💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

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DanteAlighieri said:
I just want to grill in peace, but they keep wanting to control more and more of my life. They'll get what they deserve.

They can't even get CHAZ to work lmao.
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Pointless Pedant said:
Stonetoss himself would get banned at once for his pro-Hitler and pro-PRC nonsense. Weirdly for a white nationalist he seems somewhat tolerant of the PRC, to the point of barely mocking them at all.
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...you realize I was being ironic, right?
 
Pointless Pedant said:
Stonetoss himself would get banned at once for his pro-Hitler and pro-PRC nonsense. Weirdly for a white nationalist he seems somewhat tolerant of the PRC, to the point of barely mocking them at all.
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Probably because most White Nationalists don't have a strong opinion one way or another about what goes on in the rest of the world, they're more concerned about their immediate government. Most of them wouldn't even give a shit about Israel if it was out of Western politics altogether, they tend to have opinons insofar as America is forced to be involved like with Iran or Syria. "Just keep that Chinese bullshit over there and fuck off" is a pretty solid Fascist stance and you can swap in most countries there.
The reason most Libertarians end up this far Right is simply because they know people will never stop treading on them if they're just smoking weed and growing potatoes innawoods, but deep down that American not-giving-a-shit is still there.
 
Rekkington said:
Probably because most White Nationalists don't have a strong opinion one way or another about what goes on in the rest of the world, they're more concerned about their immediate government. Most of them wouldn't even give a shit about Israel if it was out of Western politics altogether, they tend to have opinons insofar as America is forced to be involved like with Iran or Syria. "Just keep that Chinese bullshit over there and fuck off" is a pretty solid Fascist stance and you can swap in most countries there.
The reason most Libertarians end up this far Right is simply because they know people will never stop treading on them if they're just smoking weed and growing potatoes innawoods, but deep down that American not-giving-a-shit is still there.
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China will clearly not leave people like Stonetoss alone though. They want world domination and will certainly try to tread on him if they can. They already own some shares in the kind of websites who are banning conservatives, Reddit most notably. There is absolutely no logical progression from libertarianism to being fine with the CCP, which makes me think he never was very libertarian at all and just realises that being an open supporter of autocracy doesn't go over very well with the broader conservative audience.

Incidentally this is also why libertarianism doesn't work. Since the rest of the world isn't libertarian, people taking these attitudes of not caring about rival powers, along with lacking any kind of national armed forces paid by taxes, would just result in the libertarian "country" being taken over by someone else.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
China will clearly not leave people like Stonetoss alone though. They want world domination and will certainly try to tread on him if they can. They already own some shares in the kind of websites who are banning conservatives, Reddit most notably. There is absolutely no logical progression from libertarianism to being fine with the CCP, which makes me think he never was very libertarian at all and just realises that being an open supporter of autocracy doesn't go over very well with the broader conservative audience.

Incidentally this is also why libertarianism doesn't work. Since the rest of the world isn't libertarian, people taking these attitudes of not caring about rival powers, along with lacking any kind of national armed forces paid by taxes, would just result in the libertarian "country" being taken over by someone else.
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He like most people don't give a shit about CCP until it's for defensive purposes. Nobody cares about what any country does until it has effects on them, which is actually where nationalism would help you and where liberalism will spell death 100% of the time since it is expansionist and universalizing by nature. From a nationalist perspective there is no argument against a defensive military, economic protectionism, and internal sovereignty when it comes to technological production. So anything short of an actual ground war or military conflict would have less of an effect overall, and TikTok being a popular spy tool would be a non-issue.
It's actually extremely easy to switch from Libertarinaism to Nationalism when it comes down to foreign influence and internal subversion, in the sense that internal libertarianism is something to work for and in the interim one needs a statist solution to solve these other problems. This is unique to Americans since the libertarian system looms very large in their psyche and is a destination for many of them, but every libertarian smacked up against the wall of "you will never be left alone."
 
