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Real talk I want to see what the effects of testostrone on a developing foetus are in a morbid way. Better or worse than alcohol? Better or worse than meth dependancy? Whatever comes out isn't making it to age 30.
 
Men can't get pregnant. If you're a FtM and are pregnant wouldn't it cause an absolutely insane amount of gender dysphoria and you'd want rid of it ASAP as opposed to bringing it to term while downing hormones?
That's what the copium concept "men can get pregnant too and it's ok!" is for: cut down on the gender dysphoria and fulfill all those MPreg fantasies FtMs have dreamed of.
 
Real talk I want to see what the effects of testostrone on a developing foetus are in a morbid way. Better or worse than alcohol? Better or worse than meth dependancy? Whatever comes out isn't making it to age 30.
A lot of 'Chad traits' usually associated with high-T males (strong jaw, firm brow, big dick) are more accurately influenced when the individual is just a fetus in the womb. Obviously this is all further determined by genetics, diet, environment, etc. etc., but to drastically oversimplify, the more test you get while in your mother, the more Chad you turn out later in life. I can only guess what sort of lantern-jawed beast is going to come out of a FtM breeder hole.
 
Oh man, where can I find the ostomy bag troon fanart?

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There’s nothing I love more than a tranny regret story where they’re blindsided by the completely obvious negatives that the other trannies didn’t tell them about.

Todays subject got dumped by his gf after emasculating himself and losing control of his dick because he thought estrogen would make him feel “more feminine”
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Gf loses respect for tranny “somehow” after he trades his ability to get an erection to become a sissy. Other trannies call it emotional abuse. I guess breaking up with someone is abuse now.

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But don’t worry, you can still get hard. You just have to slather your dick with this cream and inject this syringe and take Cialis DAILY and and and then maybe you can get back to where you started.

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I’m amazed that trannies don’t consider that taking hormones will affect their sexual health since the two seem to go hand in hand for me. This tranny didn’t even have a reason to troon out other than someone told him to and the fact that he’s a lil bitch at heart. At least his story might help others considering transition!! :)
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That's such a fucked up behavior on the part of the trans "friend" too. Why would someone who is "fluid" in their gender (whatever that means) need hormones in the first place. Why are they pushing hormones like a drug for fucks sake.
 
I do love how agp fuckers keep on taking estrogen up until their dicks don't work, it's kinda like how a lot of my tranny friends are down for bottom surgery up until it becomes something that will happen soon, they're transfixed with the inevitable surgery to masturbate over but not the reality of having their cock sliced off and turned into an innie.
 
There’s nothing I love more than a tranny regret story where they’re blindsided by the completely obvious negatives that the other trannies didn’t tell them about.

Todays subject got dumped by his gf after emasculating himself and losing control of his dick because he thought estrogen would make him feel “more feminine”
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Gf loses respect for tranny “somehow” after he trades his ability to get an erection to become a sissy. Other trannies call it emotional abuse. I guess breaking up with someone is abuse now.

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But don’t worry, you can still get hard. You just have to slather your dick with this cream and inject this syringe and take Cialis DAILY and and and then maybe you can get back to where you started.

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I’m amazed that trannies don’t consider that taking hormones will affect their sexual health since the two seem to go hand in hand for me. This tranny didn’t even have a reason to troon out other than someone told him to and the fact that he’s a lil bitch at heart. At least his story might help others considering transition!! :)
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Cis straight girl wants to be in a relationship with an actual *man* and get fucked with a *dick*? Then she dumps her idiotic bf after he decides to take unnatural hormones that break his penis? Say it isn't so!

I'll give the reddit trannies this much, they're right about dude's gf being abusive; only an abusive cunt would push her partner into taking hormone injections that will radically and permanently alter how he lives his life.
 
That's such a fucked up behavior on the part of the trans "friend" too. Why would someone who is "fluid" in their gender (whatever that means) need hormones in the first place. Why are they pushing hormones like a drug for fucks sake.
Tranny "friend" wanted to smash that puss and get his competition out of the picture by emasculating and neutering him. The slag girlfriend went along with it because the bf was getting boring anyway and if he could be "nudged" into self-castration she wouldn't have to feel guilty about dumping his eunuch ass.
 
