Culture Why You Can’t Get a Table for Six at a Restaurant - Large parties, from couples out for date night to Grandma’s 80th birthday, suck up staff time and reduce a restaurant’s ability to turn over tables and make a profit during a period of increasing food costs.

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The noise, longer seatings and smaller per-person bills are negatives, so reservations for big groups are hard to come by​

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ILLUSTRATION: GREG CLARKE

By Alina Dizik
March 3, 2024 8:57 pm ET

Busy restaurants have a message for customers: Come dine with us. Leave your extra friends at home.

The eateries want your business, of course. But with ongoing staffing shortages, you and your gang of eight or even six are just too much work. Large parties, from couples out for date night to Grandma’s 80th birthday, suck up staff time and reduce a restaurant’s ability to turn over tables and make a profit during a period of increasing food costs. You’re kinda noisy too, which annoys other customers.

The pushback is leaving consumers both surprised and frustrated. How do you dine family-style with only half the family? Or celebrate the deal with only a few of the office crew?

Some determined diners are now calling reluctant restaurants to personally plead their case, or trying creative (and sneaky) workarounds, such as booking two tables that they then plan to push together. They say they have to get creative, since going through online reservations systems rarely seems to turn up large tables. Those who do manage to book larger parties say they sometimes must leave additional deposits or preorder—and prepay.

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Craig Silver, right, had trouble finding a seven-person table for the birthday of his fiancée, Anyea Taylor, left. PHOTO: XAVIER TAYLOR

Craig Silver, 35, says he has spent hours over recent weeks trying to book a seven-person reservation for his fiancée’s birthday later this month.
He’s struck out on most of his top options and was hesitant to pay a $140 deposit that one restaurant wanted for the reservation. He estimates the table will likely spend more than $80 a person.

“I’m surprised at how hard this has been,” says Silver, a Chicago-based app developer. “People want to go out and celebrate their birthdays with more than four people.”

‘We can, but we won’t’​

Groups of six or more made up 8% of the 2023 reservations booked on Resy, a reservations platform owned by American Express—a percentage that has held roughly stable since 2018. Just over half of reservations are for tables of two, according to the data.

“We don’t go above six. We can, but we won’t,” says Kelly Whitaker, owner of The Wolf’s Tailor, a Denver spot serving wild game. The restaurant has tightened its seating policies in recent years. It now requires larger parties to work with the restaurant to preorder family-style meals to guarantee check averages.

Some diners don’t understand why the restaurant can’t accommodate their party of eight by pushing tables together. Regulars complain when they can’t get their big group in, says Whitaker, who owns four more restaurants in the area, some of which seat larger parties.

At New York’s Barbuto, tables for five and six are often the first to go when released for online reservations, general manager Evan Campbell says. The larger tables are generally offered only once an evening because the restaurant prefers seating smaller two- and four-tops. Those meals usually move faster, increasing table turnover and revenue.

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Maxwells Trading in Chicago seats mostly smaller parties because larger groups linger longer over dinner and are harder to serve. JEFF MARINI (2)

Restaurateurs say the decision to offer smaller tables goes far beyond profits. Many are more conscious of the needs of their labor force since the pandemic. Seating too many large parties can put stress on the kitchen and waitstaff.

“It really throws a wrench in the gears of service,” says Josh Tilden, a partner at Maxwells Trading, a new Chicago restaurant.

The restaurant, which is busy every night, limits seating parties larger than four for most of the evening. It tries to seat tables for five or six at either 5 p.m. or 8 p.m. The sole large table for 10 requires a deposit that becomes nonrefundable within a week of the reservation to protect against last-minute cancellations.

In Charleston, S.C., FIG rarely accommodates tables of more than six, chef and partner Mike Lata says. Continued demand from diners allows the 20-year-old restaurant to be more selective. Larger parties also tend to arrive at different times, slowing service.

“Eight people trying to get an order together could take 45 minutes,” he says.

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FIG, a Charleston, S.C., restaurant, avoids seating parties larger than six. PHOTO: PETER FRANK EDWARDS

Searching for workarounds​

Lauren Wire, a 35-year-old New York publicist, admits to being “a little bit more nimble” to land tables for seven or more people in the past few years. Since few reservation platforms let her book larger tables outright, she finds larger tables by having brunch instead of dinner or offers to squeeze seven people when she has managed to land one for six.

Seeing friends for meals out has become more important now that she works mostly from home. She tries to warn fellow diners that the restaurants willing to accommodate their group may not be as good or may require eating a preset menu.

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Lauren Wire, center, prefers hosting a restaurant brunch instead of dinner when she needs a larger table. PHOTO: LAUREN WIRE

Lynn Harris, 43, says if she’s going out in a group of six or eight, she tries to expand an already booked reservation for four, which can be easier than searching for a larger table from the outset. Instead, she’ll try to find out the restaurant’s phone number to speak to someone rather than making the change electronically.

“If I get someone on the phone, they are really accommodating and just act like a human being,” says Harris, who works in software sales in Denver.
Sameer Paradkar, 48, a software engineer in West Windsor, N.J., who commutes to New York, says he hasn’t visited a restaurant in the city with a larger group in recent years.

“It’s too much of a hassle to go through all that for a bigger group,” he says. He’s found some suburban restaurants closer to home eager to seat an eight-person group on the same evening.

At Astera, a new plant-based Portland, Ore., restaurant, owner Aaron Adams says customers “push back so hard” on the restaurant’s policy. He says he has become “emboldened” to explain to guests why the restaurant can’t just move tables together and accommodate a larger party.

And for those still not understanding, he’s quick to share some wisdom: “Invite people to your apartment and make dinner.”

