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Emily had taken the antidepressant Citalopram since she was 17, before sex even entered the equation for her. After five years, she’d had enough.

Like about 65 per cent of people who take selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs — some researchers believe the number is even higher — Emily experienced the side-effect of low libido.

But for a while that seemed worth it for relief from her moderate depression. She took the small pinkish pill each day, and life seemed to get a bit better.

Then at 23 in 2019, Emily told her doctor the sexual dysfunction was depriving her of connection and confidence in her life. Her depression had not improved enough to justify the side-effects, she said, and she would focus on managing it with lifestyle changes and talk therapy.

But within weeks of stopping her daily dose, Emily, a university student on Vancouver Island, woke up to a much worse outcome than she had been aware was even possible. Her genitals were completely numb.

“There was like a vitality that was gone in my body,” said Emily, whose name has been changed to protect her privacy. “My energy source had been cut off, there was no erotic sensation anywhere... my clitoris was like a knuckle.”

She panicked and booked a doctor’s appointment. But the doctor dismissed her concerns as psychological and told her the symptoms would go away on their own. “They couldn’t do anything about it and never heard of it.”

Two years later, she is still numb.

SSRIs and SNRIs have helped millions of people with anxiety and depression since the late 1980s and are often considered first-line drug choices for people who want medication-supported treatment.

About 8.6 per cent of Canadians — 3.3 million people — took some form of antidepressant in 2019, a number that insurance companies say has increased in the pandemic.

“Medications like antidepressants have had profoundly beneficial impacts on people’s lives. No one wants them to be removed,” said Jonny Morris, CEO of the Canadian Mental Health Association in B.C. “What [patients] are calling for, and we support too, is the expressed and informed consent around meds that can have profound impacts on people’s lives.”

Emily is one of what could be thousands of Canadians suffering from post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, a rare and likely underreported potential side-effect syndrome of SSRI medications that is slowly gaining recognition from health-care providers, pharmaceutical companies and the Canadian government.

Underreporting due to shame and stigma make it difficult to estimate how many people experience post-SSRI sexual dysfunction in Canada, but conservative estimates say as many as 10,000 people — one per cent of Canada’s nearly one million SSRI users — could experience this if they discontinue use.

The federal government quietly acknowledged the rare risk of PSSD in a January report that followed freedom of information requests from Emily and other advocates, as well as reports of adverse events collected by experts at the Rxisk platform.

The report from Health Canada said it will ensure manufacturers update safety information for SSRIs and the similar serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, or SNRIs, to include the “potential risk of long-lasting (possibly weeks to years) sexual dysfunction despite discontinuation of SSRIs or SNRIs.”

It followed a similar acknowledgement two years earlier from the European Medicines Agency that “there have been reports of long-lasting sexual dysfunction where the symptoms have continued despite discontinuation of SSRIs/SNRIs.”

But eight months later, there is no update from Health Canada on what steps have been taken to implement the recommendation and warn patients of the potential risk. Two media requests from The Tyee were unanswered.

Emily and dozens of other sufferers say Canada needs to improve pharmaceutical monitoring and drug-labelling.

“I still have moderate depression, but now I have a much worse problem to face,” said Emily. “People deserve to know what they may be risking.”

PSSD is a severe form of long-lasting sexual dysfunction that can result from starting or discontinuing an SSRI or SNRI.

Symptoms can include genital numbness, like Emily experiences, weak orgasm, decreased sex drive and erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation, according to a 2017 literature review on the research to date.

The first paper about PSSD was published in 2006 and chronicled the six years a 26-year-old man in the United States had suffered PSSD after taking and stopping the SSRIs sertraline and fluoxetine, usually marketed as Prozac and Zoloft.

In a 2016 paper for the International Society of Sexual Medicine, Yakov Reisman found “there are some indications that antidepressant-emergent sexual dysfunctions... can persist indefinitely in some individuals.”

