The mega-strike that could take down Hollywood - Actors like Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda are poised to join the writers on the picket line

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Hollywood's writers have been on strike for two months and soon the actors may join them, swapping the red carpet for the picket lines.

The Screen Actors Guild-American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) contract expires at midnight local time on 12 July, following a deadline extension that delayed the possibility of a mega-strike by almost two weeks.

They would join the Writers Guild of America, which went on strike on 2 May after failing to reach a deal with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), an umbrella group representing studios like Disney, Netflix, Amazon and Apple.

Both SAG-AFTRA and AMPTP have said they will not comment while contract negotiations are ongoing.

It would be the first time that unions representing both writers and actors would strike at the same time since 1960, when future US President Ronald Regan was president of the actors' union.

A third union, the Directors Guild of America, has already negotiated a contract and will not join the strike.

Dozens of productions have already been halted since the writers went on strike, including Stranger Things, Billions and Marvel's Blade.

If there is an actors' strike, there could be even more delays, and some shows may be cancelled altogether.

For audiences, that likely means the next series of your favourite TV show will be delayed, and many shows may disappear forever.

While some international productions will continue, it will be limited, because SAG-AFTRA represents more than 160,000 performers around the world - like writer and actor Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who addressed the strike at the London premiere of the latest Indiana Jones movie.

"I really hope we can get this sorted. Writers are the most important people in this industry, I really believe that," she said.
Like the writers already on strike, actors say that streaming services haven't shared the wealth, even as they have led to an explosion of entertainment content. The never-ending quest for new subscribers is an unsustainable business model, they say, and studio executives are reaping huge salaries while many actors and writers can't make a decent living.

Actors and writers used to make money from re-runs on network TV. They would get a cheque in the post every time a movie or show they worked on was re-broadcast and that allowed actors to survive between projects in the business, which has always been a feast-or-famine job.

But streaming services upended Hollywood, and now actors and writers get little or nothing when someone watches their work on a streaming service, which also traditionally pays less than network TV.

The negotiations are being conducted in secret so it's not clear what might be the sticking points or if a deal is imminent. Members overwhelmingly voted in favour of a strike if a deal cannot be reached.

"If they could replace us, they would have done it many years ago," writer and actor Adam Conover said while picketing outside Netflix.

"Are they going to replace you with reality TV? Or with YouTube stars? Well, they can try," he said, adding that people around the world turn on the TV to watch shows like Stranger Things and sports.

In a surprise move, many of Hollywood's A-list actors signed a letter to their union supporting a strike if they cannot get a "transformative" new contract from studios.

The letter - which has been widely circulated in Los Angeles - was signed by the likes of Meryl Streep, Mark Ruffalo, Jennifer Lawrence and Quinta Brunson - has more than 1,000 signatures now, according to industry publication Deadline.

Both the writers and actors are striking for not only better pay, but for restrictions on using artificial intelligence (AI) in productions, which they say is an "existential" threat.

Actors say AI could create a doomsday scenario where deep fakes and dead actors could be the stars of tomorrow through computer-generated faces and voices.

For many in the business, it's a bleak thought - computer generated moviemaking without a camera crew, actor or writer involved.

Influential musician and artist Kim Gordon, the founder of Sonic Youth and a Screen Actors Guild member, said she'd never consider allowing an AI version of herself.

"It's important to be worried about it," Ms Gordon said while picketing outside Netflix. "But I feel like AI will never replace creativity."

(Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66140336)

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So a bunch of useless cunts go on strike and no one notices, just further confirming their complete lack of contribution to society. Now a bunch more useless cunts join them, and we're supposed to care?
 
I kind of feel like I already have more shit to watch that I haven't seen than I will ever be able to get through. This thing could drag on for years and I doubt I'd notice, at least from that perspective.

Having said that, in a battle between insufferable twats and our corporate media overlords I find it difficult to root for either side. If I thought the corporate overlords would fire all the trannys and tranny-adajecents and hire people actually interested making something worth watching I'd probably give them a nod, but I have no real hope of that.

I guess the best thing to hope for is a long strike with lots of REEEEEEEEEing on Twitter and elsewhere. And we may actually have this, since from what I can tell the biggest issue is NOT AI but residuals on streaming. Which would require the studios to publicly provide real numbers, which since they're probably pretty embarrassing all the streamers have been reluctant to do so.
 
Isn't this like the the 5th writer strike in like 30 years? Feel like if anyone farts they do it. Can't wait until Chat GPT takes over.
 
Barbarella is a great movie. There's nothing political about that at least.
Listen, I'm probably the biggest fan of the movie on these forums - I've had an original movie poster for it from 1968 on my wall for over 30 years - but you can't imagine how offensive I find the claim that it is a great movie. It's a fucking terrible movie.

Next you'll be saying Tank Girl was a great movie. I won't stand for it.
 
Listen, I'm probably the biggest fan of the movie on these forums - I've had an original movie poster for it from 1968 on my wall for over 30 years - but you can't imagine how offensive I find the claim that it is a great movie. It's a fucking terrible movie.

