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Pickle Man said:
Some more Leffen drama, he dropping out of Big House due to him getting *death threats*


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Apparently Leffen deleted this tweet before announcing that he was going to drop out of TBH.

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Even through Hax$ apologize to him.

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My opinion is that Leffen is just being a emo dsp bitch again.
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Exhibit #9219859867534921713715 of Leffen being a raging homosexual.
 
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Pickle Man said:
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The absurd irony is that ALL of the "bad luck and circumstances" that he is talking about has been entirely his fault, but this entitled faggot and this troon dick sucking community continue to excuse and even enable his behavior. Leffen continuing to perpetuate his bullshit victim complex is geting on my last damn nerve.

He really deserves a thread of his own on here that details exactly all the fucking horse shit hes done over the years that's not evidence.zip 2 levels of retarded.
 
Pickle Man said:

Nintendo drop some new rules for smash tournaments. Salt and tardrage already started on twitter.
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Community Tournaments may not falsely imply Nintendo is associated with, sponsoring or otherwise affiliated with the event, and may not be presented as “official” or “endorsed” by Nintendo.

LOL Nintendo knows the smash community is a bunch of manhchildren who like children and wants nothing to do with them. Glad they said this back in 2020 and reinforced it again in these guidelines. I'm surprised none of the guidelines say "All participants must take a shower before entering a lobby."
 
nayeon said:
The absurd irony is that ALL of the "bad luck and circumstances" that he is talking about has been entirely his fault, but this entitled faggot and this troon dick sucking community continue to excuse and even enable his behavior. Leffen continuing to perpetuate his bullshit victim complex is geting on my last damn nerve.

He really deserves a thread of his own on here that details exactly all the fucking horse shit hes done over the years that's not evidence.zip 2 levels of retarded.
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Of all of Leffins many faggy wrongs him courting the troon comuninity isn't one of them, they're literally the only shield he has left if they abandoned him he'd be forced to get a real job and lets face it even fast food wouldn't hire him with his record.

Leffen is the only human being I've seen that the Troon community is a net positive for, that's how much of a slimy fuck he is.
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
The rules seem fine but the only one I have issue with is the participants numbers are capped. Have irl events ever reached 200 irl for smash? In fact when has an online event ever reached 300 players?
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The point is not that it will ever be that big but a just in case so that a tournament never gets out of hand and they do not have make rules on the fly
 
The only enforcement Nintendo could realistically have over large events is shutting down Twitch streams. I'm hoping this means we will be free to return to commentary that is just black people screaming.
 
JUSTCHILLIN said:
The only enforcement Nintendo could realistically have over large events is shutting down Twitch streams. I'm hoping this means we will be free to return to commentary that is just black people screaming.
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Nobody has ever brought as much energy into commentary as HomeMadeWaffles in the late 2000s-early 2010s
 
Pickle Man said:

Nintendo drop some new rules for smash tournaments. Salt and tardrage already started on twitter.
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Big Boss Nigger said:
Community Tournaments may not falsely imply Nintendo is associated with, sponsoring or otherwise affiliated with the event, and may not be presented as “official” or “endorsed” by Nintendo.

LOL Nintendo knows the smash community is a bunch of manhchildren who like children and wants nothing to do with them. Glad they said this back in 2020 and reinforced it again in these guidelines. I'm surprised none of the guidelines say "All participants must take a shower before entering a lobby."
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If anything, I’m willing to bet that these rules will only be followed by a select few, but then ignored when the latest sex pest happening in this community will make it impossible to wonder if any gaming will get done when not associated with troon/gay/underage sex behavior.
 
Pickle Man said:

Nintendo drop some new rules for smash tournaments. Salt and tardrage already started on twitter.
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It's pretty stifling for people trying to grow a tournament scene (which Nintendo clearly does not want to do).

Not able to fundraise more than $20/$15 per person, a limit on prizes ($5,000 max) and prize pools ($10,000 per entire year). Can't be run for a profit, can't have sponsors and can't run more than 200 people per day.

It also specifically outlines that "official" games launched - which means no Project M, and no online tournaments for games that don't have "official" online support (aka Smash Melee).
 
One of these days the Smash Community will learn what the EULA is and to stop ignoring it.
Tanner Glass said:
It's pretty stifling for people trying to grow a tournament scene (which Nintendo clearly does not want to do).
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Good. Why would Nintendo want to run a scene filled with literal degenerate pedos?
Tanner Glass said:
Not able to fundraise more than $20/$15 per person, a limit on prizes ($5,000 max) and prize pools ($10,000 per entire year). Can't be run for a profit, can't have sponsors and can't run more than 200 people per day.
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Well yeah, they don’t want you making money off their games. They want you doing this for fun not profit.
Tanner Glass said:
It also specifically outlines that "official" games launched - which means no Project M, and no online tournaments for games that don't have "official" online support (aka Smash Melee).
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I mean yeah, why would they support non official games and games that they no longer sell and haven’t been altered by them? It makes sense that you can only play official games thst people can obtain first hand.
 