PSSD is part of the umbrella of libido effects, but “the difference is the problem keeps going,” said Dr. David Healy, a psychiatrist and professor at the McMaster University department of family medicine.

“It becomes awfully clear there’s a problem there already when you halt treatment. You have a condition, whether you stay on the medication or not, that is permanent.”

The Tyee spoke to three PSSD sufferers in Canada, and only Emily was comfortable speaking on the record.

One was prescribed the medications at 11 when she was experiencing school-related anxiety. She wishes her doctor and parents had explored other options like counselling before prescribing her an SSRI.

“Something so sacred has been taken away from me without my consent, like the ability to see a sunset,” she said. “This is an intrinsic part of being alive and with other people and connected with oneself.”

Another log truck driver in the Okanagan Valley in his mid-40s described some days of his life as a “living hell.” He has been unable to form romantic or intimate connections for years, first as a result of his depression and now due to PSSD from the drugs that were supposed to help.

Watching his friends grow up, get married and have children, he says, “feels like watching the world go by without me.”

Side-effects of SSRIs and SNRIs can vary in nature and degree, from indigestion and weight loss or gain to increased suicidal thoughts. About 65 per cent of people who take SSRIs or SNRIs report libido effects, like having a lower sex drive or not being able to orgasm while taking the medications.

That figure was only reported once manufacturers started asking specifically about libido effects for patients, who often didn’t make the link between the drugs and their changing sex drives. Before they started asking specifically in clinical trial and post-prescription surveys of patients and physicians, just five per cent reported sexual impacts.

Emily said patients need to be consulted more about the impacts SSRIs and SNRIs can have. “We need to be more proactive about asking people how they’re doing, otherwise we aren’t understanding the full impact of the drugs.”

All medications, like Citalopram, come with an information sheet called a product monograph explaining potential side-effects for physicians and pharmacists to inform patients. But often physicians don’t have them memorized and think pharmacists will go over all the possible side-effects with the patient.

When a prescription is filled, the pharmacist often assumes the doctor has already told them about the risks before prescribing, says Alan Cassels, a pharmaceutical policy expert at the UBC Therapeutics Initiative.

Adverse events reporting about prescription drugs is voluntary for physicians, who also aren’t compensated or able to bill the time they take to do so, he noted. Reporting such events is mandatory in hospital settings in Canada.

“There is a lot of room to improve sharing what we know about side-effects and investigating what we don’t,” said Cassels.

Emily said the loss of the sexual dimension of herself has had a drastic impact on her life and how she imagines her future. Once an undergraduate on Vancouver Island studying ecological rejuvenation, the onset of PSSD worsened her depression and she has contemplated suicide.

“Sexuality is an important dimension of myself and missing it just degrades every aspect of my life,” said Emily. “I’m unable to experience so much of the joy I once had in my life, let alone romantic attraction.”

Soon after her PSSD began, Emily dropped out of university and moved back in with her family on Vancouver Island for emotional and financial support. She has not been able to work due to her mental health and isn’t sure she will be able to have a full-time job or significant relationship in the future.

“I don’t even pet dogs anymore because I feel so hollow.”

Emily feels isolated, but she is not alone. After she was dismissed by her doctor, Emily began research online and came across the PSSD Reddit page, which has about 2,700 active posters at any given time.

“I realized there were others like me around the world,” Emily said. She began posting and commenting, connecting with people who are members of PSSD advocacy organizations in Germany, Italy and the United Kingdom.

Emily knew she wanted to push for change and support for herself and the likely thousands more in Canada suffering in silence.

In 2020, the Canadian PSSD Society was born from the hard work of Emily and a number of other patients who were able to connect online. Emily still doesn’t know everyone’s real name, as some don’t want to risk being identified.

In the last 18 months they’ve filed many FOI requests to access data that manufacturers have provided to Health Canada when applying for drug approval, and petitioned the House of Commons to recognize PSSD and fund further research.