Next you'll be saying Tank Girl was a great movie. I won't stand for it.
It's a great film. I don't know what kind of measuring stick you are using, but I watch films for entertainment. The fact films like this have to gain a cult status instead of prestige through the opinions of snobby critics means nothing to me. Sure, it has camp, but it's intentional camp and used to give it a light hearted fun tone for a sexy space fantasy film. These days, the films of Wes Anderson are praised as genius for intentional camp.
 
I have always been disturbed by the knowledge Lily Tomlin is a dyke. I don't know why.

That is all.
 
Yeah, Peter Cushing unliving corpse was in Rogue One back in 2016 and it wasn't too bad so I figure if they spent the money and focus on that (instead of just hiring black people to replace white people) Disney would have something set for this strike.

Actually that is a great way for Disney to break the strike: just hire some up and coming black actors for everything. What is the rest of Hollywood gonna do? Be racist against them?

Edit: Oh, here it is.

"BREAKING: Hollywood studios proposed contracts that would allow them to scan actors and create AI that would give them the actors' likeness rights forever, per the Verge."

The pipeline is back on the menu boys!
 
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All of hollywood shutting down, oh no. Please. Don't.

I can't wait for the extremely short-attention span consumers to just fuck off and finally finish replacing mass movies with whatever the fuck else those people waste their times on. These sorta things ripple out and fuck with the output for years to come, and none of the major players can afford that. Disney's already down like a billion dollars this year, aren't they? And its not gonna get better.
 
One day you’ll all look at the world us actors created and say, “wow, good going FAG. You really made the world a better place, didn’t ya, FAG?”
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Actually that is a great way for Disney to break the strike: just hire some up and coming black actors for everything. What is the rest of Hollywood gonna do? Be racist against them?
Everyone is anti-racist and progressive right up until it threatens their paycheck. Also as we've already seen this past year, hiring brave slay-queen POC actors doesn't mean your movie is going to make money.
 
oh no stop don't
I love how surprised an industry of narcissists is going to be when the normie response is "jump, fuckers".
 

‘House of the Dragon’ Can Continue Filming in U.K. Amid SAG-AFTRA Strike Due to Local Union Rules​


House of the Dragoncan continue filming in the U.K. despite the SAG-AFTRA actors strike, Variety can reveal.

Just as the U.S. actors union announced a strike Thursday due to its inability to ink a new deal with the AMPTP, sources confirmed that production is planned to proceed as scheduled on the second season of the “Game of Thrones” prequel.

The HBO series’ cast is composed of primarily U.K. actors who are working under contracts governed by the local union, Equity. As such, the series is technically allowed to continue filming because Equity members aren’t legally allowed to strike in solidarity with the U.S. union.




Equity shared its actors strike guidance with its 47,000 members on Thursday, shortly before the strike was officially declared by SAG-AFTRA, stating: “Equity U.K. will support SAG-AFTRA and its members by all lawful means.”



“A performer joining the strike (or refusing to cross a picket line) in the U.K. will have no protection against being dismissed or sued for breach of contract by the producer or the engager. Likewise, if Equity encourages anyone to join the strike or not cross a picket line, Equity itself will be acting unlawfully and hence liable for damages or an injunction,” Equity said in its guidance to members.

Sources indicate that the U.K.’s strict union laws have prevented an extensive show of solidarity from Equity, which can’t legally call a strike to support SAG-AFTRA due to restrictive British legislation.

Equity posited a number of scenarios under which actors on “House of the Dragon” can continue to work. The guidance for actors who are Equity members but not SAG-AFTRA members who are working in the U.K. on an Equity contract for a U.S. producer is that they continue to work as they have no protection from being dismissed or sued by the producer. It is the same guidance for SAG-AFTRA members who are not Equity members in a similar production. For SAG-AFTRA members on an Equity contract under Global Rule 1, which states that a SAG-AFTRA member cannot work on any project, anywhere in the world, that is not covered under a SAG-AFTRA agreement, the guidance is again to continue working.

The guidance for more actors in complicated scenarios is to seek advice from SAG-AFTRA.

The London-headquartered org is the 12th largest trade union in the U.K., and represents actors, singers, dancers, designers, directors, stage managers and voice artists, among others. As the profile of British talent has grown in Hollywood over the last decade, so too has Equity’s power.



Based on author George R.R. Martin’s “Game of Thrones” book “Fire & Blood,” “House of the Dragon” has been filming its second season at Warner Bros.’ Leavesden Studios since April 11.

Led by showrunner Ryan Condal, the HBO drama series picked up eight primetime Emmy nominations Wednesday. The noms were announced just hours before the clock ran out on SAG-AFTRA’s contract with the AMPTP.

Under strike rules, WGA members working internationally have had to stop work on any project that falls within the union’s jurisdiction if there’s active writing work taking place. As such, a number of U.S. projects filming in the U.K. were affected by the strike. Luckily for HBO, completed scripts on “House of the Dragon” have allowed production to keep going.
 
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