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Tanner Glass said:
It's pretty stifling for people trying to grow a tournament scene (which Nintendo clearly does not want to do).

Not able to fundraise more than $20/$15 per person, a limit on prizes ($5,000 max) and prize pools ($10,000 per entire year). Can't be run for a profit, can't have sponsors and can't run more than 200 people per day.

It also specifically outlines that "official" games launched - which means no Project M, and no online tournaments for games that don't have "official" online support (aka Smash Melee).
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I'm usually for freedom of doing whatever for these kinds of things, but its clear they want to distance themselves from the Smash community as a whole (rightly so), and remove incentives for adults to compete (Low prize pool keeping it in kid range for the most part). Forcing that "Nintendo is not affiliated with this tournament" banner for ALL tournaments and advertising is the cherry on top.

Smash community has only themselves to blame. Can't blame them for going nuclear on distancing themselves from a degenerate, toxic, pedo community who recently have been absolutely relentlessly bullying children who play a character they don't like on twitter...Couldn't have happened to a more deserving community.
 
Beard_Chan said:
and remove incentives for adults to compete (Low prize pool keeping it in kid range for the most part).
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Am I the only that thinks 10k over a 12 month period is fine? That’s absolutely enough to cover several tournaments a year with 1k for the top 3 for each event. Which should not only cover travel and board but also give you a nice cash prize. And that’s just one event.

1 evrnt 3 times at 1k for the top 3 plus leftover

And there will be other people putting on events. So if they keep going to events throughout the year they’ll rack up money

That is to say nothing of online events where the cost to the player is nothing so the prizes can be way bigger

4k for a dude organising a discord call seems nice.

…hell i had not even seen the bit where for IRL they can charge in person spectators. Organisers make bank.

That’s to say nothing of online events that will have donos involved.

Or the fact that most players make money off streaming the game.

They really have no reason to bitch if they are good.
Beard_Chan said:
Forcing that "Nintendo is not affiliated with this tournament" banner for ALL tournaments and advertising is the cherry on top.
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My favorite is limmiting the size of events. Everyone’s mad at that and I’m just like ‘it’s the one move that was done not to punish shit adults what is your problem?’ Tournaments with 100s of people are an absolute nightmare to control. Greatly capping the number of people just makes it way more managable. They are actually trying to help deal with the issues everyone alwsys says there are by their being to many people.
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who recently have been absolutely relentlessly bullying children who play a character they don't like on twitter...
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You just know the Nintendo people that get the job of social media are just happily going about their day until they are asked to check on Smash. And then the swearing that results can be heard all throughout the office.
 
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I'll never forget the sheer schzio-fueled absurdity of Eviderence2.zip.

Leffen is a totalitarian monster worse than Hitler, and his actions are worse than rape. He blocks people on Twitter, and blocking people on Twitter deserves to be illegal. It's just like that scene in Death Note.

EDIT: I just looked up the backstory behind it and now I'm sad ):
 
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6MillionCoofs said:
That is to say nothing of online events where the cost to the player is nothing so the prizes can be way bigger

4k for a dude organising a discord call seems nice.

…hell i had not even seen the bit where for IRL they can charge in person spectators. Organisers make bank.
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Online tournies fall under this EULA - so they're supposed to make nothing. They are only allowed to fundraise for prize pools and venue fees and that's it.

$10,000 / year is fine for your normal small tournament organizers, but it's a huge barrier for those same small TOs to get to become large TOs; it's Nintendo gatekeeping super hard to make sure there isn't a "pro circuit".

Which is fine - they don't want one.

6MillionCoofs said:
I mean yeah, why would they support non official games and games that they no longer sell and haven’t been altered by them? It makes sense that you can only play official games thst people can obtain first hand.
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They don't want to and it's fine, I was just outlining the EULA changes.

Just let Melee die already.
 
What legal leg does Nintendo have to stand on, imposing these rules on independent tournament organizers? I get enforcing people saying they're not officially affiliated with Nintendo, that seems straightforward and legal. But sending your lawyers out to random organizers that have literally nothing to do with Nintendo, by their own demand, to shut people down for giving away too many prizes? There's no way that's legally enforcable, not outside of Japan. It'd be like shutting down SmashBoards because they have advertisers.
 
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