Rekkington said:
He like most people don't give a shit about CCP until it's for defensive purposes. Nobody cares about what any country does until it has effects on them, which is actually where nationalism would help you and where liberalism will spell death 100% of the time since it is expansionist and universalizing by nature. From a nationalist perspective there is no argument against a defensive military, economic protectionism, and internal sovereignty when it comes to technological production. So anything short of an actual ground war or military conflict would have less of an effect overall, and TikTok being a popular spy tool would be a non-issue.
It's actually extremely easy to switch from Libertarinaism to Nationalism when it comes down to foreign influence and internal subversion, in the sense that internal libertarianism is something to work for and in the interim one needs a statist solution to solve these other problems. This is unique to Americans since the libertarian system looms very large in their psyche and is a destination for many of them, but every libertarian smacked up against the wall of "you will never be left alone."
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That's the issue, though. He doesn't really seem to mock the CCP very much at all even though they must be opposed from a purely defensive perspective. He's even made some vaguely pro-CCP comments before around the Hong Kong protests, as if he doesn't realise what's happening. He just goes on and on and on about (((joos))) while pretty much ignoring the rise of a rival power that is already exerting influence on the social media platforms he uses to get his message out. Of course Israel also have influence through AIPAC but it's like there's a massive blind spot in his whole worldview.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
That's the issue, though. He doesn't really seem to mock the CCP very much at all even though they must be opposed from a purely defensive perspective. He's even made some vaguely pro-CCP comments before around the Hong Kong protests, as if he doesn't realise what's happening. He just goes on and on and on about (((joos))) while pretty much ignoring the rise of a rival power that is already exerting influence on the social media platforms he uses to get his message out. Of course Israel also have influence through AIPAC but it's like there's a massive blind spot in his whole worldview.
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Would it make a difference if someone were to tell him that the Chinese are frequently called the Jews of Asia?
 
Pointless Pedant said:
That's the issue, though. He doesn't really seem to mock the CCP very much at all even though they must be opposed from a purely defensive perspective. He's even made some vaguely pro-CCP comments before around the Hong Kong protests, as if he doesn't realise what's happening. He just goes on and on and on about (((joos))) while pretty much ignoring the rise of a rival power that is already exerting influence on the social media platforms he uses to get his message out. Of course Israel also have influence through AIPAC but it's like there's a massive blind spot in his whole worldview.
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We'd literally be better off if China invaded and set up a puppet government at this point.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
That's the issue, though. He doesn't really seem to mock the CCP very much at all even though they must be opposed from a purely defensive perspective. He's even made some vaguely pro-CCP comments before around the Hong Kong protests, as if he doesn't realise what's happening. He just goes on and on and on about (((joos))) while pretty much ignoring the rise of a rival power that is already exerting influence on the social media platforms he uses to get his message out. Of course Israel also have influence through AIPAC but it's like there's a massive blind spot in his whole worldview.
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The basis of Stonetoss humor is: the N-word, (((jews))) are bad, MAGA good, Trump cuck, degeneracy towards sexes...

I like his art style, and he does make a few good points, but overall his community can be intolerant and some jokes don't hit.
 
The Last Stand said:
The basis of Stonetoss humor is: the N-word, (((jews))) are bad, MAGA good, Trump cuck, degeneracy towards sexes...

I like his art style, and he does make a few good points, but overall his community can be intolerant and some jokes don't hit.
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It's basically /Pol/ as a comic. What are /Pol/'s views on China though? I'd imagine they're very negative given they're not white and nominally communist, though I recall Andrew Anglin bizarrely liked them.
 
yoshitsune said:
No you wouldn't lmao, it'd be the same time as having your balls in a vise grip by a bunch of jews, but this time there's a billion of them rather than just a few million.
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You're always going to be ruled one way or the other. I think you're going to be quite surprised by the coming changes to our civilization, and how living here will compare with living in China.
 
Rekkington said:
He depicts Trump fans as naive saps which is why the last comic had them beaten to death, way to have a bad read on the simplest comics in existence.
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Stop making The Last Stand defend Trump, Trump supporters, and Stonetoss. I'm sure he's physically hurting.
 
The base of ST art is that is simple, which is the best way of humor as it just slaps you in the face.

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It's funny because it' all the opposite of lefty PC "acshually" humour.
 
He's funnier than long winded left wing comic artists, but his worldview is just regurgitated /pol/ jokes.
 
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