Men can't get pregnant. If you're a FtM and are pregnant wouldn't it cause an absolutely insane amount of gender dysphoria and you'd want rid of it ASAP as opposed to bringing it to term while downing hormones?

It’s peculiar isn’t it? These are the same women who have a nervous breakdown when someone refers to “chestfeeding” as breastfeeding or calls their “fronthole” a vagina. Yet, pregnancy is fine? I haven’t even seen them try to create a “gender neutral” term for pregnancy.
 
It’s peculiar isn’t it? These are the same women who have a nervous breakdown when someone refers to “chestfeeding” as breastfeeding or calls their “fronthole” a vagina. Yet, pregnancy is fine? I haven’t even seen them try to create a “gender neutral” term for pregnancy.
I doubt this person actually wants to get pregnant, she just wants to stick it to the other person in the argument with the gender bullshit. FTM troons are basically being deployed strategically to deflect for MTFs, because women complaining about the cooptation of motherhood is a very effective anti-trans argument. So these FTMs run out saying "but I could be a mother", as though pulling attention off of motherhood as part of women's issues isn't going to lead to less attention to them.
 
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This creature blocks your path and offers you a toilet grilled cheese. What do?
Claim lactose intolerance.

I'll give the reddit trannies this much, they're right about dude's gf being abusive; only an abusive cunt would push her partner into taking hormone injections that will radically and permanently alter how he lives his life.
I’d be interested in hearing the other side of this story. Troons like to blame everyone but themselves for problems of their own making, so i wouldn’t be surprised if this is just how he tells it.
 
If it makes you feel any better, you get a bunch of straight women together with a bottle of wine and they start fighting too.
You gotta stop watching so much Real Housewives.

I doubt this person actually wants to get pregnant, she just wants to stick it to the other person in the argument with the gender bullshit. FTM troons are basically being deployed strategically to deflect for MTFs, because women complaining about the cooptation of motherhood is a very effective anti-trans argument. So these FTMs run out saying "but I could be a mother", as though pulling attention off of motherhood as part of women's issues isn't going to lead to less attention to them.
FTM=Flying Trans Monkeys
 
Copy and pasted from a TERF Tumblr, not my work. A list, with summaries, of a bunch of studies on the long-term mental health outcomes of transition.

Above are the categories by which each study will be evaluated. Most of these are self-explanatory but I’ll go over the less obvious ones:

length: length of the study in years

pre to post?: does the study track from before treatment starts to after, or only after? (yes/no)

controls?: is there a control group to compare with the trans group?

loss to follow up?: the percentage of study participants who dropped out before following up with the study. Dirks states in his video that if about 20% of participants drop out of the study before follow-up, researchers are generally inclined to scrap the study. it’s not an accurate study if 50% of participants bailed. However, for this reason, this category will be one of the most important to pay attention to.

Treatment: what is the specific treatment being studied?

So, let’s go into the first study.


(link to study)

this study is pretty recent, with a very small sample size but a substantial length of study. Treatment was intestinal vaginoplasty. It does not track pre to post, which means it’s hard to gauge if the trans participants improved after treatment from before. No controls, meaning it’s hard to gauge the participants’ health compared to an un “treated” population. Loss to follow-up was 62.5%, which, um… is not good. if that 62.5% of participants were still in the study, the results would likely be dramatically different. Calling into question the validity of this study at all.

Out of of 24 overall participants (including the dropouts), 5 died of “an unknown cause”. Not great.

Next one.


(link to study)

this was a retrospective study, meaning that the researchers were compiling the results of medical records in the past rather than doing an ongoing study. that’s why there is no loss to follow-up, and why the sample size is so impressive. the treatment was “CHS”: Cross-sex hormones. The length was 18.5 years. The participants are mixed-sex. notes:

67 deaths. 18 suicides. Many causes unascertainable (23). “External causes of death were increased almost eightfold due to suicide and illicit drug use. The suicide rate in MtF was increased sixfold. Thirteen out of the seventeen (76%) had received psychiatric treatment in the past. No suicides occured within the first 2 years of hormone treatment, while there were six suicides after 2-5 years, seven after 5-10 years, and four after more than 10 years of cross-sex hormone treatment at a mean age of 41.5 years (range 21-73 years).” FtM did not have elevated mortality. The MtF group was 72.6% of the total group.
Note that the risk for suicide went way up the longer time after treatment, suggesting that there is a “honeymoon” phase of “treatment”, which only lasts a few years at best, but then morphs into a literally inescapable nightmare that 16 people could not live with anymore. Because there is no control group, it’s hard to say just from here how elevated the suicide rate is in the general population compared to the participant group.

