💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

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UncleMoeLester said:
I thought communism was about turning everyone into trannies
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Real communism would send the trannies to the gulags before anything else.

Real™ Communism is that made up illusion all these SJW morons have created in which everybody and their differences will be equally accepted.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Real communism would send the trannies to the gulags before anything else.

Real™ Communism is that made up illusion all these SJW morons have created in which everybody and their differences will be equally accepted.
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nah didnt you read marx or stalin? they want to round up the gamer americans and turn them gay
but yeah its annoying how tankies ignore how awful the soviet union was tbh,
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
Fans calling people "bugmen" in these circumstances is hilarious; a former anarcho-capitalist's fans denounce their enemies for being obsessed with consumerism, in a manner comparable to Julius Evola, who hated capitalism.
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Supporting the PRC is literally being a bugman and wanting humanity to be a homogenized insect hive of conformity.
 
Supporting the PRC is literally being a bugman
Pointless Pedant said:
You could have just said communism.
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Authoritarian regimes run together eventually and whatever their purported ideology their real purpose is just more authoritarianism.
 
AnOminous said:
Supporting the PRC is literally being a bugman


Authoritarian regimes run together eventually and whatever their purported ideology their real purpose is just more authoritarianism.
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That was why communism never worked. The transitional, temporary dictatorship of the proletariat always turned out to be neither transitional nor temporary. There's also the fact that the communist utopia probably wouldn't have even worked anyway but we never actually got to that stage to find out.
 
If a system requires all variables to be in their favor 100% of the time like communism does, then it's not a system that can work. A system needs to be able to function under some sort of stress or dysfunction because you're not going to be at 100% perfection for centuries. If you're saying "oh communism can work we just need the RIGHT people", any type of ruling system can work if you just have the right people in charge including a Monarchy. There's been many well liked benevolent kings, there's actually been far more successful and prosperous monarchies ruling a place than there have been communist countries.

So it's like you have more of a chance of Turkey and it's leadership re-instating some type of feudalism(due to his rule now becoming president for life and how Turkey is generally run) than you do communism actually taking hold of something and working.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
That was why communism never worked. The transitional, temporary dictatorship of the proletariat always turned out to be neither transitional nor temporary.
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Nor was it ever of the proletariat, itself a mythical noble class much as the bourgeoisie are a mythical class of villains. Ask the kulaks how much their actual hard work was worth.
 
Marissa Moira said:
If a system requires all variables to be in their favor 100% of the time like communism does, then it's not a system that can work. A system needs to be able to function under some sort of stress or dysfunction because you're not going to be at 100% perfection for centuries. If you're saying "oh communism can work we just need the RIGHT people", any type of ruling system can work if you just have the right people in charge including a Monarchy. There's been many well liked benevolent kings, there's actually been far more successful and prosperous monarchies ruling a place than there have been communist countries.

So it's like you have more of a chance of Turkey and it's leadership re-instating some type of feudalism(due to his rule now becoming president for life and how Turkey is generally run) than you do communism actually taking hold of something and working.
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I wouldn't go that far. Instating a system run by rural hereditary land owners with tenant farmers in an industrialised country is about as preposterous as communism. Even the Ottomans weren't feudal; common timariots got granted non-hereditary plots of land for their military service, and the empire was changing socially towards a more nationalist state at the end under the Young Turks anyway.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
This would be a good place to point out that Stonetoss is not the first Nazi to defend the PRC. Long before the HK unrest started, Andrew Anglin wrote an article praising Xi Jinping.

https://archive.li/Jmh0p

Given Stonetoss probably read the Daily Stormer it seems likely he either got his views on the issue from Anglin or agreed with him already. Fascist-communist cooperation isn't that surprising given the existence of the third position, but what amuses me about this is that Stonetoss used to claim to be some kind of anarcho-capitalist. He's gone through a similar transformation to Stefan Molyneux in that he realised anarcho-capitalism was never very popular and switched to fascism to pursue a larger audience.

Fans calling people "bugmen" in these circumstances is hilarious; a former anarcho-capitalist's fans denounce their enemies for being obsessed with consumerism, in a manner comparable to Julius Evola, who hated capitalism.
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Ancap-libertarianism shift to "fascism" comes from the writings of Hans Herman Hoppe who arguea for the physical removal of dissidents for the sole purpose of maintaining a ancap/libertarianist state/space from those who would want it overthrown and shift into a full-fledged state. Stefan isn't too much into this and is a "high-iq civnat" who wants no immigration from low-iq countries. Hopefully he heads into full white nationalism when the China problem in Canada grows.
 
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