They want Health Canada to act swiftly to update side-effect warnings on SSRI and SNRI products, fund physician and psychiatrist education on the range of possible adverse outcomes and require more rigorous and transparent adverse event and side-effect reporting from pharmaceutical companies wanting to sell their products in Canada.

The group hopes that with wider recognition PSSD can become a reason for people suffering to receive disability and unemployment assistance if needed.

They’re also working with Caroline Pukall at the Queen’s University Sexual Health Research Lab to conduct a survey of PSSD sufferers to better understand its prevalence and impacts on Canadians.

Little is known about what may increase one’s risk of developing PSSD, and while some patients have recovered after several years, there is currently no treatment, Pukall said.

“The key is really validating people’s experiences and being able to offer them some kind of context to understand what they are going through,” said Pukall, an associate professor of psychology at Queen’s. “Because right now, there really isn’t one.”

CMHA’s Morris said it’s a clear example of how much the Canadian mental health system relies on advocacy from patients to take adverse events seriously.

“If we had systems of care that worked, and were closer to parity with physical health, maybe systems would be more proactive in identifying and taking these risks seriously,” said Morris. “It shouldn’t only be advocacy that triggers the medical community... to take this seriously.”

Healy noted it is difficult to know how rare the condition is because manufacturers are not yet required to report on it, while a doctor will likely see a single case in their whole career.

And our increasing acceptance of medications as the solutions to all health problems, Healy says, has made many dismissive of side-effects.

Healy, who specializes in pharmacology and founded Rxisk, has become one of the leading experts on PSSD through his work examining the history and rare side-effects of antidepressants.

It is hard to predict or look for all potential side-effects of a drug based on a small clinical trial over a short period of time, Healy said, but the onus has been placed on patients to convince health-care providers of their serious effects.

Healy is a firm advocate for the benefits that antidepressants bring millions of patients, and he doesn’t align with anti-pharmaceutical movements.

But he’s worried that without expanded access to clinical trial data and better monitoring and treatment of PSSD and other rare side-effects, critical research is “up against a religious belief system” that sees prescription medications as sacraments rather than flawed solutions.

Cassels agrees. Writing a prescription, he says, satisfies both parties: it’s quick and doctors feel as though they helped someone, and patients feels as though they were heard and now have a solution.

But given that “every medication with an effect has a side-effect,” Cassels says medicine needs to get better at exploring non-pharmaceutical options when appropriate to mitigate the risk of side-effects.

If knowledge of side-effects and risks has a chilling effect on SSRI uptake, or other prescriptions for that matter, Cassels says “so be it.” “I think most people would want to know a drug could cause serious sexual dysfunction before they take it,” he said.

But making these shifts in mindset and policy will require government to legislate reporting standards and greater transparency from pharmaceutical companies. “They’re only going to do it if they’re forced to do it,” Cassels noted. “It’s in their interest not to focus on adverse risks more than they have to.”

Building that body of knowledge of PSSD and evidence of its effects will not just help find potential solutions and risk factors for PSSD, but help current sufferers have their pain believed.

Yassie Pirani said many patients’ isolation and suffering are compounded when they’re not believed by health-care providers.

“There is a rupture in trust when they experience anything from ridicule to dismissal,” said Pirani, a Vancouver-based registered counsellor who specializes in supporting people with PSSD and other sexual traumas.

Pirani said she can’t think of a more stigmatized condition, because it comes at the intersection of mental health and sexuality, two aspects of health that are already often undervalued.

“And folks often get misdiagnosed. It’s actually much easier for them to get diagnosed with delusional disorder rather than obtaining a diagnosis for PSSD.”

Morris said increasing the number of supports available beyond medications, like counselling, stable housing and employment, will ensure drugs are used only when needed and their potential harms minimized.

But for the moment, it can feel like the Canadian PSSD Society is chipping away at a brick wall, Emily said. The group was able to present to the BC Psychological Association earlier this year, but it wasn’t received with much warmth. Calls and emails to provincial and federal ministers of health have gone unanswered.

