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Dante Alighieri said:
Went to a local game store I hadn't noticed before, why is everything so goddamn expensive?
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Lotta folks crying about tariffs for stuff printed and distributed in the US. In my experience, it's people with TDS who raised prices "anticipating" Trump Make Economy Bad and then refusing to lower them because they'd then have to admit that that didn't happen.

But that's just my experience, (formerly) buying from small outfits having crashouts on Twitter then fleeing to trannysky when their customers didn't buy it.
 
Imperial Citizen said:
I think the wiping out of Karotechia was fine because their kind of neo-nazism was very much a 90s thing.
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Me too. The whole concept smelled like a rather boring power fantasy to have you reenact what your granddad or Mossad did IRL.
AnOminous said:
Do sane people even pay attention to rpg.net? It may be the one gaming site with moderation even more batshit insane than RetardEra.
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MazonLabs Recruitment Rep said:
Maybe I'm just old, but FUCK these guys make it hard to be a liberal.
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The hobby has been invaded by too many people who think like them. The StartPlaying Rent-a-DM site (my favorite zoo BTW) has hundreds of them listing pronouns, neopronouns, physical or mental disability, ethnicity, sexuality, gender, used safety tools, Pride flags, etc. in their bios and all the trigger warnings for their games. I remember counting 65 (!) of the latter under an advertised, official CoC campaign and it spoiled most of the story. Maybe I'm the one who's gotten too old but no sane horror author wants their readers to feel safe while reading their works or spoil every part. The same applies to horror DMs. Or any DM really. And you need to find a different hobby or the correct meds if you can't stomach make believe.
 
Manly_Brony said:
The hobby has been invaded by too many people who think like them. The StartPlaying Rent-a-DM site (my favorite zoo BTW) has hundreds of them listing pronouns, neopronouns, physical or mental disability, ethnicity, sexuality, gender, used safety tools, Pride flags, etc. in their bios and all the trigger warnings for their games. I remember counting 65 (!) of the latter under an advertised, official CoC campaign and it spoiled most of the story. Maybe I'm the one who's gotten too old but no sane horror author wants their readers to feel safe while reading their works or spoil every part. The same applies to horror DMs. Or any DM really. And you need to find a different hobby or the correct meds if you can't stomach make believe.
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I imagine it was something like this:
 
Manly_Brony said:
Saw a tranny Jew on that site with problem glasses, a pink beard, braids, 3 sets of neopronouns and 18 ridiculous names you can call him. Like if San Francisco became a person.
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Only way he could've looked more like the physical manifestation San Fran, is if he was physically rotting akin to The Walking Dead and had wokeshit tattoos covering his entire body.

EDIT: Also, probably covered in human shit, for good measure.
 
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Scream Aim Fire said:
EDIT: This is preaching to the choir here, but... I do honestly hate how 5e (particularly 5.5e/DNDOne) was designed more to cater to woketards and similar. It's been making me rather hesitant on making more campaigns and characters for it, as of right now at least; there's plenty of fun ideas to be had if you're willing to apply a bit of brainpower (raiding the Radiant Citadel is always a blast), but the way everything is written these days isn't the best. Like, I'm currently trying to get a character made for a annual large-scale 5e campaign in a couple of months, and my two choices for a race are either a Tabaxi (which are boring) or a Tiefling (which I have a ton of ideas for, but...).

EDIT 2: Anyone got advice?
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't have tons of fun playing 5e still because ultimately I'm playing with people who are fun to play with. Despite all its problems, 5e still facilitates fun experiences. I think you run into problems if you're relying on nuContent because they seem incapable of making something that doesn't feel contrived or neutered or watered down politically in some way or another, or at least in a way that doesn't immediately rip you out of the immersion.

It is not a coincidence that the most fun we've been having is using shit from 2nd and 3.5 edition or is just homebrew. That said, I think more recent books like Storm King's Thunder and Curse of Strahd are mostly pretty good for what they are but again, all this stuff lives and dies on your group and if you have a shitty group you're going to have a shitty time no matter how good or poor your source material is (game system or otherwise).
 
Brain Problems said:
I'd be lying if I said I didn't have tons of fun playing 5e still because ultimately I'm playing with people who are fun to play with. Despite all its problems, 5e still facilitates fun experiences. I think you run into problems if you're relying on nuContent because they seem incapable of making something that doesn't feel contrived or neutered or watered down politically in some way or another, or at least in a way that doesn't immediately rip you out of the immersion.

It is not a coincidence that the most fun we've been having is using shit from 2nd and 3.5 edition or is just homebrew. That said, I think more recent books like Storm King's Thunder and Curse of Strahd are mostly pretty good for what they are but again, all this stuff lives and dies on your group and if you have a shitty group you're going to have a shitty time no matter how good or poor your source material is (game system or otherwise).
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You cover the duality of edition wars.