So I googled suicide stats in the Netherlands. in total, the suicide rate is 10.10 per 100,000 in 2011.

versus 18 suicides out of 1331 study participants. Even over the course of 18 years, that is a horrific outcome compared to the national average. if anyone wants to do the exact math here, I’d appreciate it.


(Kuhn):

(Simonsen):

(Ruppin & Pfafflin): note the high loss to follow-up rate. the psychiatric morbidity rate is not statistically lower after surgery from before, suggesting that sexual reassignment surgery is not at all an effective treatment for mental disturbance. also note the drastically lower age of mortality (60 years) compared with the general population (around 80 years).


(Lindemalm)

(Dhejne): from a sample size of 324, 10 out of 27 deaths are by suicide. Surgery put participants at greater risk of suicide and psychiatric inpatient care.

(Leriche)

(Wierckx)

(Hunt & Hampson)

(Rehman): notice that despite 3 out of 47 deaths over 7 years, self-reports were positive. I personally believe that when you’re trans (as I was) affirming your choice as the right one is crucial to the religion. Also to your sanity, since the only way you can live with yourself after ruining your body is to convince yourself you have in fact fixed your body.

(Auer): no psychological improvement after surgery over the course of 5.5 and 7 years; in fact, psychological deterioration.


(Weyers): Again, SELF-PERCIEVED improvement was reported by the study, but objective measures were less certain. Sexual functioning “considerably worse” than general population.

(Eldh, Berg)

(Sorensen): despite the assumption that SRS would “resocialize” the 6 male participants, allowing them to find jobs and integrate into the population, the results were significantly worse pre to post. “no occupation after followup” meaning SRS did not magically give MTFS a work ethic. elevated alcohol abuse. does that seem like “treatment” to you??

(Hepp)

(Lindqvist): notice the 70% dropout rate and the unchanged/lower health statistics after surgery.

(Johansson): “Significant discrepancy between clinician’s judgment of outcomes and patient’s. yeah, cos the patients are delusional and religious. also notice how the majority of patients’ health was unchanged by surgery.

(Kuiper)

(Pimenoff & Pfafflin)

(Bodlund & Kullgren)

(Sorensen): out of 8 participants who underwent phalloplasty, the majority had sexual and psychological problems. though there were no suicide attempts post surgery, 4 participants were on disablement pensions vs 1 pre-op. out of 8. 50 percent. and yet, only one stated regret. AGAIN, it is my belief that participants would be extremely unwilling to admit issues with their “life-saving” surgery despite objective evidence that it’s a failure. Imagine going through this extremely invasive surgery with the believe that your life will be complete afterwards and then only being met with needless suffering.


(De Cuypere): improved suicide stats but notice the significant dropout rate

(Van de Grift): AGAIN: the subjective measures of patient satisfaction did not reflective the poor objective statistics, such as the observation that patients experienced 2.42 times higher levels of negative psychological symptoms than the general population. AGAIN, an illustration of the level of delusion the participants had to reach in order to uphold their religion.

(Jellestad) :“The participants showed worse scores than the general population in virtually all measurement ranges of mental QoL.” QoL stands for Quality of Life.

In conclusion, the longterm studies on trans treatment options show unequivocally poor results. there is an initial period of patient satisfaction lasting a few years, but there is a drastic decline 5, 10 years down the line with increased risk of suicide and psychological and physical disability. Patients report way higher levels of satisfaction than objective statistics measuring health and well-being, indicating that they are not accurately perceiving reality.
 
Adjusted suicide rate of 1,352 per 100,000 people over 18 years. Versus 182 expected in the baseline population. 7.5 : 1

If it's harm reduction, it's not doing a terribly good job.
 
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