The Tyee reached out to Health Canada and did not hear back by press time.

Now 25, Emily spends a lot of her days sleeping, fatigued from the mental and physical weight of her diagnosis and the loneliness it has brought.

Though she was never religious before, the Bible has brought comfort with the idea that faith flourishes “if you are able to graft your own happiness onto a bigger tree,” in Emily’s words.

“In my personal life that tree has become God, and in the rest of my life, it’s activism,” she said.

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A curious thought: how many of the incel community has been on SSRIs since their teens?
 
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Don't drink the water. All part of the plan.
 
“In my personal life that tree has become God, and in the rest of my life, it’s activism,” she said.

sounds like the meds did their job well, turned her into a mindless drone with no aspirations or desires of her own, living only to carry out the will of her masters.
 
Deep Thought: This is (just one of the reasons) why the younger generations aren't having as much sex as the older generation.
 
SSRIs do cause sexual dysfunction. You know what else causes sexual dysfunction? Depression.

Her symptoms are completely psychosomatic. She's claiming that her entire genital region is completely numb and have been for two years. That's simply not possible without major nerve damage, and there is no recorded case of SSRI cessation causing nerve damage, which is saying something because SSRIs are massively over-prescribed. If it was a thing, we'd have seen hundreds of thousands, potentially millions, of cases of it by now, even if it was extremely rare.

Depressed people are stopping their meds, becoming depressed again, and then being surprised that untreated depression is acting like untreated depression. That's all.
 
Oingo Bongo saw the writing on the wall.

"If they don't turn you into a junkie or a zombie on the street
If they don't turn you into a yo-cat or a grinning Jesus freak
If they don't take away your brains or turn your body inside out
If they don't take away your passion with a color TV set
They'll take away your heart and soul"
 
sounds like the meds did their job well, turned her into a mindless drone with no aspirations or desires of her own, living only to carry out the will of her masters.
Oingo Bongo saw the writing on the wall.

"If they don't turn you into a junkie or a zombie on the street
If they don't turn you into a yo-cat or a grinning Jesus freak
If they don't take away your brains or turn your body inside out
If they don't take away your passion with a color TV set
They'll take away your heart and soul"
So you're saying we should be off our meds and online?
 
I have been on multiple anti-depressants and anti-psychotics all my life and my libido is perfectly fine.
In-fact, I think it's even higher than normal as I'm not wallowing in my own sadness or schizophrenic delusions.
 
Many people taking antidepressants do not work on their issues and instead rely on the medication to treat the symptoms. The meds end up delaying addressing the personal issues until the depression is so bad they cannot function in their 20's. These aren't people born with a chemical imbalance. They are people who had negative influences and bad parenting. Don't tell them that, though.
 
Many people taking antidepressants do not work on their issues and instead rely on the medication to treat the symptoms. The meds end up delaying addressing the personal issues until the depression is so bad they cannot function in their 20's. These aren't people born with a chemical imbalance. They are people who had negative influences and bad parenting. Don't tell them that, though.
It's a self-defeating cycle, really.

Taking the meds and not making any positive changes to your lifestyle are a big factor. A lot of headcases don't start an exercise routine or change their diet or work on getting enough sleep, they just continue their behaviors and rely on the meds to do all the work.

See Noah Antwiler's thread here.
 
They want Health Canada to act swiftly to update side-effect warnings on SSRI and SNRI products, fund physician and psychiatrist education on the range of possible adverse outcomes and require more rigorous and transparent adverse event and side-effect reporting from pharmaceutical companies wanting to sell their products in Canada.

Ok, but why bother? If they tacked on another side effect to the list, it wouldn't have changed your decision to take the drugs at 17. People who are willing to take SSRI's on a long term basis aren't held back by the already known serious side effects. This will only change for people who think, "I'd rather enjoy sex than cure my serious depression", which is its own weird mix of mental problems already.