On one hand, edition wars are dumb because if you have the right group of people any system is fun. You don't really need dice with the right group of people but its hard, without an external arbiter, to set a level of challenge.

On the other hand, edition wars are completely accurate because of the supporting material and what sort of experiences that edition fosters.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
I really need to get back into CoC sometime; was always a fan of it, and the wider Cthulhu Mythos in general. Once I'm done with DND 5e, it's on my list.

EDIT: This is preaching to the choir here, but... I do honestly hate how 5e (particularly 5.5e/DNDOne) was designed more to cater to woketards and similar. It's been making me rather hesitant on making more campaigns and characters for it, as of right now at least; there's plenty of fun ideas to be had if you're willing to apply a bit of brainpower (raiding the Radiant Citadel is always a blast), but the way everything is written these days isn't the best. Like, I'm currently trying to get a character made for a annual large-scale 5e campaign in a couple of months, and my two choices for a race are either a Tabaxi (which are boring) or a Tiefling (which I have a ton of ideas for, but...).

EDIT 2: Anyone got advice?
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Sandy Petersen wrote a Cthulhu Mythos supplement for 5e which you could spice things up with. I would also try Glenn Welch's free 5e Mystara supplement if you're looking for a time tested but relatively unknown setting and he has a ton of lore videos on his YT channel.

I'm not much of a DnD player because my obsessive friends live far away and refuse to play online but I'd choose the Tabaxi and try to salvage it. Lots of anthropomorphic felines in cartoons, comics, myths, other TTRPGs and horror movies to steal from. I was actually fixing to watch The Cat Creature tonight. The last character I played was a cleric of Abbathor, the Dwarven god of greed. Too bad it was a homebrew setting and half of my backstory had to be tossed out.
 
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Brain Problems said:
I'd be lying if I said I didn't have tons of fun playing 5e still because ultimately I'm playing with people who are fun to play with. Despite all its problems, 5e still facilitates fun experiences. I think you run into problems if you're relying on nuContent because they seem incapable of making something that doesn't feel contrived or neutered or watered down politically in some way or another, or at least in a way that doesn't immediately rip you out of the immersion.
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Trust me, my group is fun as shit to play with, we're all IRL friends that love to mess with each other and stuff. My gripe with current year 5e is how it's pushing for more "safe space" shit for trannies and such, and while it's genuinely fun taking fagshit and rewriting it, it gets annoying at points. Especially with how "with us or against us" 5e is these days with the DND community; you're either a "outdated cishet", or a "Critical Roll faggot", and it's difficult to find a middle ground at points. Whole thing's turned into a glorified pissing contest between two groups of retards, honestly.

Semi-related tangent, I've never even watched Critical Roll; only thing I know about it are that it apparently has fags in it.


Brain Problems said:
It is not a coincidence that the most fun we've been having is using shit from 2nd and 3.5 edition or is just homebrew. That said, I think more recent books like Storm King's Thunder and Curse of Strahd are mostly pretty good for what they are but again, all this stuff lives and dies on your group and if you have a shitty group you're going to have a shitty time no matter how good or poor your source material is (game system or otherwise).
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I prefer 3e's Dark Sun (because post-apocalypse) or D20 Modern/Urban Arcana (because urban fantasy) myself; also a bit of 4e, since that's where I started at. Only reason why I'm sticking with 5e at all at this point is because I've got plenty of shit to do with it at this point, and admittedly because I do somewhat enjoy the tears of the pissbabies on either side.

Manly_Brony said:
Sandy Petersen wrote a Cthulhu Mythos supplement for 5e which you could spice things up with. I would also try Glenn Welch's free 5e Mystara supplement if you're looking for a time tested but relatively unknown setting and he has a ton of lore videos on his YT channel.
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I'll need to check out that Cthulhu supplement sometime; got a few Lovecraft/Cosmic Horror plots I'd like to run when I get the chance. Funnily enough, Welch's take on the Radiant Citadel was actually one of the bigger influences on my anti-RC stories; small world, huh?

Manly_Brony said:
I'm not much of a DnD player because my obsessive friends live far away and refuse to play online but I'd choose the Tabaxi and try to salvage it. Lots of anthropomorphic felines in cartoons, comics, myths, other TTRPGs and horror movies to steal from. I was actually fixing to watch The Cat Creature tonight. The last character I played was a cleric of Abbathor, the Dwarven god of greed. Too bad it was a homebrew setting and half of my backstory had to be tossed out.
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I'll try to keep the Tabaxi suggestion in mind. The annual campaign I mentioned restricts races to mostly core races, with a few others like Warforged or Tabaxi; my friend group has told me, to my face, that I'm probably one of the few people that plays a monster race as an actual monster and not someone's glorified fursona, so that's what I was going with here. I was going to run a Dragonborn, but... let's just say I know a scalie IRL. That, and 5e Dragonborn really don't have much going for them.

