I had one on my wall as a kid on account of I really liked Pantera, and Dimebag had a Confederate flag guitar. I didn't really know about the American Civil War all that much; I just liked Pantera
Ok, I can buy that. I meant more for political purposes. What was Canada even doing during the 1860s?
I remember them flying at a Lynrd Skynrd concert years ago and I didn't think of it as anything other than pride in the South. To be honest, I'm not even convinced today that it's a racist flag. There are certainly people who fly it that aren't racist.
In some of the more rural parts of both Canada and the northeastern US, people identity the Confederate flag in their minds as being 'country' and representative of living a rural lifestyle and they're more than happy to wave it. It has nothing to do with race for them. IIRC some Canadian military formations liked to associate themselves with the flag back in the 80s and 90s.
This woman averages 50 tweets a day. I say this while posting on Kiwifarms, but no one who is on Twitter that often is of a sound mind.
most people on Twitter are all mentally ill
IMO, the Confederate Battleflag has been pretty unfairly besmirched. It was the Army flag for a defeated country and after the Civil War it was less about "muh slavery" and more about a statement of saying "we will still resist".
I know that about the US. PL: im a native New Yorker to my great shame and I know why a lot in the NE fly it. It just baffles me that Canadians do too.
Giving refuge to traitors like Clement Vallandingham (although tbf really it was the US government that exiled him and asked Canada to take him, the leafs said yeah sure)
Such a traitor that he won his election in absentia because of the tyrant in the White House.
Don't make us march to the sea again, Johnny Reb.
Holy shit he is an 11 out of 10 on the drunk scale here.
Proto-Canada (because this was shortly before confederation and dominion status etc.) was actually pretty involved in the US Civil War, at least for a party not officially in the war, and proto-Canada sided with the Confederacy. I think the main reason was basically just that the British Empire wanted the USA to split in two, as a divide and conquer tactic. In terms of proto-Canadian involvement, it was both on land and at sea. Some CSA ships were allowed to conduct raids out of Eastern Canadian ports, using them to restock and avoid Union vessels, and there were also land raids launched out of Central Canada. See:
Canada's identity is "not America," and Confederate stuff is a low-class version of that. Nobody thought of those symbols as race signaling until recently. To people whose minds live outside the bluecheck bubble, a Confederate flag still means Fuck you, the Man.
The British elite were butthurt over their former colony succeeding, they felt a kinship to the planter aristocracy of the South, but most of all they feared the rise of the USA as a rival that would soon surpass the UK in wealth and power despite being made up of low class scum always braying about freedumb. They saw the war as a chance for the USA to be knocked down a peg and become a less serious future threat to British commercial and military hegemony. But Albert and to a lesser degree Victoria liked the north, both hated slavery, and both wanted the UK to be strictly neutral. Without that Palmerston probably would have lended the South the Royal Navy to fuck over the North.Proto-Canada (because this was shortly before confederation and dominion status etc.) was actually pretty involved in the US Civil War, at least for a party not officially in the war, and proto-Canada sided with the Confederacy. I think the main reason was basically just that the British Empire wanted the USA to split in two, as a divide and conquer tactic. In terms of proto-Canadian involvement, it was both on land and at sea. Some CSA ships were allowed to conduct raids out of Eastern Canadian ports, using them to restock and avoid Union vessels, and there were also land raids launched out of Central Canada. See:
CSS Tallahassee - Wikipedia
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St. Albans Raid - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This is very much a little known fact even within Canada, because the Canadian neolib elite find it deeply embarrassing. Proto-Canada's allegiance to the CSA seems to have gone beyond mere geopolitical jockeying, however. Canada's most important founding father, Sir John A. MacDonald (whose statues have been getting torn down due to cultural revolution, as of late), is said to have so named Canada's confederation as an homage to the CSA, out of his deep admiration for the Confederacy. Additionally, I have heard it said that he partly modelled Canada's division of powers on the CSA's system. Canada indeed has more of what Americans would call a "states' rights" ethos than the United States.
What a pair of faggots.
