💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

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Null said:
I think the inverse is more shocking, all his fans who want military intervention in hong kong to support democracy. wtf.
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Honestly probably people that got wrapped up in the "fuck corporate censorship" backlash with Blizzard and the NBA and didn't really look into anything else.
 
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Our options are only either drag queens or communism...

I don't know if he's trolling or serious at this point.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
There is a few, erm, alt-rights? nazis? white supremacists? /pol/sters? I don't know anymore... who believe that these protests are paid and supported by GLOBALISTS™ in order to make China woke and PC.

So, he might be referencing that, I don't really know.
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I don't agree, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. We live in some weird fucking times. I have read a few blurbs that posited that some of the more violent ones could be undercover government agents. I lean more towards that than anything.
 
Sammich said:
I don't agree, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. We live in some weird fucking times. I have read a few blurbs that posited that some of the more violent ones could be undercover government agents. I lean more towards that than anything.
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I get what you and him are saying, but I think we're gonna end up very paranoid if we simply dismiss people's agency and their own sense of what freedom should be.

It's the same with Venezuela: apparently, people are incapable of revolting against an unjust, authoritarian government without Americans first tell them so. A lot of leftists say this, in the same way now some people who oppose the left say it has other hiden purposes.

Just because some powers are behind the moves, doesn't mean the people who are willing participants are in the wrong. Both can coexist in the same narrative. People, governments, and corporations want to take advantage of whatever disaster happens after the people from Venezuela or China get fed up and remove their governments.
 
Sammich said:
I don't agree, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. We live in some weird fucking times. I have read a few blurbs that posited that some of the more violent ones could be undercover government agents. I lean more towards that than anything.
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Billionaires like Soros and the Koch brothers pay for bullshit protests all over the world. Nothing new at all.
 
Sammich said:
I don't agree, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. We live in some weird fucking times. I have read a few blurbs that posited that some of the more violent ones could be undercover government agents. I lean more towards that than anything.
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Anyone who follows the news and isn't delibrately blindly following their ridiculous MuH frReedoM narrative has seen the pictures of the 'leaders' of the HK protests taking orders from their CIA bosses. Obviously, Stonetoss has as well.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
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Our options are only either drag queens or communism...

I don't know if he's trolling or serious at this point.
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These are basically your options at this point. Everything under ZOG control is getting the diversity dildo. China is basically the only force strong enough to stand against the ZOG world order (Russia can at least defend itself thanks to the nukes, but has little means of pushing influence). It's not what you'd ideally choose, but it's what exists.
 
Supporting literal communists to own the libs. LMAO. Amusing to think this guy claimed to be some kind of anarcho-capitalist originally. Not really surprising though given he's basically a Nazi, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is a strong precedent.
 
Jack Awful said:
There was a lot of controversy when this thread was made, but this move validates its existence.
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I used to say that stone has good potential and he might develop into a cow soon but I see now it will take much more time. Everyone wants to go oh poor hong kong but is what "the west" represents now any better? Besides everything you hate and dislike about china is coming to the "the west". Social media will eventually create a social credit score and it's worth remembering that China is completely fine with the farms but Australia and NZ tried to block the site. Soon China may be a more free place to live in than "the west".
 
Tasty Tatty said:
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Our options are only either drag queens or communism...

I don't know if he's trolling or serious at this point.
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If you really think that China as stands today is communist you may be somewhat retarded yourself.
This isn't even 'not real socialism' bullshit, China doesn't identify as marxist since 1983.

Deng Xiaoping Theory - Wikipedia

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You alt-right kiddies would be surprised on how much stuff you agree with Chinks, such as the removal of muslims and dark-skinned races in mainland China, social traditionalism and a strong army, StoneToss seems somewhat aware of that, points in his favor.

But yeah, your what Fox News says is clearly more important than facts.
 
Coke Pope said:
If you really think that China as stands today is communist you may be somewhat exceptional yourself.
This isn't even 'not real socialism' bullshit, China doesn't identify as marxist since 1983.
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This is a take as bad as the ones saying Antifa isn't fascist because they have the "anti" before the "fascist".
 
Tasty Tatty said:
This is a take as bad as the ones saying Antifa isn't fascist because they have the "anti" before the "fascist".
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The Chinese economy is fully capitalist with state oversight of some industries and no oversight of others. You're truly an exceptional man.
 
Shaka Brah said:
The Chinese economy is fully capitalist with state oversight of some industries and no oversight of others. You're truly an exceptional man.
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This is a new one. People are so used eto communism failing so bad that they can't recognize it when it actually happens. LMAO.

China is communist. They've found a way to make changes so it can "work" and their economy doesn't collapse, but it is communist. It's even more dangerous because they've managed to find a way to not bankrup the country this time. That's impressive and scary. Even awful ideologies escape.

Most people make the mistake of assuming that communism is an economical definition alone. It's not, that's Socialism. Communism is a combination of not only control of the economy but also the society. They are working to make it to its final state, which could or could not happen. But it's getting there: they already control the lives of every single citizen, dissidence isn't allowed. People who have tried to make business in China will tell you how hard it is to do so. Everything is strictly controlled by the government. Those who disagree, have to keep it silent otherwise, their lives will be ruined. The government tries to keep them "happy" so they won't stand against them, but that can't work for so long.

And of course, the main indication of a communist society is the elimination of any variation: the ongoing annihilation of Christians and Muslims is a way to get rid of different opinions that won't adjust to the established norm.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
This is a new one. People are so used eto communism failing so bad that they can't recognize it when it actually happens. LMAO.

China is communist. They've found a way to make changes so it can "work" and their economy doesn't collapse, but it is communist. It's even more dangerous because they've managed to find a way to not bankrup the country this time. That's impressive and scary. Even awful ideologies escape.

Most people make the mistake of assuming that communism is an economical definition alone. It's not, that's Socialism. Communism is a combination of not only control of the economy but also the society. They are working to make it to its final state, which could or could not happen. But it's getting there: they already control the lives of every single citizen, dissidence isn't allowed. People who have tried to make business in China will tell you how hard it is to do so. Everything is strictly controlled by the government. Those who disagree, have to keep it silent otherwise, their lives will be ruined. The government tries to keep them "happy" so they won't stand against them, but that can't work for so long.

And of course, the main indication of a communist society is the elimination of any variation: the ongoing annihilation of Christians and Muslims is a way to get rid of different opinions that won't adjust to the established norm.
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Marxism minus economic and social theory is just off-brand totalitarianism. The Chinese don't actually believe or practice Marxist societal organization like you think they do. They have a massive (and growing) middle and elite class with major social and material privileges over the proletariat. Their society is hyper-materialistic, almost more so than ours when it comes to goods and the market economy.
 
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