White Settlement Church Shooting

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mindlessobserver said:
Having worked next door to a homeless shelter I can confirm that you will never find a more entitled bunch of losers. They all invariably are broken in some way. Either through mental issues or drugs. Barring that it is VERY hard to be homeless in America. Even a minimum wage job can get you a shared piece of shit apartment. It takes the patience of a saint to work with them, and more often then not the person behind the desk at the shelter would be some hard nosed black woman from the projects who wont take no shit from nobody.
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I mean, it's commonplace knowledge that a majority of homelessness stems from drug abuse. Attempting to reason with or try to help a person who is at rock bottom and whose strings are being pulled by crazy addictive substances is not easy.
 
GentooGuy said:
Alright, now that we know what the guy looks like let's guess his motive:
>Schizo/Autism/Anger Issues
>Wigger/BLM
>Atheist
>Convert
>Nazi (although I think we can rule that out)
>Cultist
>Nomad/Drifter
>Former Affiliate
>Shitlib/Commie
>Daddy Issues
>Gay Ops
>Druggie
>Incel
>2nd Amendment Auditor
>MKULTRA GANG "Da Interwebz radicalized him!!!11!1!"
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We've definitely confirmed Nomad/Drifter but I also think there's some overlap with Schizo and maybe Commie and Atheist since he seems to travel all over the country. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a left-wing gutter punk/crust punk, as that is the part of the punk subculture that the American version of Antifa largely emerged from in the 80's and early 90's.

As for him attending the church a few times, a lot of homeless people will do that just to get access to certain charity items, including gutter punks (they tend to grift more liberal churches though) but who knows what was going through this guy's head. Unless the police find a manifesto, the only things we can confirm is that he is a drifter and probably has issues with mental illness and possibly drug abuse.
 
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what do you wager her PHD is in?
 
I would say it’s more likely than not that this guy was a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

Male victims of CSA have greatly increased rates of homelessness, mental health issues, substance abuse issues and histories of violent crime.
 
Some more info on the shooter.

www.nbcdfw.com

‘We Knew He Was Crazy, But Not Like This,’ Ex-Wife of Church Gunman Says

The man who fatally shot two people at a White Settlement Church on Sunday before being killed by church security has been identified as a 43-year-old Keith Thomas Kinnunen, a River Oaks man described by his ex-wife as “battling a demon” and “not nice to anyone.”
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The man who fatally shot two people at a White Settlement Church on Sunday before being killed by church security has been identified as a 43-year-old Keith Thomas Kinnunen, a River Oaks man with a long criminal history and described by his ex-wife as "battling a demon" and "not nice to anyone."

Kinnunen was identified as the shooter Monday morning by two law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation. NBC 5 has learned his criminal past included charges of assault, theft, arson and possession of an illegal weapon in Texas, Oklahoma and New Jersey.

Kinnunen was believed to have been wearing a disguise, including a fake beard and wig, when he stood up from a pew during communion, pulled a shotgun from his clothing and opened fire inside a North Texas church, killing 64-year-old Anton Wallace, a church deacon from Fort Worth, and 67-year-old Richard White, of River Oaks.

Volunteer church security immediately approached Kinnunen and returned fire, killing him.

"I was so surprised because I did not know that so many in the church were armed," Isabel Arreola said, telling the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that she was sitting near the gunman, had never seen him before, looked like he was wearing a disguise and that he "made her uncomfortable."

The FBI is working to identify the shooter's motive. Matthew DeSarno, the Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Dallas field office, said the gunman was "relatively transient," but had roots in the area.

Britt Farmer, senior minister at West Freeway Church of Christ, confirmed Monday that the church had provided Kinnunen with food on multiple occasions, but wasn't sure of the date of the most recent gift. The church also confirmed Kinnunen had asked for money, but was not given any.

Church leaders said they did not recognize Kinnunen on Sunday morning because he was in disguise, confirmed the son of the church's senior minister. In fact, many lifelong church members said they immediately noticed the strange man because it appeared he was wearing a large, fake beard.

Kinnunen's ex-wife, Cindy Glasgow-Voegel, filed for a protective order in January 2012 in Grady County, Oklahoma. In her statement in the order, she wrote, "Keith is a violent, paranoid person with a long line of assault and batteries with and without firearms. He is a religious fanatic, says he's battling a demon. He is not nice to anyone."

In that same 2012 document, Glasgow-Voegel said Kinnunen showed up at her home in October 2011 unannounced, with no money or vehicle, asking to see his son. She said she got him a trailer and a job and that he quit the job, assaulted a man in Tuttle, Oklahoma, and was in the county jail. She said their 15-year-old son was "terrified" of his father and that he threatened her should she try to keep them apart.