Concerning Tabaxi and Tieflings:

For the cats, I've actually seen a rather large chunk of anti-woke/right-wing feline characters in fiction, and I do have a few ideas in mind for them. It's just that I don't have much interest in them outside of political jokes; comparing trannies to hyenas and rats is fun for a few campaigns, but it can get stale after a while. There are plenty of catfolk characters in fiction that I could take inspiration from, but... I dunno, I think I've just had to deal with furfaggots way too much on my end to properly think about it just yet. Still, they're a solid "safe" option, and I'll be happy to run one if the Tiefling doesn't work out.

Meanwhile, the "Tiefniggers" as they're called here actually have quite a bit going for them; aside from taking symbols of degeneracy and turning them into anti-woke characters, I've had some genuine fun taking the whole "half-demon" connection and developing it. Aside from the "cursed blood" bit being an opportunity to flesh out the lore of demons and such in DND, I've also had a few laugh riots using it as an excuse to go murderhobo on some fags; sometimes, it's just fun to play a monster, especially when it's the "based" option like the Dark Urge. All that, and the updated lore bits from the 2024 PHB means that you can make a proper fiend character now, instead of someone's DeviantArt OC.

Still, Tieflings do have a negative reputation among some players for a reason, and the 2024 PHB's original version of them didn't help.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
My gripe with current year 5e is how it's pushing for more "safe space" shit for trannies and such, and while it's genuinely fun taking fagshit and rewriting it, it gets annoying at points.
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I mean this genuinely: I don't really care if Hasbro is trying to shove troons and nogs into my tabletop games (I could sperg about how they massacred my Ravenloft boy but I will not) - as long as they do not stink up my table and I don't give them a dime. I can see the arguments for not giving them attention via even touching their stuff but that feels like a path toward not doing anything at risk of abstractly supporting woke nonsense on a sub-atomic level.

You've got a great group, I wouldn't sweat the embarrassing stuff from Current Year if you don't have some nose-ring kermit voiced fucker trying to shoehorn it in. I think this stuff may be worse if you are unfortunate enough to have to find groups randomly via Facebook or whatever local hellhole website your country/region uses (Craigslist/Kijiji/SlavSwap).
 
Manly_Brony said:
time tested but relatively unknown setting and he has a ton of lore videos on his YT channel.
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Whelch"s videos are pretty comfy. Also he gets right to the subject matter without padding the content for run time. It's all digestible info in a 10 minute time frame.
Mystara was pretty damn big in its heyday though. You had the Basic line running up into 2e. The Gazateers were good stuff. On top of that it had very consistent support through Dragon magazine. It really picked up support at the launch of the whole Princess Arc era. They'd sprinkle the articles with a new class or 2 + class variants.
It was very big in its time.
Some of my fondest DMing memories was running Becmi/Mystara on the side in the mid-late 90s for a gaggle of state home foster kids. Shit got gonzo and 100% off the rails real fast.
 
Brain Problems said:
I don't really care if Hasbro is trying to shove troons and nogs into my tabletop games (I could sperg about how they massacred my Ravenloft boy but I will not) - as long as they do not stink up my table and I don't give them a dime. I can see the arguments for not giving them attention via even touching their stuff but that feels like a path toward not doing anything at risk of abstractly supporting woke nonsense on a sub-atomic level.
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I don't have the time to do another full rage post on it, but
There is a difference between a purity spiral and the literal troon, nigger, and gender nonsense injected to 5e and trying to force it and the critards it attracts from ruining gaming spaces.

I made a post in the community watch thread about the MP3 paradox and that by making your product available for free you attract the widest audience and by simply having easy channels for monetization you can convert that audience into income. By inducting people to D&D and 5e specifically you aid WotC in that effort and subsidize ruining the hobbyspace for everyone who actually enjoys it.

that said I acknowledge the fact that trying to rage against 5e is like trying battle the ocean tide.

But cheifly: Do not suffer the furry to live
 
Rapier Ape said:
Mystara was pretty damn big in its heyday though
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It was the primary setting until the Forgotten Realms shoved it aside was it not? I swear that I've never heard of it until I started watching Mr. Welch's channel. The TSR novels, video games and rulebooks I read, played or saw before switching to historical and semi-historical TTRPGs were for Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Planescape and Ravenloft. I only heard about Birthright which would've interested me but I bought Ars Magica by then.
Scream Aim Fire said:
There are plenty of catfolk characters in fiction that I could take inspiration from, but... I dunno, I think I've just had to deal with furfaggots way too much on my end to properly think about it just yet.
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I know that feeling. There was a time when I detested all kinds of Elves.
 
Rapier Ape said:
Whelch"s videos are pretty comfy. Also he gets right to the subject matter without padding the content for run time. It's all digestible info in a 10 minute time frame.
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For the record, that is the same Mr. Welch of the legendary "X Things Mr. Welch is No Longer Allowed to Do in an RPG" livejournal posts from back in the early 2000s. The man's got a pedigree (if not a working command of video editing)
 
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