I feel bad for the people affected, but all this advocacy isn't even trying to fix anything. At best, it might let someone know what's going on if they recognize the symptoms after a while.

The group hopes that with wider recognition PSSD can become a reason for people suffering to receive disability and unemployment assistance if needed.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it is.
 
Cognitive Therapy is well know to have similar results as meds. Exercise and healthy diet as well.
 
Many people taking antidepressants do not work on their issues and instead rely on the medication to treat the symptoms. The meds end up delaying addressing the personal issues until the depression is so bad they cannot function in their 20's. These aren't people born with a chemical imbalance. They are people who had negative influences and bad parenting. Don't tell them that, though.

It's a self-defeating cycle, really.

Taking the meds and not making any positive changes to your lifestyle are a big factor. A lot of headcases don't start an exercise routine or change their diet or work on getting enough sleep, they just continue their behaviors and rely on the meds to do all the work.

See Noah Antwiler's thread here.
exactly. and i'd go even further and say that while the physiological approach (do exercise, fix your diet, get enough sleep, etc) is certainly better than meds, it's still not a real answer.

as i see it, major depression is usually not the result of random imbalances in someones brain chemistry that arise out of thin air, but the result of having a thoroughly fucked up life with little hope for a better future. essentially, to really cure the depression, you'd have to make the persons life liveable again, but that's usually a herculean task and not something a doctor, therapist, psychiatrist or social worker can achieve.
 
Lol I remember when I was a minor forced to take this stuff, and the doctor literally brought up sexual dysfunction, and then said "but you don't need to worry about though" so nonchalantly. I felt so powerless and uncomfortable. Shit sucked.
 
I mean, its one of the most well known side-effects of SSRIs and SNRIs. PSSD can happen for other reasons, but its not even well understood why. The problem is that, no, exercise and CBT or DBT are not a replacement for them. I've had sexual side effects from every anti-depressant I've ever taken. And very different ones as well. The most miserable ones were on Lexapro. Like that shit was fucking awful. But again, there are all sorts of options. There's also anti-depressants that cause priapism (Trazadone). There's a massive amount of them out there, and you have to constantly move between meds which work and don't. You can't go, "Well, I don't feel that shitty so its fine". You have to constantly switch and duck and jive and test medications because of the differences in physiology. You have to constantly try. And if a psychiatrist is not willing to go on that journey with you, that's not a shrink you want to be seeing. It takes an immense amount of time and effort to find a combination that works for you. And I did.

But uh-oh, I'm fucking poor, so my insurance decided to strip me off of my main medication because it was too expensive and the older shit was just as good. Wrong. I had barely any side effects with my previous meds, and it took fucking forever to even find one that worked comparably. And when I did, it had worse sexual side effects, side effects and noticeable physiological changes and didn't work as well. So even if you eventually find a good combination, insurance will fuck you. Not all anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds are created equal, and you need to be on a constant hunt. The way our system works now is completely antithetical to the way we understand the human body and medicine. Anti-depressants aren't a 1:1 solution like anti-biotics. You have to be fluid and flexible. Our system is anything but. The system for medication now was built for a time when pharmacologic methods and prescriptions were largely thought of as individually static. Differential diagnosis for PSSD is extremely fucked. Depression can cause anhedonia as well as the loss of libido as we age. As we don't even know the cause of PSSD, we don't know where to look or what to look for. Like fuck, PSSD is just a symptom of reliance on this extremely old model of drugs and prescribing. Why do we still prescribe Prozac? Its cheap. That simple. Doesn't matter if its been completely outpaced by modern SSRIs, SNRIs and atypical anti-depressants. And that's a big problem.

