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Not Dr. Evil said:
This is comparing apples to oranges Big Al.
Precocious puberty is an endocrine issue.
Troonery is purely a mental health issue.

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It seems they have forgotten that medicine is applied to the whole of humanity and knowing what's "normal" is important to establish baselines for behavior, treatment, and medication dosage.

Cis kids are normal. They want to stay normal, and not be a medical oddity. They want to grow up normal, on a normal time table.

Trannies are not normal. They do not want to be normal, and choose to be a medical oddity. Of course they are jealous of normal kids using puberty blockers to remain normal because they want to use them to stop being normal.
 
A.P. Hill said:
All you need to do to shut this down is say that it doesn't matter how it works in bees because we're not bees.
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We need to force pro-TIM/TIF people into their actual defence: "Our position is right, because Lawmakers and Politicians say so". Give them the fact that the US Army, MI6 and Multi-Nationals adore them. . .let them run with that bully pulpit.

Because on every nation on Earth today, if there were a Plebiscite about Transgender Medicine, 100% of them would ban these practices with a majority.
If Transgender Medicine was placed under the same level of ethical relativism from the board as say cancer care for the over 80s, it would be limited to people over 18 after a lengthy psychiatric evaluation, which is to say, a soft censure.

The "legitimacy" of TIMs and TIFs come from a powerful international lobby, it comes from the United States itself as a Global Promoter of LGBT rights, it comes from black letter lobbying from groups like the Mercers, the Arch-Villains of the early 00s Left in America, who engineered policy based on their pro-trans ideology, all the while supporting Military Expansion in the Middle East.
 
Not Dr. Evil said:
This is comparing apples to oranges Big Al.
Precocious puberty is an endocrine issue.
Troonery is purely a mental health issue.

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It never occurs to Alex that Precocious puberty and troonery are both disturbing and wrong and must be stopped

All you need to do to shut this down is say that it doesn't matter how it works in bees because we're not bees.
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You can also mention how our last common ancestor with bees was hundreds of millions of years ago
 
I ran into this on reddit and thought you all might enjoy





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AI_Jolson_2point2 said:
I ran into this on reddit and thought you all might enjoy
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It's a terrifying glimpse into their reality that redefining words in a linguistic sense is supposed to completely change the results of scientific research. This is the exact reason law and medicine have used Latin to specify terms and disorders, because we are no longer arguing what things mean in Latin. It's honestly disgusting how they can feel like they win an argument when they don't engage the actual point and redirect it to something that isn't even relevant to the actual discussion - all the while feeling like they are the intellectual superior. Fake and gay, is what it all is.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
It's a terrifying glimpse into their reality that redefining words in a linguistic sense is supposed to completely change the results of scientific research. This is the exact reason law and medicine have used Latin to specify terms and disorders, because we are no longer arguing what things mean in Latin. It's honestly disgusting how they can feel like they win an argument when they don't engage the actual point and redirect it to something that isn't even relevant to the actual discussion - all the while feeling like they are the intellectual superior. Fake and gay, is what it all is.
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The only way to stop them is to publicly shame them for their ignorance and stupidity. These are shallow people who care a great deal about appearances

Also, I forgot to post the paper from my previous comment titled "Why There Are Exactly Two Sexes". You all will love this paper

 
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Exactly what we've been saying about John Money. Troons and troon glazers look at the whole situation and come to the opposite conclusion. It hinges on believing genderwoo in the first place. Plus, David wasn't "intersex", he had a botched circumcision.

It's all explainable without it. It's not that Money "turned" him into a girl but his internal gender remained solid. It's that he was male the entire time.
 
Not Dr. Evil said:
California State Senator Scott Weiner
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He's in the NY Post today!

Lefty California lawmaker and ‘drag queen advocate’ defends trans wife-beater in LA gym locker room row
Wiener, 55, who is openly gay, is described as “one of the strongest LGBTQ civil rights champions in the nation” on his senate profile.

He’s backed numerous pieces of legislation around the topic, including supporting so-called gender-affirming care for minors, allowing non-binary designations on government IDs and ending the mandatory inclusion of adults who have intercourse with minors on sex-offender registries, arguing that the law “disproportionately targets LGBT young people.”

He also floated the idea of schools “offering Drag Queen 101 as part of the K-12 curriculum.”

Wiener is a regular fixture at San Francisco’s annual Folsom Street Fair kink festival, where he’s been spotted wearing a leather vest and tie.
 
