💬 Off-Topic Trans Kiwifarmers Discussion Thread - Just what it says on the tin

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Gonna rant a little bit (someone has to keep the thread alive).

It sucks so much to be a right wing tranny. It's being intelligent enough to understand you're fucked up, but being too mentally ill to overcome it.
And as a result, you feel alien in both political groups: lefts dislike you because "You're too mean and unwholesome", rights dislike you cuz tranny (even though, I must say, rightwingers are far more chill and acceptable then lefts like to paint them, that's what I stick with the righties (this, and my own values)).

Sometimes I think I would be happier as a leftoid. They seem so blissfully unaware of shit around them, constantly hiding away in a blanket of nostalgia and other kiddy shit. I don't know if they're truly happy, but I think it is more convenient to be one (not even in political sense: they just have a more easy way of thinking of "the world is wrong and bad and I am the mistreated").

Don't get me wrong, I don't think their life is gonna be great in the future. Most of them are gonna end up as childless losers. And it's due to them being fucked up, but at least they don't know it.

Have anyone also felt that way?

Do you think it's better to be so naive you're unaware of things around you or being fairly insightful, but insightful of some depressing shit? This question is not about tranny topic specifically, just in general.
There's an easy solution. Rope yourself. Then the pain will stop. You'll be at ease. You'll be safe and comfortable after a lifetime of suffering. Your family will finally be at peace. You know it's for the best. You know you'll never feel safe or happy until it happens. Let the warm embrace of death swallow you like a warm blanket. Let all your problems melt away.
 
Your family will finally be at peace
killing yourself is the most ungrateful thing one can do to their family

Rope yourself
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out of all people on this site, you aren't the one to get cocky
 
I'm going to have a family and children, my condition will not prevent me from doing so.
As long as you don't origami your genitals and you engage in heterosexual sex, then yes, you can have children. Or just be a regular gnc lesbian (because I'm assuming you are female) and adopt with a woman who will tolerate you. It's not a matter of ability, but one of ethics. Yes, you can have children, but should you?
You say it's a mental illness or a medical condition and you want to risk passing that on to your children? That's not very based and trad.
 
adoption is an option too, like you said
You are clearly refusing to address the obvious, damning points. This only further proves that "based tranny" is an oxymoron. If you get bottom surgery, please post your results in the SRS thread. Trans healthcare is live saving care!
 
But I'm not ill enough to not live a fulfilling life.
In the most empathetic way possible, I implore you to think twice about having a family - or at least raising kids of your own - if only for one particular reason: unless you are in extremely intensive therapy and are cognizant that your inner tranny nonsense will inevitably shape your actions and statements and are prepared to mitigate it, you may inadvertently leave deep scars of sexism on your children that could lead them to developing a similar condition.

I'm divided on how much I believe troonacy is a nature/nurture thing, but one thing I know for certain is that it is not enough to simply be aware of your flaws; you must also be actively working towards protecting your children from them. I won't PL, but personal experience has shown me that recognition of malignant traits from parental figures is not enough: you must also be fighting every day to rid yourself of them, which is a painful and challenging undertaking even without little ones in your midst. I admire anyone trying to work on becoming a better person, but there are some situations where I think your attempts are best pursued without a tiny audience watching as they grow.

Parents, relatives, caregivers and other points of authority who care for children play architect to the minds they live in for the rest of their lives, and as such it is not a duty to be taken lightly. If you know you have a mental illness which inclines you toward an inherent hatred/discomfort towards your sex (and therefore a glorification of the opposite sex), in what way do you intend to keep those wolves at bay so that they never reach your child? What contingency plan do you have in place to ensure you never become like the countless stories in which people troon 'n' poon out later in life after decades of repressing their lunacy? These are important questions to answer for yourself before you make any major moves to have a family.

With all that said, do I believe your desire for a family is inherently predatory? Not in the slightest; a longing for a clan to call our own is one of the most innately human things about us, and one of our greatest strengths as a species is our eagerness to share the love we have with others in whatever ways we can. But a damaging household, even if loving, remains damaging nonetheless, and I can't help but think having a covert troon parent of either flavor would not necessarily bode well for your future generation even if you've got good intentions. What else is the road to hell paved in?

If you're certain you can get enough help to keep your mental illness controlled, then technically no one can stop you, so all one can do is argue from the heart whether this is something you really ought to do. What you do next is up to you; just remember that sometimes the greatest act of love is to let go of what you want in order to do what is right.
 
Do you think it's better to be so naive you're unaware of things around you or being fairly insightful, but insightful of some depressing shit? This question is not about tranny topic specifically, just in general.
You want to have a family; what will you say to your own son/daughter when they struggle with the same question?

I know what I would say, a rat that's rotting under the kitchen will not dissapear or stop making a stench no matter how much I pretend it's not there or no matter how many times I say "it is what it is".

Also, even Chris Chan was aware of his issues, no one is that naive, it's impossible unless you have down syndrome. They just refuse (and outright go out of their way to ban, if it's Reddit) anything that reminds them of that, one glance at any tranny subreddit shows that not only they are constantly aware of their problems, they have to constantly ask eachother for support and validation.
 
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I'm not really transphobic actually, I just like to laugh at lolcows on the internet
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I still wouldn't say I'm hateful, but there's something about trans mascs that I really just can't stand (though this is mostly on how they act on X/TikTok/Instagram/etc., the ones I know IRL are fine)
Self-aggrandizing, sometimes even liking the fact they aren't as scorned by society for trying to pass as men and giving up on womanhood and not just cutting themselves like every other emo kid. It's really sad to see, though I won't pretend to know what they are facing personally
 
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