to subsections of an audience. Battlefield 5 failed to meet expectations by a huge bar because of it and forced change back to the general audience. DnD cannot do anything but pander to niche groups, which is either nerds who grow up and out of gaming, or permanent teenagers who will never have nothing to spend on. It was almost inevitable to see these changes in that scene. Twenty years from now they'll pander to whatever other thing is in the zeitgeist with teenagers and young adults.
I don't have an official source (and I don't know if anyone has actually collected relevant data), I'm just going from observation and trends I've seen. There are definitely a few troons out there from unstable backgrounds, but I don't think they're the majority or even close to it. Most e-begging troons are begging because they have cut off contact with their family on the advice of the cult.Do you have a source for this? I can't find any info on what type of households trans youth come from. I think the loudest troons probably do come from white middle-class two-parent families, but there's a more silent (still loud though considering how much they beg for money) majority who come from unstable homes.
With the specification about "new wave" in mind (it's usually the people I refer to as troons, or troonbians. Haven't really ever seen a HSTS on the wild), my own anecdata seems to match yours. Most of them even had doting parents, in fact.I don't have an official source (and I don't know if anyone has actually collected relevant data), I'm just going from observation and trends I've seen. There are definitely a few troons out there from unstable backgrounds, but I don't think they're the majority or even close to it. Most e-begging troons are begging because they have cut off contact with their family on the advice of the cult.
Abigail Shrier interviewed a lot of parents of ROGD girls in her book, and the parents fit the middle-class parenting style I was talking about. Obviously book interviews are not meaningful on a population level, but it matched up to everything I have observed.
I also should have been more specific when I said the "new wave" of troons; I mean specifically the young heterosexual ones who make up the bulk of the gender explosion in the last 5 years or so. I think when it comes to say, HSTS, white people aren't overrepresented and might actually be underrepresented. But Gaydens and transbians are overwhelmingly white.
I fear that this will happen to most kids now a days who wondered into Twitter or tumbler and got groomedThe ritual of ascension illustrated:
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With that profile pic that reply sounds like the words of a gore fetishist. Yeah that's about the only profile that would find those scars "beautiful". Eugh.The ritual of ascension illustrated:
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