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Portland, Ore., restaurant Astera takes reservations for parties of six or less. PHOTO: JOSH CHANG

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What the fuck kind of shit is this?

Restaurants are for eating with family and friends. If you don't want that custom, then don't offer tables for 6, or tack on a service fee, or whatever.

Also, what kind of bughive shit is this? I haven't waited for a table since before the pandemic.

Seat me, server.
 
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The fuck is this shit? How is a table of six more work than three tables of two?
sounds to me like what they’re really saying is families with kids gtfo
 
Every time I'm out with a group of people, we're drinking, and the profit to labor involved in serving drinks is massively better than serving food.
 
"Jarvis, bring up the racial composition of each city where this phenomenon is occurring."
 
Except people trying to reserve will just lie.

I literally had this happen recently with some friends. The restaurant website would only go up to 6 and there was going to be 7 of us.

So my friends booked a table for 6 because the baby being number 7 didn't "count" because she wasn't eating there, just vibing in the carrier.

Guess what? We got our table and commandeered a chair for the kid. Soon people will be booking seperate tables of five and just dragging them together themselves.
 
The fuck is this shit? How is a table of six more work than three tables of two?
sounds to me like what they’re really saying is families with kids gtfo
Came here to post this.
Seating too many large parties can put stress on the kitchen and waitstaff.
They're also saying that large tables eat LESS per person per minute and thus waste precious seating:
Those [2-person] meals usually move faster, increasing table turnover and revenue.
If big tables eat less, then you have to cook less and haul less.

He says he has become “emboldened” to explain to guests why the restaurant can’t just move tables together and accommodate a larger party.

And for those still not understanding, he’s quick to share some wisdom: “Invite people to your apartment and make dinner.”
They will, nigger! They'll order delivery. And restaurants as an industry will fucking die as they should.
 
The fuck is this shit? How is a table of six more work than three tables of two?
sounds to me like what they’re really saying is families with kids gtfo
It's not families that's the problem.

The first city cited was Chicago. Do you need another hint?

Ignoring the fact that certain demographics are a nightmare to deal with in large groups (in fact, I think there was an article posted on here 1-2 years ago), large bookings can and usually do fuck the kitchen over, which slows down service for the entire restaurant. They can also suck revenue, because larger groups tend to spend more time socializing (eg, singing happy birthday, opening presents, taking pictures, whatever.)

But you know how you get around that? Reservations. Having a menu that's set up to handle things if you're chronically understaffed. You don't do that by telling people to fuck off to their apartment and cook for people.

I've been to all sorts of places across the States and one thing that has always stuck with me is the level of service I get from staff wherever I go. Doesn't matter if it's a Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. or a fine dining establishment, I was always impressed with the level of service.

Seems that's changing.

There are issues in the bar and service industry, and one of the big ones are the online reservation apps like Open Table. Another big issue is that people will over estimate their party sizes. A good rule of thumb is that any non-regular large reservation is going to most likely be 50-60% of the actual reservation. The person placing the reservation will inflate it by a few 'just in case', people will cancel, etc. Smart owners/managers realise this and staff accordingly, others don't and go out of business.

And if this is fine dining or whatever? Yeah, I could sympathize with some of these establishments. You generally want a more intimate and smaller atmosphere and fine dining usually doesn't have a lot of capacity, so yeah, large parties are a massive revenue suck when you have limited seating.

But the question I'd pose to these assholes is if your totally busy and won't be closed in a year 'plant based restaurant' had 8 people walk in on a slow night, would you tell them to fuck off? No? Then why is it such a hardship if they give you advance warning, cretin.

EDIT: I'm also curious how many of these restaurants that don't take reservations are on Uber Eats and other food delivery apps. Kind of stupid to be complaining about dwindling revenue when you kowtow to the food apps that roughly sodomize you with the cuts they take.
 
So the arguments against larger groups seem to be that they linger too long and possibly that it takes a lot of staff resources to prepare and serve more meals simultaneously.

It still seems like mad pretentious that any restaurant in 2024 would be turning away large groups of paying customers.

Maybe lockdowns should've killed them all off after all.
 
What kind of bull crap is this? You don't have money to hire more stuff, food costs are rising, so your solution is to turn away the clients?

Also doesn't every establishment in North America implement additional service charges for "large parties" (so anything above 4 I'm guessing)?

Every time I'm out with a group of people, we're drinking, and the profit to labor involved in serving drinks is massively better than serving food.

This precisely. One thing you can bet on is that a group of people dining together to celebrate something will be boozing. How do these restauranteurs also know that these aren't business meetings, in which case a lot can be spent on alcohol alone and deducted from the tax.

AFAIK a lot of restaurants make significant amount of money on alcohol.

@Well Intentioned "The first city cited was Chicago. Do you need another hint?
Ignoring the fact that certain demographics are a nightmare to deal with in large groups"

I don't know man, my husband and I go to the US for work a lot and he has a thing for places like Red Lobster and TGI Fridays (I mean we have that in Europe but it's not the same), so we often end up there where it's all black people and tbf we never see people chimping out. If anything they can be a bit rowdy but goddamn they order a lot of food.

I know the restaurants mentioned above are not your mid-lower class chains , but as a restaurant owner if I had a reserved table for 6 black people then at least I know they are gonna eat lol
 
There are five people in my nuclear family and I cook dinner all the fucking time. Just let me hit the Hut occasionally with my kids.

(Actually, I have noticed it being harder to get seated as a group of four in the "mall food court" level fast casual places lately with the shorties. Lots of places seem to have moved to almost exclusively two-seat booths/tables. Which is vaguely annoying; TGI's is not fucking fancy enough to expect people to not bring kids there.)
 
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