In the protective order, the woman said her son was visiting his father when he set several fires around Tuttle and that her son recorded the arson but didn't saying anything out of fear of retaliation. An arrest warrant affidavit filed in December 2011, that included a statement from his teenage son, said Kinnunen set a cotton field on fire using lamp oil, tampons and a lighter. His son also said his father liked to play "fire football," where he soaked a football in a flammable liquid, lit the ball on fire and then they'd toss it back and forth. The teen told police he thought it was unsafe but that he was "afraid he might get mad at me if I asked to stop."

In November 2011, two months before his ex-wife filed the protective order, Kinnunen was charged with aggravated assault and battery in Grady County, Oklahoma, after he repeatedly hit a man in the face, breaking his nose.

Locally, Kinnunen had a criminal record in Tarrant County including charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in 2009 and theft of property in 2013. River Oaks police arrested him in 2009 and 2015 on warrants for unpaid traffic tickets, River Oaks, Deputy Police Chief Charles Stewart said.

Court records show Kinnunen sued a Fort Worth nightclub, the OK Corral on the South Freeway, in 2007 alleging he was “relaxing” in the club when attacked by several of its employees, including the manager.

His complaint said he “suffered serious and disabling injuries” and would continue to “suffer severe mental and physical pain and distress in the future.” The operators of the club denied the allegations and the case was eventually settled out of court, according to the records.

Kinnunen also was arrested in September 2016 for possession of an illegal weapon in Linden, New Jersey, after he was found taking pictures outside an oil refinery, WNBC in New York has confirmed. Kinnunen said he was traveling from Texas, was homeless and was taking photos of “interesting sites.”

At the time of his New Jersey arrest, Kinnunen also had a warrant for his arrest in Oklahoma for aggravated assault, mycentraljersey.com reported.

NBC 5 has learned Kinnunen was once licensed as a landscape irrigator and backflow prevention assembly tester. No other information about his employment history has been confirmed.

Stewart said Texas Rangers and other law enforcement officers searched Kinnunen’s home on Sunday soon after the shooting at the church.
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Superman93 said:
Another thing is why hasn’t this made headlines all over the country? I tried searching up many headlines for this and very few major outlines even covered this.
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Superman93 said:
This would be great for the morale of the American public. Instead of cowering in fear, waiting for first responders, and hoping some re-tard’s stray bullet won’t hit you people chose to stand up and say no more. If we had a bunch of headlines like that I bet these mass shootings would decrease instantly.
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Sounds to me like you answered your own question.
 
Dumb Bitch Smoothie said:
Victimhood.
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I was going to say sucking dick.

Fareal said:
I would say it’s more likely than not that this guy was a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

Male victims of CSA have greatly increased rates of homelessness, mental health issues, substance abuse issues and histories of violent crime.
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Plenty of kids get touched or banged, they don't wind up shooting churches or the world would be a place of complete anarchy.
 
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GentooGuy said:
Well that proves that he was a nomad/drifter but I am still curious what caused him to chimp out. This also kind of implies to me that he might not actually be an edgy atheist but might have just had really bad anger issues. Who the hell knows
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Some of the articles mention he was asking for money. It kinda makes me think druggie. I've seen some addicts completely flip shit when someone refuses to give them money.
 
Salty Boris said:
The shooter is identified, dig in Kiwis.

www.fox4news.com

Gunman who killed 2 during White Settlement church service identified

Keith Kinnunen, 43, had been arrested multiple times in North Texas and other states. He was known to church leaders after he visited West Freeway Church of Christ several times.
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Name: Keith Thomas Kinnunen
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I just pulled his AZ records. Here was in Tucson and got arrested a lot
 
The more I analyze the video the more it hits home for me. I have a few connections to this church. Hearing the young boy in the video crying for his "papa" and the boy's mother screaming in the purest form of fear and shock is well... Heartbreaking. This doesn't feel like reality if you simply read or watch it online. Just another shooting with a badass taking down the perp. For me that's all these shootings became. But with that small sliver of a connection it suddenly makes it real for me.

What we have to realize, those of us in America. Is that at this point, nowhere is safe. I had a question about whether I would ever use a firearm against someone once. Now I'm enrolled in courses to actually get better at using my weapons. Like Mr. Wilson said, evil exists.

I left the evangelical church when I was younger, moved far away, and never thought twice about God until now. Whether there really was a heaven or hell. We all die and if there is any truth to what is taught in any religion, I hope hell and heaven exist. A shot to the head and non-existence is too good for the man who killed those innocent people. And the innocents that died that day deserved a lot better.
 
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