Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

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Years ago I followed EVE Online politics and drama, and I remember a blog post talking about why some in-game alliances succeeded and some collapsed the moment somebody so much as poked them. The blog post was written by a goon.

He brought up various points mostly related to the fact that EVE Online was, at the end of the day, a goddamn video game (well, spreadsheet simulator pretending to be a video game, but I digress) and players needed to have fun or else they would never log on. He had choice words for alliances that routinely pinged every member with orders like "If you don't set your alarm clock for 2:55 AM on a Tuesday so you can be ready for our mandatory shoot-at-the-stationary-object operation then you might as well pack your shit up right now because you're not welcome here anymore."

One point I found very interesting, though, was that alliances that were run by councils, committees, boards of directors and other such autism had far worse effectiveness and longevity than alliances run by a single all-powerful dictator. Leadership-by-consensus models were extremely common in EVE for reasons I won't get into, and they universally sucked because every single person involved was, at the end of the day, a pissant playing pretend and wanted everything to be done my way or else. The result was that no decisions were ever made, and when they did get made, they were compromises that absolutely nobody was happy about. It also meant that these alliances suffered from rampant intel leaks, infighting, and drama; at one point the most powerful alliance in the game vanished overnight because one of the leaders sabotaged the others so spectacularly that an official comic book was published about the incident. The comic book sucked; don't bother looking for it.

Basically, organizations in EVE that were run by committees would be trapped in their own skin, hemming and hawing and jerking each other off for weeks, while an alliance dictator could (and would) literally just post "I'm declaring war on our neighbors because they're faggots and if you like them, you're a faggot too" and within minutes the killsquads would be forming. There were weaknesses in the leadership model, but it was effective in EVE because in the end, every EVE player was an anonymous jerk who wanted to have fun online.

Something Awful used to be a bunch of anonymous assholes run by a dictator, but SA has a tradition of fuckups so big as to defy the laws of reality, and accordingly, SA somehow managed to fucking decapitate itself like that one suicidal dude who rigged a chainsaw to a bunch of pulleys in his garage. Now, SA's leadership is by committee, and it can never be anything but by committee, because there need to be female voices and trans voices and black voices and pedophile voices and who the fuck knows what else. The result is that SA's leadership is a Rat King held together by each other's feces, endlessly writhing and squealing and snapping at anyone who points and laughs at their wretchedness. Meanwhile, every goon who was on the forums to have some fun online has jumped ship, and all that's left is a shrinking population of "digital natives" whose favorite pastime is eating each other alive.
I read a book about John Winthrop once, the tl;dr was that he felt humans are living the best life when they live in a small enough community that their leaders are held to some laws, but can still BTFO somebody if they really need to. I think it still holds up.
 
I read a book about John Winthrop once, the tl;dr was that he felt humans are living the best life when they live in a small enough community that their leaders are held to some laws, but can still BTFO somebody if they really need to. I think it still holds up.
I mean, if you're think you're going to be the leader, that's probably true. If you're a regular Joe that doesn't want someone to have the power to disappear you in the middle of the night you feel differently.
 
Humans live the best life under an ethical communist government with checks and balances that has a moral commitment to ensuring everybody has the basic human necessities they need.
 
I read a book about John Winthrop once, the tl;dr was that he felt humans are living the best life when they live in a small enough community that their leaders are held to some laws, but can still BTFO somebody if they really need to. I think it still holds up.

The tl;dr on that is that no monopoly is good on a long scale. Modern complex Governments are by their nature monopolies on power in the areas they claim sovereignty over.

The ability to GTFO and leave for another place that is running things competently pressures local governments to be competent or lose the people and areas they control to governments that do run competently.


The Black Death lead to huge improvements for the majority of Europeans (aka the poors & non-nobility); previous to the black death, there were too many people and not enough land. If you tried to escape your asshole feudal lord, the next feudal lord had incentive to send you right the fuck back, because he had enough slaves serfs.

Post black death there weren't enough people to work all the land. So now if your lord was a fucking dicksbrot set, you could leave for to another noble's lands, and he's inclined to tell the lord you escaped from to go fuck himself if he tries to reclaim you. Nobles now had to compete for peasants, and they did that by offering better rights and lower taxes than the next guy.

(Contrast this with the Russian system where land was never an issue but infrastructure was, and the local lords maintained a cartel, agreeing to return all peasants to their owners.)
 
Single leader goverment tends to fall apart when it comes time to transfer power, removal from office or your a bad leader, any good leader has both advisors and the ability to delegate authority and control, but overall they're far more unstable IRL because you or your heir might get stabbed by your subordinates-which then turns the situation into a complete shit show. Democracies are more cumbersome but stable and genrally more humaine, especially when the first amoung equals knows how to work the system to get things done.
Online games and forums don't really have to deal with a lot of that so a overall leader becomes more viable and advantagous for overall policy, admin and tone.

It is however worth noting that Lowtax does have overall control of the forums so highlights the potential flaws quite well.