Nynaeve al'Meara said:
Will never forget one time in college where a troon acquaintance sat down with me and some friends at the dining hall to announce completely unprompted that he "started [my] period" while we were in the middle of eating. I really don't know what he expected the response to be and I especially don't want to know what was going on with him that he thought he was menstruating.
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Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago back before I peaked. A TiM friend of mine earnestly told a table of women who had been discussing one of our friends getting diagnosed with endometriosis that trans women also get periods. Although this was a very lib group, we ended up gently explaining that didn’t make much sense, and went over the menstrual cycle with him, and since women’s hormones fluctuate and he was on a steady dose it was unlikely that was the case. I pushed back the hardest because I had just read some stuff about how women who live together’s cycles syncing up is BS, and it was unlikely that he was syncing up with his cis girl friend when cis women don’t even do that.

Honestly, I think a lot of the trans HRT is magic shit banks on general ignorance about biology, especially female biology. If a woman misses her period (the actual blood coming out) something is wrong or she’s preggers. If she’s getting major cramps and pain while missing her period, that’s a warning sign for something like PCOS or endometriosis, not just a bloodless period, and she should get that checked out. A lot of women are very ignorant about their bodies so just accept what a lot of TiMs say with confidence, even if said TiM actually knows jack shit, which I’ve seen in real time before and after peaking.

And reading about HRT, it’s really just begging to give yourself long term endocrine problems, a normal woman with elevated testosterone levels needs to get that checked out, shooting it into her without regard for all the health issues it causes is dumb as fuck, and same for men with estrogen. We already know from the girls who were given shit for precocious puberty or just to stop them from growing “too tall” that this shit has some term issues with bone health and cancer and ton of other stuff.
 
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Exactly what we've been saying about John Money. Troons and troon glazers look at the whole situation and come to the opposite conclusion. It hinges on believing genderwoo in the first place. Plus, David wasn't "intersex", he had a botched circumcision.

It's all explainable without it. It's not that Money "turned" him into a girl but his internal gender remained solid. It's that he was male the entire time.
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Beyond that, the "study" with the Reimers had a sample size of just two (the brother was abused too). That is far too small to draw any conclusions besides "John Money should have gotten the rope" and "the study does nothing to prove gender is a distinct concept from sex at birth".
 
UncleTusky said:
Beyond that, the "study" with the Reimers had a sample size of just two (the brother was abused too). That is far too small to draw any conclusions besides "John Money should have gotten the rope" and "the study does nothing to prove gender is a distinct concept from sex at birth".
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I want to run an experiment now. Give me your child. I'll tar and feather him and tell him he's a chicken. When this absurdity gets revealed to him and he says "I think I should have had a normal childhood instead of what you did to me", I'll publish. Success! My conclusion won't be that I did hideous things to a child for no reason. Nor will it be that of course he's a person and that would have come up eventually.

No, I'll go the troon route! Despite the fact that I turned him into a chicken, he retained knowledge that he was a human! Therefore species is a mental state and obviously you can be born a chicken in a human's body.
 
Not sure if right thread but this was on Vexxed. One thing that amazes me about Reddit is that when it comes to other animals, they perfectly know what male and female is. Couple of examples
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Someone asking the gender of their rat
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and lastly their fish after they thought it was male
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There's a couple more examples of this but it just amazes me how trans subs argue: men can get pregnant too, women can have dicks, women can have balls, men can have periods, gender is ASSIGNED AT BIRTH, SEX IS IRREVELANT, IT'S A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, gender transcends basic biology, etc

Yet when it comes to the sex of other animals, no one plays this bullshit of "It depends on what the animal identifies as". Weird how no one questions why gender should be relevant to humans only and what the point of it would even be if we are all connected by evolution.
 
Jacques1194 said:
Not sure if right thread but this was on Vexxed. One thing that amazes me about Reddit is that when it comes to other animals, they perfectly know what male and female is. Couple of examples
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Someone asking the gender of their rat
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There's a couple more examples of this but it just amazes me how trans subs argue: men can get pregnant too, women can have dicks, women can have balls, men can have periods, gender is ASSIGNED AT BIRTH, SEX IS IRREVELANT, IT'S A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, gender transcends basic biology, etc

Yet when it comes to the sex of other animals, no one plays this bullshit of "It depends on what the animal identifies as". Weird how no one questions why gender should be relevant to humans only and what the point of it would even be if we are all connected by evolution.
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Nothing new, apparently troons admit that the concept of "gender identity" is absurd when applied to animals, but not to humans.

 
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