This is why insurance is incredibly fucking annoying to switch from one pill or to another or insists that generics are identical (they aren't always). Its a system that is built in the past, when more and more pharmacological methods for basically a lot of things are being found to be extremely individualized. Mental illness is a highly individualized disease and medicating it has to be highly flexible. Our system for prescribing and treatment is notoriously inflexible. Nobody even remembers why people have to have insurance from employers. It was from a literally different era where you could go to college for $500 a semester, get a $50k job from a high school diploma and buy a house for $20k. It was from when employers used insurance as a way to attract employees. That's why they were called 'benefits'. As in, benefits to the job. Now its just something that's tacked on, the government shoving the medical costs onto employers in an era when pharmacology and new treatments were just starting to become discovered. Medical costs soared because R&D progressively got more and more expensive, and very little regulating was done on insurance agencies. What was done were band-aid methods and now middle managers with a bachelor's degree in accounting can dictate what your doctor or pharmacist prescribe to you. Its an archaic system that is substantially different from how we understand medications and medicating today, and prescribers have no choice but to live inside of that framework. You're probably relying on an actuary calculating the cost-benefit without understanding basically anything about medicine. They won't pay for a $20 test to screen for oral cancer, but will pay $500k for oral cancer treatment because some absolutely inhuman fucking cunt decided that the small amount of people who get oral cancer is worth cutting off the massive amount of people who get the preventative test. So yes, these cunts have sentenced people to pain and suffering and have gotten rewarded for cutting down margins and preventative treatments all to enrich themselves. And since these are publicly traded companies, they're not doing anything for you. They're doing it for the shareholders. And short term gains. Its why it doesn't matter if the reverse will save them $4 million in 5 years but sacrificing the test will get them $4 million in 2 years. Its all about numbers.

You think they give a fuck about actual medicine? Don't make me laugh. And if they're willing to throw people to the wolves for a $20 oral screening test, just think about how much they're fucking you with mental health and everything else.
exactly. and i'd go even further and say that while the physiological approach (do exercise, fix your diet, get enough sleep, etc) is certainly better than meds, it's still not a real answer.

as i see it, major depression is usually not the result of random imbalances in someones brain chemistry that arise out of thin air, but the result of having a thoroughly fucked up life with little hope for a better future. essentially, to really cure the depression, you'd have to make the persons life liveable again, but that's usually a herculean task and not something a doctor, therapist, psychiatrist or social worker can achieve.
The 'chemical imbalance' hypothesis of mental illness is no longer regarded as correct. SSRIs immediately cause an increase in serotonin, but take weeks to months to start working fully and nobody really has any answer as to why. The causes for depression and mental illness in general are extremely poorly understood. The problem is that the spectrum of what we are seeing in depression and anxiety is probably a lot larger than we currently realize. Our knowledge about the brain and its functions are extremely limited and unlike a neurodegenerative illness, where we can record and track brain changes and slowly pin down a spectrum of illnesses due to autopsy and research, there are very few, if any, widely regarded biomarkers to mental illness, other than perhaps schizophrenia.

As per usual, these articles draw out people with 'lol anti-depressants'. Its the system, the inflexibility of it, the way we do modern medicine that fucks you. You can't give a patient multiple medicines to try without samples, because insurance will never cover you. You can't go for newer medications over older ones because they won't be covered. You have to rely on older SSRIs while you never hear about the new ones because they're incredibly expensive and insurance doesn't want to pay. Pharmacology companies are also bound by the way insurance treats drugs and everything we develop is into that ruleset. When its becoming very obviously clear that's not the way bodies or minds actually work.

Believe me, we have a lot of newer alternatives to these anti-depressants you may have never heard of. But they're like $600-700+ for a month's supply. And mainly, they have lower side effects than old ones. But lower side effects? Who gives a shit. It still works, doesn't it? Here, take this old shit. If 20% of you develop permeant sexual side effects, not our problem. Bob in accounting who doesn't have a degree in medicine and doesn't know his ass from aspirin told us it'd save us $35 dollars if we gave you this shitty brand from China with lead in it than the $70 one from Canada. Fuck off and die pleb.
 
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Well that's depressing (no pun intended). The worst part is that some doctors don't bother expalining the side effects to their patients befor handing them the meds, because they're shitty professionals.
 
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