-He's disinterested in the administration of the forums so fails to monitor or shape it's culture.
-He's a bad judge of character so delegates to fucks ups like koalasmarch and factsareusless.
-He's petulant, mercurial so is ban happy but also incredably inconsistant.
-most importantly he genuinly doesnt want to control the forums but is bound to it by neccesity, so he will never do a good job.

The "council" leadership style is particulary undermined because they can't even claim to have authority so it's an endless bought of political infighting and petty fiefdoms. The reason why the mods suck there so bad is because no normal person would even be chosen or want the job.
 
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The "council" leadership style is particulary undermined because they can't even claim to have authority so it's an endless bought of political infighting and petty fiefdoms. The reason why the mods suck there so bad is because no normal person would even be chosen or want the job.
Some regular people have wanted the jobs in the past but every time, they chose either complete bootlickers and/or people who's main virtue is not being a cis-het white male.
 
Single leader goverment tends to fall apart when it comes time to transfer power, removal from office or your a bad leader, any good leader has both advisors and the ability to delegate authority and control, but overall they're far more unstable IRL because you or your heir might get stabbed by your subordinates-which then turns the situation into a complete shity. Democracies are more cumbersome but stable and genrally more humaine, especially when the first amoung equals knows how to work the system to get things done.
Online games and forums don't really have to deal with a lot of that so a overall leader becomes more viable and advantagous for overall policy, admin and tone.

It is however worth noting that Lowtax does have overall control of the forums so highlights the potential flaws quite well.

-He's disinterested in the administration of the forums so fails to monitor or shape it's culture.
-He's a bad judge of character so delegates to fucks ups like koalasmarch and factsareusless.
-He's petulant, mercurial so is ban happy but also incredably inconsistant.
-most importantly he genuinly doesnt want to control the forums but is bound to it by neccesity, so he will never do a good job.

The "council" leadership style is particulary undermined because they can't even claim to have authority so it's an endless bought of political infighting and petty fiefdoms. The reason why the mods suck there so bad is because no normal person would even be chosen or want the job.

The other problem with handover of power in Autocracy is that it either the ruler appoints their successor - this actually sometimes goes well, but often results in issues unless the ruler has been preparing for this for a while; the tl;dr is that if you trust your son enough to softly transition power before its time, it means you trust him to not murder your, and that's usually a sign of stability both politically and environmentally. But this assumes a competent leader who is able to inspire others, so lets assume that doesnt' apply to lowtax.

The other way is that the leader calls a council of advisors and power-holders to help select his successor. The problem with this model is that in short order the council never ends up selecting the best leader, they select the leader they think that they can control. Early Islam had a hilarious instance of this where they elected a dude who was really fucking ancient as the 2nd or 3rd caliph, thinking he'd croak in a couple years and they could come back to the selection council after consolidating support, but the bastard ended up living to be like fucking 90.
 
Single leader goverment tends to fall apart when it comes time to transfer power, removal from office or your a bad leader, any good leader has both advisors and the ability to delegate authority and control, but overall they're far more unstable IRL because you or your heir might get stabbed by your subordinates-which then turns the situation into a complete shit show.

Autocrats are almost invariably narcissistic and even outright evil. You get the occasional exception like Joseph II but it's nearly random and even leaders who look good going in go full batshit once their power is absolute. As such, they literally don't care if everything falls apart when they die or get deposed because shit without them in charge is of absolute indifference to them.
 
Autocrats are almost invariably narcissistic and even outright evil. You get the occasional exception like Joseph II but it's nearly random and even leaders who look good going in go full batshit once their power is absolute. As such, they literally don't care if everything falls apart when they die or get deposed because shit without them in charge is of absolute indifference to them.
Yep, this is why George Washington spent his entire term telling Congress to limit his powers or he would kick them in the taint
 
Yep, this is why George Washington spent his entire term telling Congress to limit his powers or he would kick them in the taint

This is why we still treat Washington as a nearly godlike figure. He deserves it. He could have been a king. Instead he chose to be Washington.
 
Humans live the best life under an ethical communist government with checks and balances that has a moral commitment to ensuring everybody has the basic human necessities they need.

By definition this cannot happen. Communism doesn't have a state and thus no government. Socialism on the other hand is dictatorship of the proletariat and thus cannot be ethical.
 
Ill be honest, this chick fleecing Rich for marketing bucks and having him smile the whole time about it is a bigger troll than us or the troons could ever pull off. All the respect to her.
 
I'm always slightly disapointed when I hear someone is into "findom" and it turns out that doesn't mean they have a fish fetish. That would just be so much more interesting.
 
This is why we still treat Washington as a nearly godlike figure. He deserves it. He could have been a king. Instead he chose to be Washington.
Washington is the anti-Lincoln, and this statement pisses so many people off that I feel like it's not in the realm of subjectivism to make
 
It doesnt have the grotesque spectacle of some fetish's or the logical relatability of other I cannot think of anything which turns me on less than Findom without breaking moral codes.

How is findom even a fucking thing? It makes no sense. I wouldn't mind if a bitch sucked my dick and then paid me for the privilege but I wouldn't be getting off from that itself. It's even worse than just being a cuck.

Also someone got banned for posting this which means it's true.

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